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Anybody know at what speed this show is supposed to go? How long until the TV show has caught up to the novels?
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That is a great question. Of course, I'm sure a big factor will be the aging of the child actors.
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They could probably split A Storm of Swords into a couple of seasons if they needed to wait for Martin. Possibly A Clash of Kings as well. Buy a little bit of time. Maybe he can give them his outlines for the rest of the series and they can just finish it up for him.
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I've got the first three books gathering dust on my shelves. They're a bit big to tackle while I'm in class, and I tackled Dune over the summer instead.
You guys will have to review the show when it comes out to let the rest of us know if it's worth watching.
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When does it start - and what's the best way to get it if some of us nontechnical people don't have a TV?
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quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: and I tackled Dune over the summer instead.
Hey, me too!
What'd you think of it?
I really, really liked Dune. Dune Messiah felt like filler, and then I liked Children of Dune a little more than Messiah. I haven't gotten to the fourth one yet, but it too is sitting on a shelf.
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I've read that it falls off a fair bit in the later books, and then the series passes from Herbert's hands entirely. I actually wasn't planning to go beyond the fourth one, but I already bought it, so I'll probably read it and hope it doesn't ruin the whole experience for me.
I won't ask what's so bad about the later books. I think I'd rather live in somewhat blissful ignorance.
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Wow that looks amazing. Here's hoping the writing and acting can be as good as the visuals, and do the books proper justice. I'm trying sooo hard not to get too excited about this... and failing. Miserably.
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quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: and I tackled Dune over the summer instead.
Hey, me too!
What'd you think of it?
I really, really liked Dune. Dune Messiah felt like filler, and then I liked Children of Dune a little more than Messiah. I haven't gotten to the fourth one yet, but it too is sitting on a shelf.
Oh, I only had time to nearly finish the first book, "Dune." I like it a lot, but I'm not sure if I'll go read the sequels.
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So I started reading "Game of Thrones" the night after reading this thread.
It's amazing! I tinkered with the first few pages a couple months ago but it didn't grab me. This time I read a couple hundred pages in a sitting and it totally sucked me in. What an emotional roller coaster. I've felt excited, sad, trepidation, vindication, and a million other things. At first I was leery of tackling such a long series, and now I'm thrilled there's so much more to read before the end!
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*random response from someone other than mr_porteiro_head*
As someone who has read all six, I'd say that I enjoyed the later three better than 2 and 3. I actually really enjoyed 5 and 6.
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quote:Originally posted by Kwea: If he ever bothers to write the damn ending, that is......I hate waiting for the last few books.
I almost wish I had not read them at this point. He will probably died before finishing them, and that will really suck.
Maybe Brandon Sanderson will be free to finish it off by then.
This is totally word of mouth so it could be a complete fabrication, BUT...
I heard that, unlike Jordan, he has asked (put in his will? Not sure. Like I said, heard it through a grapevine) that if he dies before ASoIaF is complete, his notes be destroyed and no one be allowed to finish the series. Makes me a little sad, if it's true.
Although ever since I read an interview where Martin talks about how uncomfortable it makes him feel when fans send him letters expressing their fear he may die before he finishes, I've tried to keep from speculating on it.
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It's possible that he's afraid that someone might kill him just to get Daniel Abraham to finish the series faster.
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I've never read Abraham. Is that a sterling endorsement of him? Or just an inside joke? If you actually think he's good enough to pick up Martin's series I'd better go buy one of the guy's books.
I've always liked Neil Gaiman's take on Martin's slow pace of writing.
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I think Abraham is good friends with Martin, maybe collaborated in the past with Wild Card (?). Abraham's work is pretty good. I thought fairly unique, good world building, interesting characters. I didn't think the style of writing was all that similar between the two, but it has been a bit since I have read them and I never read them together.
Anything published by Abraham since Long Price Quartet?
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Dan: it's a bit of an inside joke; Abraham is part of a writer's circle that includes Martin, and the two have worked together fairly often. But if you haven't read Abraham, you're seriously missing out. He's probably one of the best people working in the genre right now, and certainly capable of being merciless to his characters. I have no doubt that Abraham has the chops to finish ASoIaF, if provided with Martin's plot outlines.
Scholarette: You should definitely read the book he co-wrote with Martin, Hunter's Run. (And, in that vein, let's just say that there's a book coming out under a pseudonym that I'll be recommending very highly in a few months. )
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quote:Originally posted by Kwea: Maybe Brandon Sanderson will be free to finish it off by then.
Ugh. I hated the way Sanderson ended Mistborn. (I've never read any of Jordan's series so I have no opinion about Sanderson finishing that one!)
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I loved the first 3 Ice and Fire books, and felt tepid about the 4th - but for some reason I can't seem to get into them now that I'm re-reading them... it's frustrating.
And, I have to ask again, what would be the best way to get ahold of these episodes if one does not have HBO? I've heard there are a variety of websites out there that will sell episodes after they've aired, but I've never used any of them, and I'm not even sure what they are. Any ideas?
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You can wait for the DVDs to come out and rent on netflix. Free sources are not to be linked to on this website. Other than that I have no experience with watching not on HBO.
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I thought there were sites you could buy the episodes - not looking for free ones. Maybe I'm wrong....
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quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson: Dan: it's a bit of an inside joke; Abraham is part of a writer's circle that includes Martin, and the two have worked together fairly often. But if you haven't read Abraham, you're seriously missing out. He's probably one of the best people working in the genre right now, and certainly capable of being merciless to his characters. I have no doubt that Abraham has the chops to finish ASoIaF, if provided with Martin's plot outlines.
