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BandoCommando
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Now that's just wrong.

8,000 messages a month!??!

I can't help but wonder what her grades are like...With that much social (kind of) time spent on her phone, she must not have much time for her school work.

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I get lost when I try to send a single message. It's too tedious.

8,000 messages would take me the entire month to actually formulate.

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pH
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I've exceeded 1000 messages in a month. I don't think I could do 8,000...but 1000 is actually not that hard to do. Think about how many messages you send over AIM (if you use it).

*pats unlimited mobile-to-mobile message plan*

-pH

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I think my thumb would fall off if I did that. I've never gotten into text messaging because it's such a pain to enter messages.
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I don't pay for text messaging, so I can't receive or send them. I just wish it would tell people that when they send a text, cause it's a big pain when people think they've contacted you but they haven't.
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Alcon
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I didn't used to do it, and then I met people who did use it. Now I rather prefer it to calling people... course I hated calling people to begin with, so I'm willing to put up with it if it means I don't have to call for little things [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by pH:
I've exceeded 1000 messages in a month. I don't think I could do 8,000...but 1000 is actually not that hard to do. Think about how many messages you send over AIM (if you use it).

Hmm, I don't use AIM very often, but I can type into AIM. I can't type with my cell, no matter what they tell me.

--j_k

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Fusiachi
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For those who have a difficult time text messaging, I recommend T9 (or iTap, for you Motorola folks out there). It leads to a dramatic improvement in text messaging speed, after the initial (short) learning curve.
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quote:
Originally posted by Shigosei:
I think my thumb would fall off if I did that. I've never gotten into text messaging because it's such a pain to enter messages.

You'd be surprised how quickly you get used to it. I can text with one thumb, without looking at my phone. While juggling flaming bowling balls with my off hand.

It's a handy skill.

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pH
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quote:
Originally posted by El JT de Spang:
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Originally posted by Shigosei:
I think my thumb would fall off if I did that. I've never gotten into text messaging because it's such a pain to enter messages.

You'd be surprised how quickly you get used to it. I can text with one thumb, without looking at my phone. While juggling flaming bowling balls with my off hand.

It's a handy skill.

Yup.

-pH

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That averages out to around 16.5 texts/hour for every waking hour (assuming she sleeps 8 hrs a night). That's just about one ever 3.5 minutes. I wish we knew how long she spent (on average) per message. Taking her 15 second time to win the East Coast challenge as a single data point, that means she spends approximately 1/14 of all her waking time texting. Or, looked at in a different way, four working days a month are devoted purely to texting.
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I would say that at 8,000 it is time to start using your voice.... [Smile]
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Some phone networks will let you send text messages through their webpage. In the past I have found this to be very convenient, especially when I had other work to do on the computer.
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Chris Bridges
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Keep in mind that many text messages are going to be on the level of "OK."
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El JT de Spang
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I've never texted 'OK'.

Why would I, when 'K' conveys the exact same info and is much easier to text. I mean txt. [Wink]

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pH
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I text "Okay."

JT is about the only person I text in abbreviations.

-pH

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Euripides
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My brother can text at about the speed I can type (slight exaggeration) without looking at his phone (no exaggeration at all). He's got a very busy social life.

I don't think he's written 8,000 though. What can I say; A for effort.

(Sorry, I know this can in fact be a serious financial problem. I hope she cools it a little with the txting.)

[Edit: sp]

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She won $25,000 -- who cares what her grades are like? ;-)
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So after taxes, that's what...$250? [Razz]
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There are also phones that have mini keyboards which makes texting a lot faster.
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My phone doesn't have anything called T9. I do have a "word" setting, but it doesn't work well for short words because there are multiple possible words for a given set of numbers. Also, it doesn't do things like names. Or abbreviations.
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Fusiachi
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Many of them will adapt to the words and abbreviations you most commonly use, and will add any new combinations. If it's an uncommon, short word, you can anticipate it and be prepared to select the proper letter "manually".
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Narnia
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I've decided that I'm never. Ever. going to let any child of mine have a device with which he or she can send and receive silent messages while at school. It is the rudest, most obnoxious thing to do to a teacher. Cell phones are my biggest discipline problem. Even ipods don't cause me so much trouble.
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Two months ago my 15 year old sister racked up a $500 cell phone bill - over 7000 text messages. And she had the nerve to tell my dad he should have known to give her an unlimited plan. The real kicker is she still has the phone, and I don't think she was even grounded.
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quote:
Originally posted by Narnia:
I've decided that I'm never. Ever. going to let any child of mine have a device with which he or she can send and receive silent messages while at school. It is the rudest, most obnoxious thing to do to a teacher. Cell phones are my biggest discipline problem. Even ipods don't cause me so much trouble.

Well, cell phones are against every (I would hope) school's policy, if that makes you feel any better. And if it gets taken away they don't get it back unless the the parent comes and gets it.

IF I provided my child with a cell phone, it would be a prepaid phone with VERY little funds available, and 14 would be the absolute earliest age that would happen. Once they get a job, they can pay for it themselves.

