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Samprimary
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stSuEtOVLu0

Watch the video of the Best Female Artist award being given to a surprised and extremely grateful Taylor Swift only to have the mic ripped out of her hands by Kanye West who apparently felt Beyonce should have won.

The whole crowd booed every time he was mentioned after that.

Fortunately Beyoncé gave her speech time over to Swift in response.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46-VUW_w3UM

Kanye tries to apologize in a blog post, fails, also proves nigh-illiterate

ok anyway thought I might introduce a bit of the popular music drama to you all since I imagine this is all practically from another world for a lot of you.

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El JT de Spang
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Kanye is a douche.

In other news, I think this internet fad is here to stay! Also, puppies and pizza are awesome.

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Scott R
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It's not the Best Female Artist award being given out-- it's the Best Female Video.

How much input do the musicians have into what goes into their music videos?

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Tinros
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Scott, that depends on the producer and director. I know with AFI, a few of their videos have been entirely the director.producer, but a couple of them(namely The Leaving Song, Pt. 2) were entirely the band's idea.
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The second link was unavailable, but the video can be seen on GearLive (after commercial) here. As for the "apology" (linked from GearLive), it sounds like West is still saying Beyonce should have won and seems to suggest that Swift should give her award to Beyonce.

Wow - the comments on the "apology" page are quite the eye-opener. Apparently GearLive needs to add a couple of words to their profanity filter.

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Christine
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And the next nominee for douche of the year is...
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oh, I think he's in a category by himself.
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Oh, the poor dear, her voice was shaking during her redo speech.

Isn't Kanye the guy who walked across the stage when he didn't win some award because he thought he deserved it?

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I enjoy the fact that everyone is calling him a douche, asshat, ego-centric sociopath but no one calls him crazy. And yet in his "apology" letter
quote:
I'M NOT CRAZY YALL
I see this as an admission of mental instability and we are all going to hell for persecuting a man with deficiancy's.
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Javert
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Sorry...was there some sort of award presentation last night? What is this mtv you speak of?
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Samprimary
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it is some sort of impious ritual centered around the talking picture-shows and penny dreadfuls of our youth
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Don't worry Javert...there is some sort of Awards Night almost every night, and it seems that MTV is producing most of them.

MTV is a Reality Show Production company that includes Awards Nights as one of their reality shows. Occasionally they need to boost ratings so they increase the drama with things like this.

NOTE: This MTV should not to be confused with the MTV of the 1980's and 1990's that played actual Music Videos on cable television.

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Whaddaya mean now?
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Kanye West should have done what all rappers do and dissed the decision on his next record.
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Or shot various key players.
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"Boooyaaawww"?
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Or shot various key players.
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He DID make a really good apology on Leno just now, but I still don't like him. [Big Grin]
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Or shot various key players.
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TL
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Well, there are much bigger jerks in the world. Who amongst us hasn't acted stupidly, immediately realized we were wrong, and struggled to figure out how to make amends? I've done it, man. In spades. [Smile]
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"Well, there are much bigger jerks in the world. Who amongst us hasn't acted stupidly, immediately realized we were wrong, and struggled to figure out how to make amends? I've done it, man. In spades."

But have you done it repeatedly on television in front of a worldwide audiance? He is a selfish child, who has no thought at all for the feelings and opinions of other people. He should dissapear for ever, but people will support him, buy his records and ignore the fact that he has little to no redeaming qualities. Basically, he's an idiot with a fan base of idiots. Just my two cents...

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quote:
Originally posted by beatnix19:
"Well, there are much bigger jerks in the world. Who amongst us hasn't acted stupidly, immediately realized we were wrong, and struggled to figure out how to make amends? I've done it, man. In spades."

But have you done it repeatedly on television in front of a worldwide audiance? He is a selfish child, who has no thought at all for the feelings and opinions of other people. He should dissapear for ever, but people will support him, buy his records and ignore the fact that he has little to no redeaming qualities. Basically, he's an idiot with a fan base of idiots. Just my two cents...

You messed up the rhythm!

Anyway that sounds like at least fitty cents.

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TL
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quote:
But have you done it repeatedly on television in front of a worldwide audiance? He is a selfish child, who has no thought at all for the feelings and opinions of other people. He should dissapear for ever, but people will support him, buy his records and ignore the fact that he has little to no redeaming qualities. Basically, he's an idiot with a fan base of idiots. Just my two cents...
I think his crimes are exaggerated because they've taken place on tv, and people are unforgiving of him because they look at him through that lens of inhumanity that we apply to celebrities.

There's something about him -- a vulnerability or a sincerity -- that I like.

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Posted this on the youtube thread.

Hitler on Kanye vs. Taylor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0PwqvwyG54

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Respect I lost for Kanye West = 0 (I had none in the first place)

Respect I gained for Beyonce = 10

How classy is Beyonce for doing what she did in giving her speech time to Taylor Swift? A lot of celebrities could learn from her.

