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firebird
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Can I officially say that I LOATH(E) the new office 2007 user interface. this ribbon thing is horrible and I just can't get it to work.


ARGH
[Mad]

/end rant

[ August 02, 2007, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: firebird ]

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Amanecer
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It takes some getting used to, but I'm really liking it. Excel 2007 is incredible.
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firebird
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Really? It isn't going to be aweful? I might in the end like it?

What's the good news


<feeling annoyed but mildly hopeful>

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quidscribis
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I dunno. I still hate it. Can't find a dang thing.
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Farmgirl
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I've gotten used to it now that I've been using it for over 5 months or so.

And Microsoft makes some great add-in tools to help with the conversion. This one for Word 2007 and This one for Excel are add-ins that add a "tab" (menu option) at the top called "Get Started" and it will show you where a 2003 command is in 2007.

I'll admit there is a learning curve, but now that I've used it a bit, I'm liking it more.

FG

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TomDavidson
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Excel 2007 is good. Outlook 2007 is tolerable. Access has some nice interoperability with SharePoint. Everything else is, as the Scottish say, crap.
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rivka
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Our IT guy recommended sticking with 2003. So far, so good. [Wink]
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Architraz Warden
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From what I've heard (and seen, and expirienced)...

For people who used every facet of MS Office 2003, and those people who have never used any MS Office, Office 2007 is supposed to be a massive change for the better from pretty much day 1.

For everyone in between, it's going to be a serious PITA to adapt and learn the new interface (I'm still relearning, so no final judgments yet. Though I think I'm going to wind up liking it much more than 2003).

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quote:
Originally posted by firebird:
Can I officially say that I LOATH

No, actually, you can't. You may, if you wish, say that you loathe it; or you may say that you are loath to use it; but you cannot say that you loath it. [/Grammar Communist]
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TomDavidson
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quote:
For people who used every facet of MS Office 2003, and those people who have never used any MS Office, Office 2007 is supposed to be a massive change for the better from pretty much day 1.
I disagree. For people who barely touched MS Office 2003, 2007 is a change for the better. The more familiar you are with Office, the less "intuitive" 2007 feels.
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mr_porteiro_head
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quote:
Hatred for Office 2007
I'm seriously considering voting for Hatred, but the elections aren't until next year.
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I prefer LaTex.

If I have to do calculations on data, I write programs.

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Architraz Warden
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quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
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For people who used every facet of MS Office 2003, and those people who have never used any MS Office, Office 2007 is supposed to be a massive change for the better from pretty much day 1.
I disagree. For people who barely touched MS Office 2003, 2007 is a change for the better. The more familiar you are with Office, the less "intuitive" 2007 feels.
No disagreement with the first bit, but there's a point where that peaks and the fact features that should have been there before are now in fact there shines through for higher end users. I'm thinking of the full text preview, the font styles being functional and not entirely hidden, and the ability to insert formulas / characters without some curses directed towards the programmers' parentage.

I'd consider myself to be well beyond familiar with Office (2000 and 2003), and I find 2007 to be a breath of fresh air, even if I have to occasionally force myself to forget how it worked before to use it now (more often than not, doing this is still simpler in the end).

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TomDavidson
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Try getting a table view in an Access file converted from 2003 when the developer has unchecked "show database window" in the Startup options. [Smile]
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Farmgirl
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F11 still works for that, at least in my version
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Fusiachi
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OOo.
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firebird
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OK, I've now spent two days building a financial model in 2007 and it is not quite as unbearable as I had at first thought.

Thankfully, I'm a 90% keyboard user in excel anyway and the new user interface is OK.

What I can't find is the toolbar for forms! How am I meant to include my little drop down boxes.

Thanks for all your encourgagement that it would not be as bad as I feared. It got me over a very dark patch!

(time to go back to the model)

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Farmgirl
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For forms (in Excel 2007), you have to go to "Developer" on the top menu, then hit the little drop-down arrow under the "INSERT" item on the ribbon (looks like a toolbox icon)
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Tatiana
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Does it have "reveal codes"? That was the best feature of the old WordPerfect that MS Word never copied and should have.
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TomDavidson
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There are no "codes" in Word. I spent untold hours trying to explain this to former WordPerfect users as a corporate trainer. [Smile]

In Word, all text is treated as an object. There are document objects, which in turn contain page or section objects, which in turn contain paragraphs, which then contain words and finally characters. Each object can have a given property, like "bold" or "Arial 10pt."

WordPerfect could "reveal codes" originally because it used a "tag" logic, similar to HTML. The closest Word can come, without installing one of the third-party plug-ins that simulate tag functionality, is a feature that allows you to display all the properties active on any character.

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TheTick
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Word's 'Reveal Formatting' feature is mostly useless.
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rivka
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Except when trying to edit a document someone made oddly.
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quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
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Hatred for Office 2007
I'm seriously considering voting for Hatred, but the elections aren't until next year.
I've been misreading the thread title in the same way every time I see it.
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