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I text all the time and so I got an unlimited plan. [Smile] My phone has the little qwerty keyboard inside, which makes it easier. It's like im, and way better than calling! I don't think I have ever done 8000 a month but hey I bet I easily send 8000 lines through AIM a month, which is basically the same thing, you know?
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Okay, I've gotta ask... What's so useful about being able to juggle flaming bowling balls?
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I have a friend who's sent over 11,000 in one month. Coincidentally, he's being nominated for the "Most Likely To Have Their Phone Taken Away In Class" award in the yearbook.

I think I've sent 3 in past two months.

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quote:
I've decided that I'm never. Ever. going to let any child of mine have a device with which he or she can send and receive silent messages while at school. It is the rudest, most obnoxious thing to do to a teacher. Cell phones are my biggest discipline problem. Even ipods don't cause me so much trouble.
What age kids do you teach?
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quote:
Originally posted by Shigosei:
I think my thumb would fall off if I did that. I've never gotten into text messaging because it's such a pain to enter messages.

Agreed.

quote:
Originally posted by Narnia:
I've decided that I'm never. Ever. going to let any child of mine have a device with which he or she can send and receive silent messages while at school. It is the rudest, most obnoxious thing to do to a teacher.

Agreed. My daughter has a cellphone (she needs to be able to call me and/or her dad after school, etc.), but we quite deliberately got her one that does NOT do text. In fact, it has no keyboard at all, and can only send/receive calls from numbers I have entered into its memory.
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Text messaging, along with email and occasional cell phone calls, made my pre-engagement relationship possible (for a while we were in danger of developing romantic feelings for our phones). Google chat has now largely replaced those, however, now that I, too, sit in an office all day.

I STILL never sent nearly that many messages in a month, though. I hope.

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quote:
Originally posted by aspectre:
Okay, I've gotta ask... What's so useful about being able to juggle flaming bowling balls?

If by useful you mean what does it do - well, it doesn't do any...

Er, I mean, "It helps when you have to pick up the 7-10 split."

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rivka
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Your local bowling place must have a really comprehensive insurance policy.
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[ROFL]
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quote:
Originally posted by Alcon:
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I've decided that I'm never. Ever. going to let any child of mine have a device with which he or she can send and receive silent messages while at school. It is the rudest, most obnoxious thing to do to a teacher. Cell phones are my biggest discipline problem. Even ipods don't cause me so much trouble.
What age kids do you teach?
High School and middle school. It's not a problem at the middle school, for the most part. They're allowed to have them at the high school (for emergencies - haha) but they find every way they can to text during class. I'm constantly yanking phones. I'm going to have a crate full of them up at the front of the classroom before too long.
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i dislike texting, but i have become pretty good at it. it's a useful thing to get good at, especially when u know the person u are trying to get a hold of is in a class. i definitely prefer talking to people, but many times its just inappropriate talk on your phone. slightly less so if you are texting. yes i suppose it is rude to the teacher, but it's such an easy way to get an immediate response from someone. so, my empathy to you Narnia, but i doubt i'll stop anytime soon.
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yes i suppose it is rude to the teacher, but it's such an easy way to get an immediate response from someone. so, my empathy to you Narnia, but i doubt i'll stop anytime soon.
Well, I guess you get points for honesty.

But you lose 'em all for sheer selfishness and immaturity. If someone is in class, you wait to talk to them. Learn a little patience! [Razz]

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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
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yes i suppose it is rude to the teacher, but it's such an easy way to get an immediate response from someone. so, my empathy to you Narnia, but i doubt i'll stop anytime soon.
Well, I guess you get points for honesty.

But you lose 'em all for sheer selfishness and immaturity. If someone is in class, you wait to talk to them. Learn a little patience! [Razz]

99.9999% of the time, I'd agree with you Rivka. But I can imagine several scenarios in which texting would be useful in an emergency or urgent situation. For elementary/secondary students, there are alternative ways for students to be contacted in case of emergency, such as when a parent contacts the main office of the school and the student is summoned. But in college or work situations, a text message could sometimes (though rarely, I admit) be a useful means of communicating information while only disrupting ONE person. This, as opposed to a verbal conversation that disrupts the education and/or working environment for all within earshot.

Again, out of all of the text messages sent, the vast majority COULD wait until the class/meeting/workday was over. So, rivka, I applaud your sentiment regarding patience.

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That's what I tell my kids. If they get an emergency text from their mom or something, they need to TELL ME and I'll help them do what needs to be done. I don't mind that at all. It's when they sit there with it behind a book or in their pocket, thinking that they're outsmarting me while they text useful things like "NW! I cant blv he did tht!"*

*Note: When I use text messaging, I write in complete sentences with syntax and spelling intact. Therefore, I have no idea how to imitate a teenager who racks up no less than 2000 messages per month.

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When I think about text messaging I get the following imaginary sequence,

1: "Mr Morse, its incredible, a telegraph machine that can send messages over a wire!"

