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AchillesHeel
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I have been waiting for this for some time. Energy drinks and supplements are bad enough but this baby is so bad for you they warn you not to drink more than 4oz at a time.
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The White Whale
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Use of this product may cause your skin to be extra sensitive to UV sources, such as artificial or natural sunlight.
For the vampire in all of us.
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rollainm
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I'll drink a regular Redline on the rare occasion when I really need something extra to get me through the day. It's pretty damn effective, and I don't get the crash or jitters I get from the Monster, Amp, etc.

What's crazy is the entire back half of the bottle you're not seeing in the picture is a giant paragraph of warnings.

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rivka
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Good grief.
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Geraine
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This one still doesn't do it for me. A client of mine brought in one called "SPIKE" and after half the bottle time started to slow down. My clients had to tell me to slow down on the phone, and I thought I was talking in slow motion.

The plus? I could type over 200wpm!

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rollainm
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yeus btd id it lok lke this'?
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Sterling
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Warning: this drink contains Bullet Time.

Okay, these things have always been slightly disturbing chemical soups. But I do believe this is a new level.

Jiminy, America. Ya think maybe you could try getting some sleep, instead?

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I recently wrote an indepth 5 Hour Energy drink review in which I show what seems to be a lot of evidence that absolutely none of the ingredients do anything besides for the caffeine.

So I'm skeptical of energy drinks =)

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rollainm
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Originally posted by Phanto:
I recently wrote an indepth 5 Hour Energy drink review in which I show what seems to be a lot of evidence that absolutely none of the ingredients do anything besides for the caffeine.

So I'm skeptical of energy drinks =)

I'm not sure I understand the skepticism. It clearly does what it advertises, regardless of which ingredients are responsible. Let's even assume you're right, and it's just the caffeine. Can you think of a more convenient and effective way to achieve the desired effect?
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rivka
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Caffeine pills. Much cheaper, too.
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The Reader
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There is a pure vitamin B supplement that has somewhere around 2666% of your recommended daily intake. The Navy won't allow its consumption because it makes it look like you "purged" for a urinalysis. That's what I've heard anyway. I'm not drinking that stuff. I'll stick with coffee.
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I bought a bottle of redline pills when I was sixteen. Not really cause I need energy but because I was very bad at having extra money. Redline causes shaking in a lot of people (like in my legs)which is supposed to cause weight loss or some nonsense.

Redline works, but so do the dollar store energy shots.

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rivka
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Originally posted by The Reader:
I'm not drinking that stuff. I'll stick with coffee.

I'm with you.
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Phanto
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I'm not sure I understand the skepticism. It clearly does what it advertises, regardless of which ingredients are responsible. Let's even assume you're right, and it's just the caffeine. Can you think of a more convenient and effective way to achieve the desired effect?

coffee! Drinking it right now, actually =) It doesn't have 83 times my daily allotment of vitamin b12 or a bunch of other junk ingredients. Just good ol' methylxanthine and other fun stuff.
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rivka
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Rather difficult to get quite as much caffeine from coffee.

I'm giving it the ol' college try, though. Cheers!

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It's my understanding that caffine just blocks the receptors that your body signals to slow down your heart rate and relax you. That the "pep" has to come from something else, like tannic acid or some other substance.

In other words, that some other chemical has to get you going, and then when your body freaks out and tries to slow you down, the caffine blocks it.

Is this not correct?

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Phanto
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For 5 hour energy, which is the only energy drink I have gone through pretty much every ingredient and researched, it has only as much caffeine as a 12 ounce cup of coffee =)

But apparently RedLine has a massive amount of caffeine. My heart is beating faster just looking at the large # - that's really pushing the envelope, imo.

that's an interesting way of looking at it, docmagik. Anyone able to weigh in on that?

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I think I consume about 600mg of caffeine every morning from coffee, plus usually more in the afternoon. It's not difficult at all.

How much is in this redline drink?

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The White Whale
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250 mg per 8 oz. bottle (Source)


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This is a not an energy drink – it’s… well I don’t know what it is.
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Redline Xtreme induces an even more intense Freeze and Burn sensation while also making your entire body quiver with innovative muscle energetic compounds.
ETA for comparison: An 8 oz. cup of brewed coffee has about 100 mg. of caffeine

Here's a whole list of drinks, their sizes, total caffeine, and caffeine per oz. Jeeze, this one has 400 mg of caffeine in 0.17 oz., or ~2400 mg/oz.

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This kind of nonsense is the snake oil of the modern era. Want to lose weight, have more energy, grow hair, revitalize your sex life? Drink Dr. Incredijohn's Holistic Elixir!
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quote:
Originally posted by docmagik:
It's my understanding that caffine just blocks the receptors that your body signals to slow down your heart rate and relax you. That the "pep" has to come from something else, like tannic acid or some other substance.

In other words, that some other chemical has to get you going, and then when your body freaks out and tries to slow you down, the caffine blocks it.

Is this not correct?

Caffeine binds to adenosine receptors in the brain, but does not activate them. Adenosine, generally, inhibits brain activity. So the caffeine is blocking adenosine from binding to the receptors. It's my understanding that this leads to an increase in dopamine activity in the brain, though how that happens I forget.

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ETA for comparison: An 8 oz. cup of brewed coffee has about 100 mg. of caffeine
What that means is that the cup of coffee they tested had about 100mg of caffeine. This can vary quite drastically from cup to cup. For an 8oz cup, this could go anywhere from ~75mg - 150 mg, depending on how it's roasted and brewed.
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The White Whale
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Hence 'about.'
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Juxtapose
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I just wanted to emphasize how wide that variance can be.
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I'm interested to know what people's rationale/need is for these drinks. Is it an exceptionally long working day, a general lack of sleep, enough sleep but boring work, simply wanting that extra boost of zoom?

Sometimes if I'm not physically or mentally active enough in the afternoons I'll get tired. But if I'm teaching, or walking, or just getting home, I never have that effect.

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I think it is interesting that this paragraph is written twice on that webpage.
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The consumer assumes total liability if this product is used in a manner inconsistent with label guidelines. Do not use for weight reduction. KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN. Do not consume synepherine or caffeine from other sources, including but not limited to, coffee, tea, soda and other dietary supplements or medications containing phenylephrine or caffeine. Do not use for more than 8 weeks. Use of this product may cause your skin to be extra sensitive to UV sources, such as artificial or natural sunlight. Avoid excessive exposures from these sources. Discontinue use two weeks prior to surgery.

That's an awful lot of do nots! Especially considering that the people who most likely would drink this would also be likely to drink coffee, tea, soda, etc.
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AchillesHeel
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Can you imagine what redline would do to someone without the the resistance to caffeine that regular users have.

[ May 30, 2010, 07:08 AM: Message edited by: AchillesHeel ]

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Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
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