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Eldrad
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http://www.weakgame.com/data/Videos/20051231_005_fast_fingers.wmv

I started to watch this video a little skeptical that the guy was going to ruin a perfectly good classical piece, but he did it really well. Hope you guys enjoy it as much as I did.

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Holy cr@p!

I watched that REALLY closely, and I don't think that was faked in terms of him not actually playing the guitar.

Is it possible that was speeded up in playback or something? If not, that guy is truly a phenomenon, IMHO.

I mean, I'm sure there are people out there who could play that with practice, but I wouldn't think that it'd be a very common level of skill to attain.

Please tell me it's not a clever fake.

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There is a guy named Evan Marshall who plays the Finale from the William Tell Overture on mandolin. Alone. No tricks. I've seen him do it live, it's amazing.
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http://www.tracebundy.com/trace_data/videos/Canon.wmv

http://www.tracebundy.com/trace_data/videos/DuelingNinjas.wmv

Pay special attention to the one handed, FRETLESS harmonics.

http://www.tracebundy.com/trace_data/videos/Hot%20Capo%20Stew.wmv

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I mean, I'm sure there are people out there who could play that with practice, but I wouldn't think that it'd be a very common level of skill to attain.

Please tell me it's not a clever fake.

Watching the finger movements, he's at least able to move his fingering hand as fast as the recording. I don't think it's speeded up. There's a portion in the last third where he's playing up really high on the neck where I'm not sure the fingering is consistent with the sound, but I could just be thrown off by the fact that there's background instrumentation in addition to his playing.

What would actually amaze me more than the speed is the accuracy and fidelity in one take.

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What would actually amaze me more than the speed is the accuracy and fidelity in one take.
Like I said, there's a guy who does the Finale from the William Tell Overture on a single mandolin, and I've seen him do it live... You just have to practice a WHOLE LOT.
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Like I said, there's a guy who does the Finale from the William Tell Overture on a single mandolin, and I've seen him do it live... You just have to practice a WHOLE LOT.
I'd actually really like to see that. Happen to know the name of the performer?
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The bends look consistent to me. I've seen several very good fakes where the bends were the giveaway.

There were a few discontinuities in his fingering that were probably dropped frames on my display but could indicate splicing.

Also, there's a "squeak" when he's doing the fast fingering on the 20th+ fret that seems consistent with things I've seen live, but I haven't seen enough to be sure.

Impressive either way, but way, way more impressive if it's real.

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I'd actually really like to see that. Happen to know the name of the performer?
I posted it above. [Razz] Evan Marshall. You can hear it on his CD "The Lone Arranger".
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His website actually has a video of him doing William Tell. [Big Grin] So cool!
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Damn you, Quicktime requirement! Damn you, work computer!

I suppose this means I should get back to work, instead of getting paid to read forums >_<.

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I see no reason to believe it's not real. I mean, he fudged a few times but was able to recover and make it sound good. Not that I can play like that on any level.
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Oh, no! You don't have Quicktime at work? Oh, no! We just watched it and my daughter was dancing and clapping and laughing. [Big Grin]
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Wow this guy is amazing!
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You're a mean woman, Kqueen. [Cry]
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PC, I agree. There were a few skips/lags, but I think that was WMP, not him.
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I know, erosomniac, I know. My husband tells me all the time. [Razz]
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quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
http://www.tracebundy.com/trace_data/videos/Canon.wmv

http://www.tracebundy.com/trace_data/videos/DuelingNinjas.wmv

Pay special attention to the one handed, FRETLESS harmonics.

http://www.tracebundy.com/trace_data/videos/Hot%20Capo%20Stew.wmv

This guy should be shot for hosting such rediculously huge files. I mean, the song wasn't even really that long and it took FOREVER to download his video. I suppose that probably put me in a sour mood because I wasn't so impressed.
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quote:
Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
PC, I agree. There were a few skips/lags, but I think that was WMP, not him.

That's not quite what I meant. I meant that he started in on some fast fills and just kind of muddled them up or completely missed the notes, but was able to make it sound on purpose anyways.
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This guy should be shot for hosting such rediculously huge files. I mean, the song wasn't even really that long and it took FOREVER to download his video. I suppose that probably put me in a sour mood because I wasn't so impressed.
That guy should be given an award for hosting files whose video quality doesn't absolutely suck.
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That's not quite what I meant. I meant that he started in on some fast fills and just kind of muddled them up or completely missed the notes, but was able to make it sound on purpose anyways.

And that's not what I meant. [Razz] I got what you meant. I was just saying that the only things I noticed wrong that anyone had mentioned above were not, IMO, the result of editing, but of the file quality/playback quality. I was just agreeing with you that I saw no reason to call it fake. [Smile]
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Yeah, damn him for refusing to compromise on quality...

Dial-up users have no place complaining about download times, anyway (you are using dial-up, right? 'Cause those stream more or less instantly even on my workplace's craptacular DSL connection).

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I love my cable internet. [Big Grin]
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Well I just watched it too Ersomaniac. All I can say is, sucks to be you. [Evil]
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quote:
Originally posted by ketchupqueen:
I love my cable internet. [Big Grin]

I love my T1.
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Our choices here are dial-up or cable. Since cable internet plus cable tv-- all the channels except the premium ones like HBO and Cinemax and stuff-- are $52 a month...
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Our choices here are dial-up or cable. Since cable internet plus cable tv-- all the channels except the premium ones like HBO and Cinemax and stuff-- are $52 a month...
&$)(#@*$#@

I have basic cable and cable internet at home...$97 a month after taxes and fees. *SIGH*

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Damn you, Quicktime requirement!
Let me take this opportunity to recommend "Quicktime Alternative" and "Real Alternative". All they do is allow you to play those files. They odn't try to take over your computer at all.
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I use QTAlt at home - just not here at work, where to modify anything computer related without permission is to risk death.
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Yeah, I had the lowest tier of digital cable alogn with internet (cause I couldn't get analog cable and internet at the same time) and my bill was 115 a month. Without the internet (because I switched to DSL through the phone company at 15 a month), I'm currently paying 62 for the same digital service. I just started investigating dish options. My biggest concern is where to put the dish since I'm in an apartment and I don't think the landlord will like me having holes drilled into the tuckpointing.