*years later*

2: "Mr Bell, you have outdone us all, your telephone sends the human voice over thousands of miles instantly, its far superior to the telegraph!"

*years later*

3: "Guess what Amy! Verizon's new text package is brilliant! I can send text messages to all my friends all the time without actually talking to them!"

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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
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yes i suppose it is rude to the teacher, but it's such an easy way to get an immediate response from someone. so, my empathy to you Narnia, but i doubt i'll stop anytime soon.
Well, I guess you get points for honesty.

But you lose 'em all for sheer selfishness and immaturity. If someone is in class, you wait to talk to them. Learn a little patience! [Razz]

Do you wait until people are out of class to email them? Just curious, and the reason I ask is that if I think of something I need to ask one of my friends and I don't ask it immediately, chances are good I'll forget it.

Now, I can generally choose how I ask the question, whether it be myspace/facebook message, email, phone call, or text message. I decide which of these methods to used based on a number of things, chief among them being where I am at the time, where they are at the time, and how urgent the thing that I'm asking them is.

I wouldn't think twice about texting someone that I knew was in class (now, in my case, 'class' means 'college'). If we were talking about high school I don't know that I'd feel the same way.

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You know, even in college, if you have an emergency, and call the office of the department you're in, theyll send someone to your class to get you and tell you about the emergency. I know, what a concept!

I give my schedule at the beginning of every term to my kids' school and to my husband and parent, and the numbers of both the English and Education departments. I tell them if I'm in an English class, call the English department to get me, if I'm in an education class, call them.

I've also had teachers who said up front if you knew there was a potential emergency and needed to have your phone with you (if, say you had a relative in the hospital and were waiting on word) then you could have your phone with you. But to text during class just because is incredibly rude. And I'm not speaking as a teacher (yet) but as a student - it bugs the heck out of me to hear someone clicking all those keys next to me when I'm trying to focus on a lecture.

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Agreed. My daughter has a cellphone (she needs to be able to call me and/or her dad after school, etc.), but we quite deliberately got her one that does NOT do text. In fact, it has no keyboard at all, and can only send/receive calls from numbers I have entered into its memory.
My 14 year old also has one, because she babysits and often has to stay after school for activities and might need to get in touch with me. Texting is disabled on it. She only has 100 minutes a month (nights and weekends, though, are free) and if she goes over then the phone is taken away until she earns enough from babysitting to pay me the difference. So far, she hasn't gone over once.
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Bleh, man you guys are strict.

I mean 100 minutes a month? I've spent that much time on one call. I often find texting much more convenient than calling a person, because often it's actually cheaper to send a text with a simple message rather than making a call to say a little thing like "I'm not going to be there tonight" or something.

Also it isn't nearly as dumb as that walkie talkie thing that Nokia has.

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quote:
Originally posted by El JT de Spang:
Do you wait until people are out of class to email them?

The wonderful thing about emails is that they sit there patiently, waiting for the receiving party to get out of class and check their email. (And if you're going to tell me that many students sit in class cruising the web and checking their email, I would tell you that is another problem.)

But most people carry their phones with them (often in spite of school rules to the contrary). And it was also clear that krynn meant having a real-time conversation with someone currently in class. Leaving a message for them to pick up after class I would have no problem with. But that's clearly not what's going on here.

And Bando, we're clearly not talking about actual emergencies either.

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The wonderful thing about emails is that they sit there patiently, waiting for the receiving party to get out of class and check their email.
Text messages work the exact same way. You have no control over when the receiver chooses to check their email or text messages, and certainly no responsibility not to send a message when you think the person might be distracted.

It's no different than sending an email to someone who carries a blackberry or another email enabled mobile device (of which there are a ton).

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And if someone were doing that deliberately to talk to someone currently in class, I would find it every bit as obnoxious.

quote:
Originally posted by krynn:
it's a useful thing to get good at, especially when u know the person u are trying to get a hold of is in a class. <snip> yes i suppose it is rude to the teacher, but it's such an easy way to get an immediate response from someone. <snip> i doubt i'll stop anytime soon.

That's deliberate, childish, and obnoxious.
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
And if someone were doing that deliberately to talk to someone currently in class, I would find it every bit as obnoxious.

quote:
Originally posted by krynn:
it's a useful thing to get good at, especially when u know the person u are trying to get a hold of is in a class. <snip> yes i suppose it is rude to the teacher, but it's such an easy way to get an immediate response from someone. <snip> i doubt i'll stop anytime soon.

That's deliberate, childish, and obnoxious.
How? Because he contradicts your rules?
I guess I'm childish and obnoxious too then...

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quote:
Originally posted by SoaPiNuReYe:
How? Because he contradicts your rules?
I guess I'm childish and obnoxious too then...

I think that rivka means that it is obnoxious and childish to do something even though you know it is rude. If that's what she (rivka, did I use the right pronoun?) means, then I agree.
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I am a she, and that is precisely what I meant.
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