quote:KASHRUTH ALERT Brand: Pocahontas Product: Pork and Beans in Tomato Sauce- Food Service (#10 can) Company: Progressive Group Alliance Inc. Issue: This product mistakenly bears an unauthorized OU symbol. The product is being withdrawn from the marketplace.
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I believe the company does actually produce some beans-without-pork that are kosher. I imagine it was a printing error.
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I know. It's just that I always just want to crack up when I hear that line. But, you know, that would be rude.
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They already have those. They are called sheep.
I remember thinking that Onion article was funny a few years ago. Now I find it kind of nauseating. And there's a pretty large problem in that I don't believe there is a Jewish body whose authority would be recognized to change the law for all jews.
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quote:And there's a pretty large problem in that I don't believe there is a Jewish body whose authority would be recognized to change the law for all jews.
...which is a large part of the humor, from where I'm sitting.
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quote:They already have those. They are called sheep.
quote:And there's a pretty large problem in that I don't believe there is a Jewish body whose authority would be recognized to change the law for all jews.
There will NEVER be a body that can revoke Biblical law. Rabbinical law, potentially.
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quote:Originally posted by Tante Shvester: I know. It's just that I always just want to crack up when I hear that line. But, you know, that would be rude.
You laugh, but I can't tell you how shocked I was when I actually ran into someone who thought that was what kashrut meant.
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quote:Originally posted by pooka: They already have those. They are called sheep.
I remember thinking that Onion article was funny a few years ago. Now I find it kind of nauseating. And there's a pretty large problem in that I don't believe there is a Jewish body whose authority would be recognized to change the law for all jews.
Not that kind of law, anyway.
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quote:Originally posted by Tante Shvester: I know. It's just that I always just want to crack up when I hear that line. But, you know, that would be rude.
You laugh, but I can't tell you how shocked I was when I actually ran into someone who thought that was what kashrut meant.
So was I, the first time. I was also shocked the first time someone tried to convince me that K and O-K were symbolic of affiliation with the KKK.
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How about going to Israel and discovering people who think the O-R is an American kosher certification? (It stands for "Orthodox Rabbinate," doesn't it?)
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quote:Originally posted by rivka: Shmuel, I didn't mean as a joke. Not all of us grew up in NYC.
Ooh, you make a good point.
(I have a copy of "The Reverend's Handbook" from 1920-something at home... it's a slim, pocket-sized volume in English and Yiddish, containing sample sermons and useful facts for rabbis. I got it for a few shekolim at a used seforim store in Mea Shearim. One of my favorite bits is the sunrise/sunset/candle-lighting-time table, which is labelled as having the correct times for America. New York City wasn't specified; that was taken for granted.)
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It still is. I can't tell you how many Jewish fora/email lists/yahoo groups/etc. I am on, where all the Tri-State people assume that everyone lives there.
That sounds like a very cool book.
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In my case, I had a friend in Philly who wasn't in the author's class, but knew people who were. He got me a draft of the word list along the way, at which point I abandoned the yeshivish dictionary I'd been compiling with an eye toward publication, because Weiser was clearly way ahead of me.
(I did get an article in Country Yossi's Family Magazine out of it, though.)
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I did meet the author briefly when he transferred to a job at my alma mater (well, the high-school extension of my alma mater) in New York, before he switched careers entirely. We didn't do more than exchange greetings, though.
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Like Abravanell's Rabbi exclaimed when he took the job as conductor of the Utah Symphony, "My G*d Maurice! Thats west of Denver!
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quote:Originally posted by rivka: Given that there are none of you, I figured two was doubly unlikely.
Hee. I saw that.
On the other hand, I grew up surrounded by Shmuels. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry was named Shmuel.
My class of less than 20 students included a Shmuel whose middle name was the same as my first middle name. (I have two.) And I worked at a day camp which had another staff member with the same first name and surname as me. (We were unrelated, but my surname is extremely common even outside Jewish circles.)
But, granted, people with that exact name who have strong opinions about Yeshivish dictionaries and currently live in Boston, MA, are probably few and far between.