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I'm not much of a hiphop/rap person anyways, and I already thought of Kanye as a delusional idiot after hearing his claim that he was the "voice of his generation." But this pretty much seals my complete dislike for the guy. The only piece of music he's done that I like is Love Lockdown, but I might actually even not listen to that anymore. It would be really great if when celebrities behaved like this everybody would just boycott and ignore them and let them fade into irrelevance.
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You all know what a big fan of Obama I am. But this time, he's absolutely right. Link.
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This is all you need to know about Kanye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI

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quote:
Originally posted by malanthrop:
This is all I know about Kanye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI

fixed
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There's this interesting tidbit, too.
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My third grader likes to rhyme too but she still has the intelligence of a third grader.

By the way, I was in New Orleans while in the military. I have to come clean,....we had special buses for white people and were given the go ahead to shoot black people...Ha.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tinros:
There's this interesting tidbit, too.

"The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them."

- Samuel Clemens

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Or shot various key players.
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Apparently President Obama called Kanye a jackass. it was supposed to be off the record. but it isn't.

Now i can just see kanye getting on TV and saying, "Obama hates black people."

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Obama was suppose to be "off the record"..the network has already apologized for twittering his off the record comment. What we need are politicians to be honest with what they believe at all times, instead of weighing political numbers. He spoke his mind while "off the record"; I want a leader who speaks his mind at all times. I want the truth of who I am voting for. We need leaders who never ask the question: "Is this on the record?".

What you should ask yourself is this: "Why would the media apologize for twittering the president's honest opinion?"

[ September 16, 2009, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: malanthrop ]

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manathrop: Yes it's far better that we have a president who always always speaks his mind without restraint. The sort of guy who when trying to negotiate legislation is forced to talk about how much he dislikes his opposition personally. Or when a crisis hits and we look to him for strength, he assuages our anxiety by reminding us that in truth he is human too, and that he may actually screw everything up, and cause irreversible harm.

I am so grateful the media made sure that I know what president Obama's opinion regarding Kanye West is. Up until that moment I really wasn't sure how I should feel. Now that I know the president agrees with me, I love him all the more. I really hope the next few news cycles can be filled with events like this, rather than complex issues like health care or the war in Afghanistan. Those issues are so loaded and complex, that it's better if our president simply stay away from them, rather than try to deal with them head on as then we'd expect him to always spout out his kneejerk responses to every development. Calculated and considered response is far to disingenuous for our people!

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I don't really have a problem with the President saying that, nor do I have a problem with it being reported. I'm not sure why that should cause any controversy at all.
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I loved how Comedy Central reran the Southpark Fishsticks episode all night last night.
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I've sort of realized that Mr. West is addicted to attention, and we're all his dealers. In some ways, he should be viewed like a junkie.

Stuff like this is just a withdrawal symptom. Like he's hallucinating a dead baby crawl across the ceiling or something. And what we have to do is pretend we're his parents in the next room and ignore his pitiful wails of terror. If we give in, he gets his fix.

Okay, maybe not the best analogy there.

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quote:
What you should ask yourself is this: "Why would the media apologize for twittering the president's honest opinion?" [/QB]
Because Twitter is ridiculous and should be destroyed.

--j_k

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Why do we call people douche? What is it about that word that implies a bad person. Would enema not work. I think it would be more fitting since it goes in the place that is another term for a bad person.

Just a thought.

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If I'm not mistaken, it went something like this:

scum -> scumbag -> douchebag -> douche.

But I could be mistaken.

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Phonetically, the way douche sounds is just great. I love saying it. Douche. Douche! Ah, yeah.
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quote:
Originally posted by TL:
I don't really have a problem with the President saying that, nor do I have a problem with it being reported. I'm not sure why that should cause any controversy at all.

I don't have a problem with him saying it nor do I have a problem with his opinion but I do have a problem with a reporter twittering his off the record remark. The president does need to be able to say some things without it being all over the media or nothing would get done.
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Yeah, Christine, I agree. I don't like the way it came out. Mostly it's just... silly. A twitter leak. And then an apology. What's it all about? If it's newsworthy, just report it. If it's not newsworthy, (which it isn't) then who cares? Tweeting out of school.
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Rather, the President will start barring reporters from being near him unless he is on the record.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
If I'm not mistaken, it went something like this:

scum -> scumbag -> douchebag -> douche.

But I could be mistaken.

That etymology doesn't follow for me. A douche bag already exists as a personal hygiene device, and the meaning is significantly different from "scumbag," to rule out a direct morphology. Perhaps the "bag" suffix pattern established by "scumbag" or "dirtbag" or "feedbag," does reinforce the usage, but I think the word stands on its own.
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I don't know, Lisa's explanation made sense to me. Lot's of insults transfer like that.

"***hole"
"Dillhole"
"Bunghole"
"Cornhole"
"Piehole"

It's pretty common to take an insult and change a word to something that doesn't necessarily make sense.

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But douchebag makes sense on its own merits. It's the receptacle of the douche water, and is itself flacid and shapeless.
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Wait, you call people pieholes?

Are they actually insulted?

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