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TheHumanTarget
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Assume that I have $400,000 worth of investments, and am looking to cash all of it in at once. What would the initial tax fee be, and what would the end of year tax rate be?
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I don't know, but if you're looking for a charitable investment, look no further. [Wink]
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Primal Curve
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I'm not a tax expert. I believe there are better people out there who can answer that.

From an investment perspective, my only response is:

WHY?!

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TheHumanTarget
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Sometimes bad decisions are the only decisions.
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Primal Curve
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That's a weak answer.
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TheHumanTarget
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Seeing as how you have no insight into my situation, I'd have to say that your opinion is fairly irrelevant.
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It totally depends on what the investments are, how long you've owned them, and how you acquired them. Your question is, unfortunately, unanswerable as posed.
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TheHumanTarget
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Thanks Dags. I'll come back with more information later.
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What Dag said.

And what Eaquae Legit said too [Smile]

-Bok

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Invest it all on canned food and shotguns.

Actually, I have no idea. I've never had that much at one time.

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He's going to buy a castle, I just know it.

--Enigmatic

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Diversify. Bury half in mayonnaise jars in your backyard, and take the other half down to the dog track and bet on the one that does his business on the way to the gate.
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Primal Curve
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quote:
Originally posted by TheHumanTarget:
Seeing as how you have no insight into my situation,

Exactly why your answer is weak.
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ElJay
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Primal, don't be a jerk this time, please.
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TheHumanTarget
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ElJay, don't worry about PC. Some people just aren't worth the expended effort it would take to change them.
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Sorry I don't have any useful advice for you, THT. Good luck. And the best to your family.
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If you have that much money to be cashed out, the only sensible approach is to seek the advice of an accountant.
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fugu's entirely right. If things are dire enough that you need to cash in a nest egg that large, you want to talk to a professional ASAP.
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Fugu's right, cashing out that much in investments requires professional advice to minimize taxes. And Dag's right more info is required to answer the question. But I wouldn't provide more info than you already have on a public forum. Boon might (I don't want to speak for her) provide you with some tax advice. But get it via email! It's not jatraqueros you should worry about (we're all as honest as the day is long [Roll Eyes] ) but the rest of the internet getting into your business.

Some links to get you started: How to Be Your Own Financial Planner--LA Times article
Finding financial help

http://www.learnthat.com/finance/learn-166-hiring_tax_professional.htm

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Primal Curve
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quote:
Originally posted by TheHumanTarget:
ElJay, don't worry about PC. Some people just aren't worth the expended effort it would take to change them.

<snickers>
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Morbo
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Ten Husbands

A young man married a beautiful woman who had previously divorced ten husbands.

On their wedding night, she told her new husband, "Please be gentle, I'm still a virgin".

"What?" said the puzzled groom. "How can that be if you've been married ten times?!"

"Well, husband #1 was a Sales Representative; he kept telling me how great it's going to be.

Husband #2 was in Software Services; he was never really sure how it was supposed to function, but he said he'd look into it and get back to me.

Husband #3 was from Field Services; he said everything checked out diagnostically but he just couldn't get the system up.

Husband #4 was in Telemarketing; even though he knew he had the order, he didn't know when he would be able to deliver.

Husband #5 was an Engineer; he understood the basic process but wanted three years to research, implement, and design a new state-of-the-art method.

Husband #6 was from Finance and Administration; he thought he knew how, but he wasn't sure whether it was his job or not.

Husband #7 was in Marketing; although he had a product, he was never sure how to position it.

Husband #8 was a psychiatrist; all he ever did was talk about it.

Husband #9 was a gynaecologist; all he did was look at it.

Husband #10 was a stamp collector; all he ever did was.. .. God I miss him!

But now that I've married you, I'm so excited!"

"Good!" said the husband, "but why?"

"You're an IRS agent...... This time I KNOW I'm gonna get screwed!"

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You would be better off to leave that much money in whatever investment it represents and borrow what you might need against it, if they are the result of Capital Gains you are going to get clobbered twice.

BC

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quote:
Originally posted by Bean Counter:
You would be better off to leave that much money in whatever investment it represents and borrow what you might need against it, if they are the result of Capital Gains you are going to get clobbered twice.

BC

Why do you feel qualified to speak about this at all? What degrees do you have in this field? What type of experience?


It is bad enough when you post about things teat don't matter and are ignorant about them. This is something that matters, and you may very well be the last person on Earth who they should listen to.


Last I checked grunts weren't tax officers, at least not most of them. Stick to polishing boots.

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King of Men
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Hey, you ask for investment advice on a free forum, you deserve what you get. But quite apart from that, BC's advice seems to be at least an option to be looked at. It could be impossible for some reason, or it might turn out to be more expensive than cashing it out, but I don't see where it should be dismissed out of hand.
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Teh Intarweb Forums are not the place to get this sort of information. Get yourself a financial consultant.
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fugu13
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In many situations BC would be right. We don't have enough information here, though.
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I have an accountant and am waiting for information from him. It was more the nature of my impatience that led me to ask the question here. Thanks for the good (and the bad) advice.
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quote:
Sometimes bad decisions are the only decisions.
Only when you haven't considered enough options.
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TheHumanTarget
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quote:
Only when you haven't considered enough options.
While I'm sure most of you have the best intentions, I'd appreciate it if you'd leave my decision-making skills out of your comments. I had a specific (although admittedly not specific enough) question, and didn't solicit anyone’s input on why I'm choosing to do this.

Thanks.

THT

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initially I suspected it was a question for finance homework.
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quote:
Assume that I have $400,000 worth of investments, and am looking to cash all of it in at once. What would the initial tax fee be, and what would the end of year tax rate be?
$0.00 under the FairTax.
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TheHumanTarget
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Cheiros,

That's an interesting link, although I don't think it will happen any time soon.

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Primal Curve
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Okay, I'll be less caustic in this response.

Even without the why of the situation, it's impossible to give you an answer as the term "investment" is far too broad to determine any tax liability.

Examples of investments:
  • Stocks
  • Bonds
  • Real Estate (or REITs)
  • Stock Options
  • Tax-Deferred Retirement plans (401k, IRA, etc.)
  • Roth Retirement Plans
  • Pension Plans
  • Classic Cars
  • Memorabilia
  • Collectables
  • Precious Metals
  • Gems
  • Etc. Etc. ad nauseum.

All of these investments are taxed differently. So, you see, even without the why, an answer cannot be given without more information.

Professional advice is definitely worth it. With their help, you'll save significantly more money than their advice will cost you.

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Yes, yes...I'm well aware. Thank you for your insight.
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