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Monsters get average hit points, actually, so that's no problem.
But I don't understand the basis for making Lavos this powerful. At the bottom of the entry they discuss varying power of nuclear weapons, illustrating how even nukes measured in teratons wouldn't be enough to destroy him. This simply doesn't jive with what happens in Chronotrigger, where three tough warriors/magi/robots are able to chew up Lavos and spit him out.
It seems like a ridiculous exercise in Big Numbers™, without any real logic or rationale to back it up.
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But I believe he used Immortals Hand book to come up with the numbers considering its size in relation to the world map, that even crashing into a planet wasn't enough to hurt it.
As for why a Samurai, a Engineer, a Robot, a Princess, a frog, a cavegirl, and a Mage were able to defeat Lavos (with these stats) I don't know, maybe there were all super high level and could in the course of a complicated DnD paper battle actually crack the shell and go in? Maybet he sword was adamantine?
I think largely though it is a thought experiment much like Pun Pun.
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I'm familiar with Pun Pun, but that's got nothing to do with Lavos. One is a game breaking loophole exploitation, the other appears to be an arbitrarily powerful monster.
However, I haven't seen Immortal's Handbook. So, there you go. That probably explains it all to a satisfactory degree.
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Seems if Im reading right there could be a number of ways to kill something that huge even with low level characters.
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Ever try using an online translator multiple times through multiple languages on one block of text? This seems very analogous.
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That makes sense in this reality.... in what way?
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I think he's implying your previous statement was a little garbled, though still understandable.
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Nah, more that It sounds like the creators here took a video game creature, scaled it using real-world size comparisons, than tried to render it in D&D rules. The multiple translations have led to something totally different than what was originally intended.
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Perhaps Chrono Trigger is on the same scale as the action from Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. I seem to recall Frog using the Masamune to split a mountain.
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quote:Originally posted by manji: Perhaps Chrono Trigger is on the same scale as the action from Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. I seem to recall Frog using the Masamune to split a mountain.
I don't recall that at all.
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quote:Originally posted by manji: I seem to recall Frog using the Masamune to split a mountain.
I don't recall that at all.
It's more of a hill, really. Frog gets the sword, and splits open a hill, and that's the entrance to Magus's castle. Then you fight Magus as he's trying to summon Lavos, and the botched attempt opens a portal, and I think you end up in the Ice Age...etc.
Plotwise, it's the reason that you can't fight Magus in 600 AD without going through the Masemune forging sub-plot.
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quote:Originally posted by manji: I seem to recall Frog using the Masamune to split a mountain.
I don't recall that at all.
It's more of a hill, really. Frog gets the sword, and splits open a hill, and that's the entrance to Magus's castle. Then you fight Magus as he's trying to summon Lavos, and the botched attempt opens a portal, and I think you end up in the Ice Age...etc.
Plotwise, it's the reason that you can't fight Magus in 600 AD without going through the Masemune forging sub-plot.
Actually you go to 65,000,000 B.C. after you fight Magus, but that's a minor point. Everything else is correct. Posts: 1831 | Registered: Jan 2003
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quote:Originally posted by manji: I seem to recall Frog using the Masamune to split a mountain.
I don't recall that at all.
It's more of a hill, really. Frog gets the sword, and splits open a hill, and that's the entrance to Magus's castle. Then you fight Magus as he's trying to summon Lavos, and the botched attempt opens a portal, and I think you end up in the Ice Age...etc.
Plotwise, it's the reason that you can't fight Magus in 600 AD without going through the Masemune forging sub-plot.
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