Oh, and the 12 year old loves the Canon piece... even the cat looked like she was headbanging!

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<stunned>

Simply amazing.

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If you guys like classical electric, check out the raging Bachofile Johanshlack. He has a website you can google it, no time for a link. But he plays alot of cool bach stuff, eg, Cello suite in G reloaded, etc.


PS- what's the fuss? Ive seen this video, its not very impressive. The guy is using foot pedals to control volume/tone etc, besides that its nothing a competent rocker couldn't do if he had enough spare time on his hands. Actually I prefer the japanese guy who playes mario brothers themes with sound effects.

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check out the raging Bachofile Johanshlack. He has a website you can google it
Google had zero hits for Johanshlack.
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I assumed you would know I am retarded in the spelling department...


johannschlack

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quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
Yeah, damn him for refusing to compromise on quality...

Dial-up users have no place complaining about download times, anyway (you are using dial-up, right? 'Cause those stream more or less instantly even on my workplace's craptacular DSL connection).

Pfft. I have a 5Mbit downstream.
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You may also be interested in Jake Shimabukuro. He's an increadible ukulele player, there was a fairly impressive video of him covering the Beatles' "While my guitar gently weeps" floating around the net a while back. It's amazing what these guys can do with their instruments.
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I should clarify that our cable is not digital. Less perks. But I still get SciFi and the Food Network and USA and TNT (for my SVU/L&O/CI fix), not to mention reception in general (around here all you get without cable or satellite is fuzz) so I'm happy. [Smile]
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To me, knowing that there are others who are great out there only makes the world an even better place. I don't know who this guy is, but I'm impressed that he did this. Great musicianship doesn't mean never making an error, either.

Heck, I just think this guy has attained a skill level that is uncommon. And I applaud him for taking the time and having the patience to do it.

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there was a fairly impressive video of him covering the Beatles' "While my guitar gently weeps" floating around the net a while back. It's amazing what these guys can do with their instruments.
I remember that, it was freaking sweet.
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Obviously none of you have ever heard of Yngwie Malmsteen. Have a listen to either Trilogy Suite Opus (one piece), or Concerto Suite for Electric Guitar and Orchestra in E Flat Minor (an album).
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Jake Shimabakuro and While My Guitar Gently Weeps

http://johannschlack.com/

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Wow you'd need some amazing finger muscles to do those hammerons on that Dueling Ninjas one.
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That dueling ninjas thing is also bad***.

*bookmarks page*

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quote:
Originally posted by twinky:
Obviously none of you have ever heard of Yngwie Malmsteen. Have a listen to either Trilogy Suite Opus (one piece), or Concerto Suite for Electric Guitar and Orchestra in E Flat Minor (an album).

Oh, I know Malsteen. He's a geetar GAWD and I love listening to him. However, he dresses like a total knob. I just can't reconcile his awesomeness with his gooberish image.
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Malmsteen is fantastic, but I (like most people, I think...?) tend to judge amateur work by a different standard than, you know, guitar legends.

I mean, my friend can play Tears in Heaven really well and the emotion he puts into it is fantastic, but he's not CLAPTON.

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You may also be interested in Jake Shimabukuro. He's an increadible ukulele player, there was a fairly impressive video of him covering the Beatles' "While my guitar gently weeps" floating around the net a while back. It's amazing what these guys can do with their instruments.
Jake is amazing. Ukulele fretwork gets very undersold because it's 4 nylon strings, but really...it's awesome.
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That Evan Marshall clip was incredible, not to mention Trace Bundy (I would assume that's his name). Seeing him reminded me of another musician you guys might want to check out named Anthony Mazzella. As far as I know, he doesn't cover classical stuff but just writes his own; it's absolutely amazing, though, especially if you can see videos of him playing. I don't think I've ever seen a better guitarist in my life. My school holds a thing every weekend for the students (mainly to encourage them to do something that isn't drinking) at which he performed, so I got to see him play live. Some of the best few hours of my life. I'll check to see if I can find some videos of him floating around.

Edit: Here's a link I found to a ten minute clip on his website, though sometimes it's hard to see him playing. Maybe there's a better one floating around out there. http://www.anthonymazzella.com/movies2.html

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Also for sheer weirdness/coolness factor, check out Rodney Brannigan:

http://www.rodneybraniganmusic.com/multimedia/video/twoguitars.mov

Two guitars at once!

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I really HATE be a naysayer (yah right) but common, really? The novelty is dimished by the shear improbability of the thing. Its a neat trick, but can this guy do anything but maybe one peice on two guitars? If can, well then alright.
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(sigh)

Yes, he does more than one piece on two guitars. He's known for playing several pieces on two guitars, as well as playing a guitar and playing percussion simultaneously, while singing.

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My dad can do both of those (he doesn't do well on two guitars at once, but that's because he hasn't practiced. I have seen him do it.) He also does the thing where he plays guitar and takes a harmonica break simultaneously, which also takes practice.

He also plays guitar in his sleep. That one is very, very amusing.

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