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Puffy Treat
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...isn't it sort of sad that the "normal" super-hero comics of both DC and Marvel are wildly inappropriate for children these days?

Anyway, here's the titles:

Tiny Titans

Basically preteen Teen Titans, aimed at the early grade school crowd.

Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam!

Captain Marvel and the Marvel family...minus the attempts to shoehorn them into the grim & gritty modern DCU. Done by Mike Kunkel, of HeroBear and the Kid fame!

Super Friends

It's the Justice League, only innocent and fun! No rape, brain-washing, torture, or dark conspiracies!

*shudder*


Oh, DC...all I can say about you these days is "at least you aren't Marvel". [Razz]

[ August 14, 2007, 02:16 AM: Message edited by: Puffy Treat ]

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Super Friends? They should have done Justice Friends from Dexter's Lab! Valhalla ftw.
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I heard that JLU is getting canceled to make room for Super Friends.* So I guess that's officially the end of the DCAU in all mediums.

*Strangely, Teen Titans GO! will still be running alongside the new Tiny Titans.

Also, why didn't you post the art? It can only be described as "adorable." I'll go find it.

EDIT: I forget where I saw it. I'll let Puffy find it.

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Sterling
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I don't know... Reading so much of the older, "kid friendly" comics of the past is actively painful. (A certain Lex Luthor plot involving "flying land mines" comes to mind... Apparently no one on staff thought there was anything peculiar about the term.)

Even given the darkening of comics as a whole, I can't imagine going back to the soap-opera exposition that seemed to account for ninety percent of the writing back in the day.

It has struck me, observing Batman, for example, that part of the transition of Catwoman from villainess to anti-heroine has come from the fact that she's now "only" a thief, whereas her former co-villains have entered the ranks of organized crime (Penguin) or serial murder (Joker).

Comics definitely aren't "just for kids" anymore. I don't know if these offshoots are the solution to the waning of the younger audience, but it will be interesting to see the product, and how its intended audience responds.

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You are correct, Sterling: These comics aren't aimed at the jaded, cynical, current super-hero fan with the average age of 30-50 (!) who delights in stories of the Elongated Man's wife being raped and Iron Man being an evil sell-out.

They're aimed at little kids, who would quite frankly find that "normal" equivalent icky or boring. [Smile]

[ August 14, 2007, 02:15 AM: Message edited by: Puffy Treat ]

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Lord: From what I've heard, TTG!'s days are numbered. Don't expect it to stick around too far beyond the start of Tiny Titans. [Frown]
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I'm not saying that putting "dark" material into comics just to sell issues through titilation or controversy is a good thing. But I'm glad that the medium has grown far enough away from being "only" for kids that it can address serious issues, and as I say, I wouldn't want to revert to the hackneyed writing that some of the older comics display.

It ought to be possible to create a book that remains a steady "PG", engages readers across a spectrum of ages, and doesn't indulge in flying land mines and villains who say things like "Last time I fought Lipid Man, I failed to account for his superior sense of smell! But these thirteen months in the Purple Prison have not been spent idly. With Triclops' illusions to baffle his senses and Emerald Witch's convincing him that his daughter Priscilla has been kidnapped, soon he will fall into my clutches!"...

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Sterling, I'm not disagreeing with you. [Smile]

I'm just saying most of the "sophisticated" Marvel & DC super-hero comics contain stuff that I just wouldn't feel right showing to my little nephew.

But he loves the characters!

It's about time they came out with age-appropriate books...because the aging Marvel/DC super-hero comic fan-base is shrinking every year.

Hook the young'ns, so there'll be a future generation that knows these characters originally came from comics.

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There is SUCH a lack of all ages comic books right now. I'm really glad they are planning on adding new titles. All ages doesn't have to mean lame, and more kid appropriate titles doesn't have to compromise more adult story lines and titles.
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Sterling
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quote:
Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
Sterling, I'm not disagreeing with you. [Smile]

Okay. Smileys aside, I wasn't sure if you were suggesting I was defending the kind of reader who wants to see a genocide occur every third issue.

( [Smile] )

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All ages doesn't have to mean lame, and more kid appropriate titles doesn't have to compromise more adult story lines and titles.
Hmm. I don't agree with this. I think comics have had to ramp up the intensity over the years to compete with other forms of entertainment, while getting away from showing guns, smoking, and relying on racist shorthands for characterization. I mean, I don't know, maybe they don't worry about the gun thing. I just think there is a difference between what a kid can appreciate and what an adult can appreciate. At the same time, many adults elect to exclude themselves from anything a kid can enjoy -- which I find frustrating and stupid, but it's apparently a reality.
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I'd love to see some quality G and PG comics come out for the pre-teen crowd, and for interested adults.
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Most of the quality G & PG comics these days are coming from the non-Marvel non-DC publishers, though recently both have made attempts at rectifying that.

DC's Minx line is promising...and the 'Marvel Adventures' version of The Avengers is better written and more entertaining that the "real" Avengers comics. [Wink]

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Link with art
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quote:
Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
...No rape, brain-washing, torture, or dark conspiracies!

All those things are in HP, and yet people still let their kids read it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Dobbie:
quote:
Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
...No rape, brain-washing, torture, or dark conspiracies!

All those things are in HP, and yet people still let their kids read it.
Rape is in Harry Potter? [Confused]

As I recall, those things are done by the bad guys in the Harry Potter series, not the heroes.

Plus, I know for a fact that some parents don't give the later, darker Harry Potter books to their little children until they're a bit older.

So I'm uncertain what your point is.

"This has dark stuff, and some parents don't mind the dark stuff stuff, so ALL dark stuff must be exactly the same in reason and value and ALL parents will be okay with it."

I'm sorry, but that doesn't work.

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quote:
All ages doesn't have to mean lame, and more kid appropriate titles doesn't have to compromise more adult story lines and titles.
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Hmm. I don't agree with this. I think comics have had to ramp up the intensity over the years to compete with other forms of entertainment, while getting away from showing guns, smoking, and relying on racist shorthands for characterization. I mean, I don't know, maybe they don't worry about the gun thing. I just think there is a difference between what a kid can appreciate and what an adult can appreciate. At the same time, many adults elect to exclude themselves from anything a kid can enjoy -- which I find frustrating and stupid, but it's apparently a reality.
How does this disagree with what I said? To reiterate what I said, but it different words: I think it is a good idea to add more kid-friendly titles, because there are not enough available, and creating more all ages titles won't mean discontinuing more mature titles.
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quote:
Originally posted by Puffy Treat:
Rape is in Harry Potter? [Confused]

(The Onion; probably not in the best of taste.)
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Merope Gaunt had "relations" with Tom Riddle, Sr., while he was under the influence of love potion.
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