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quote:Originally posted by Shmuel: On the other hand, I grew up surrounded by Shmuels. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry was named Shmuel.
Ah, but how many had it as their legal name (and therefore what they'd tell the Census Bureau)? Although I do know quite a few Shmuels, I don't think any have that as their legal name. Most are Samuel. One I know is Steve.
And I know all about common names. I was one of four Rivkas in elementary and high school, and so went by first and middle name. Got to seminary all excited to go by just Rivka . . . and there were two other Rivkas. Even now, I have to think how to identify myself when I call people.
And there are two Rivkas in town whose last name (one is her married name) is the same as my maiden name. People keep telling me that they heard I was doing X. I tell them that I've heard that too . . .
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quote:Originally posted by Shmuel: On the other hand, I grew up surrounded by Shmuels. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry was named Shmuel.
Ah, but how many had it as their legal name (and therefore what they'd tell the Census Bureau)?
Hmm. I do, but now that you mention it, the one in my class had "Steven" as his legal name. The rest I don't know about, though I suspect there are more of us than you think... At least in New York City, my generation onward (Yekkis excluded, of course); part of the continuing shift to the right.
quote:And there are two Rivkas in town whose last name (one is her married name) is the same as my maiden name. People keep telling me that they heard I was doing X. I tell them that I've heard that too
quote:Originally posted by Shmuel: I do, but now that you mention it, the one in my class had "Steven" as his legal name.
O_o
I assume it's not the same one I know. In fact, I don't see how it can be. (Um, how old are you again?) Maybe the Shmuel/Steven combination is more common than I thought!
And yeah, my legal name and my kids' are all the same as our Hebrew names. (And it's mostly true of my brothers, although there are some y/j changes and such.) I know it is becoming more common.
Maybe the next generation of that site will acknowledge all the Shmuels. Hey, it already acknowledges my first name (although it still thinks I don't exist).
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quote:Originally posted by rivka: I assume it's not the same one I know. In fact, I don't see how it can be. (Um, how old are you again?)
Safe bet that it isn't, and I'm mumblethirtythreemumble.
quote:Maybe the Shmuel/Steven combination is more common than I thought!
Yep. I believe Steven Spielberg is another Shmuel.
I've long said that if I had to have a non-Hebrew name, I'd want to go with "Steve." It just sounds cooler than "Sam."
quote:And yeah, my legal name and my kids' are all the same as our Hebrew names. (And it's mostly true of my brothers, although there are some y/j changes and such.) I know it is becoming more common.
Cool.
quote:Maybe the next generation of that site will acknowledge all the Shmuels. Hey, it already acknowledges my first name (although it still thinks I don't exist).
Hee. That'd be nice!
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Hey rivka - - are you still coming up north to visit? (sorry to intrude on the conversation . . . )
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I don't trust howmanyofme very much. They don't have any record of my girlfriend's last name. And, while it is a very odd last name, she has a big family.
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quote:Safe bet that it isn't, and I'm mumblethirtythreemumble.
Since I believe he's a couple years older, I assume not. Brooklyn is a big place.
quote:Yep. I believe Steven Spielberg is another Shmuel.
I don't think I knew that. His mom's restaurant is around the corner from me, but I haven't been in there in years. [whisper]The food is better at Milk 'n' Honey. [/whisper]
quote:I've long said that if I had to have a non-Hebrew name, I'd want to go with "Steve." It just sounds cooler than "Sam."
HEY! On behalf of my cousin Sam, I say to you.
Not that anyone calls him Sam since they made aliyah. Now he goes by Shmuel.
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quote:Originally posted by Shan: Hey rivka - - are you still coming up north to visit? (sorry to intrude on the conversation . . . )
I think not right now. It's too cold up there! *shiver* (I guess you missed when I bumped the thread the other day.)
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quote:Originally posted by rivka: HEY! On behalf of my cousin Sam, I say to you.
Not that anyone calls him Sam since they made aliyah. Now he goes by Shmuel.
I had a great-uncle Sam whom I quite liked, so I have good associations with the name... but I stand by my assessment. Not that it has any practical application, 'cause I'm sticking with Shmuel myself.
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