Scholarette: You should definitely read the book he co-wrote with Martin, Hunter's Run. (And, in that vein, let's just say that there's a book coming out under a pseudonym that I'll be recommending very highly in a few months. )
Gotcha. I'll look into his work, then.
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: I absolutely loved the ending to the Mistborn series.
I agree wholeheartedly. I thought the ending was darn near perfect.
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I just finished "Game of Thrones" and will be starting "A Clash of Kings" in a moment.
I'd love to know, what was everyone's favorite part of Game of Thrones, and what was their most gut-wrenching least favorite part? (by that I mean, not the part you hated, but the part that actually upset you because of your emotional attachment to the characters).
I'm hesitant to go looking for Song of Ice and Fire threads on Hatrack only because I don't want to be spoiled about anything that happens in the later books. I was absolutely shocked at how emotionally invested I was in the characters throughout the book, especially during moments of tragedy. I'm wondering how attached others were when they first read it.
I find I'm only somewhat annoyed, periodically, at the pace of the book. It's not so much that things move slowly, I love that there are half a dozen different plot threads moving simultaneously. I just hate it when only one or two characters know a vitally important fact, and then that fact never gets revealed to the others.
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: I just finished "Game of Thrones" and will be starting "A Clash of Kings" in a moment.
I'd love to know, what was everyone's favorite part of Game of Thrones, and what was their most gut-wrenching least favorite part? (by that I mean, not the part you hated, but the part that actually upset you because of your emotional attachment to the characters).
I'm hesitant to go looking for Song of Ice and Fire threads on Hatrack only because I don't want to be spoiled about anything that happens in the later books. I was absolutely shocked at how emotionally invested I was in the characters throughout the book, especially during moments of tragedy. I'm wondering how attached others were when they first read it.
I find I'm only somewhat annoyed, periodically, at the pace of the book. It's not so much that things move slowly, I love that there are half a dozen different plot threads moving simultaneously. I just hate it when only one or two characters know a vitally important fact, and then that fact never gets revealed to the others.
Anyway, please share.
First of all, I know what you mean about the vitally important facts unrevealed to people that should know. So tantalizingly frustrating!
Second of all, SPOILERS FOR A GAME OF THRONES! Okay? If you somehow haven't read it yet, for pete's sake STOP HERE!
Most gut-wrenching: For me it was, predictably, Ned's death. I loved Ned. I thought of him as the closest thing to a true protagonist in the book. I absolutely love tired old guys as protagonists. It was hard to believe he was really dead. When Sansa is presented with his head... I could see it with her, and it made me sick. I still have a hard time reading that area of the book, and I've read it several times.
Favorite is much, much harder to pin down. So many great parts to choose from. I think I'm going to think about it for a while.
How about you, Lyrhawn?
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I thought for sure he was dead when his power play against Cersei failed. When I found out he really wasn't I was ecstatic, and then to have him killed again ripped my heart out. It came in two parts for me though. For the first half of the book, my biggest gut-wrencher was Bran being pushed out of the window by Jaime. It was ridiculously sad. I'm still crossing my fingers that somehow he gets his legs back.
I think perhaps the only thing more sad than Ned being killed (with his own sword!) was finding out that it was Sansa that told Cersei bits of Eddard's plans to make for Winterfell. I think that, as well as others in the Court, certainly, was a big part of why his move went awry. Add to that the way she's being forced to go along with everything, and the resigned way in which she does it, contrasted with Arya, man, it's really depressing.
Favorite moment is hard to pin down for me too. Any time one of the direwolves saves one of the kids I cheered. I loved it when Robb's army crushed the Lannisters in front of Riverrun. But I think I was the most relieved when Jon went back to the Wall. I was crushed when he decided to leave, but part of me knew it couldn't last because the plot thread in the north was too strong to have our only link to it ride south. But I loved that he went back, and that he realized he needed to stay there.
With Ned gone, Jon is probably my favorite character.
I'm really looking forward to, or at least I hope this actually happens, Arya and Sansa reuniting at some point in the near future. I care less about their storyline than others, but I love how they both really need to grow up but in completely different ways. Sansa needs to grow a spine and drop the naivete. Arya needs to learn patience and self-discipline.
I tried to explain the basic plot of the book to a co-worker last night and after about ten minutes of explaining I realized how much I was leaving out and stopped and said "look, you just have to read it." I have to say though, I'm a little leery of the idea that this is supposed to be a SEVEN book series. I didn't know that until a couple hours ago. I figured the fifth awaited book was the last.
::goes off to spend the last half hour before bed time reading Book II::
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It's so hard to talk to you because you've only read the first book. Every time I start to reply I realize I'm toeing the line of spoilers for a later book. Aaagghh!!!
I just finished re-reading the series a few weeks ago, so everything is still very fresh in my mind. Post your thoughts on the next one, midway through or finished, I don't care. It's great seeing someone experiencing it for the first time!
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I really like Dany and was extremely happy when she stood up to Viserys. I was crushed when she lost her baby and Drogo died. I'm really looking forward to seeing what she does in the next book.
I also hated it when Arya and Sansa lost their direwolves.
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quote:Originally posted by DDDaysh: And, I have to ask again, what would be the best way to get ahold of these episodes if one does not have HBO? I've heard there are a variety of websites out there that will sell episodes after they've aired, but I've never used any of them, and I'm not even sure what they are. Any ideas?
I don't think HBO tends to make its series available online while the shows are airing. I think that's part of their marketing to encourage people to buy the channel.
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I really like Dany and was extremely happy when she stood up to Viserys. I was crushed when she lost her baby and Drogo died. I'm really looking forward to seeing what she does in the next book.
I also hated it when Arya and Sansa lost their direwolves.
I'm still hoping that Arya gets outside the city and Nymeria comes back to her somehow.
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I'm hoping for lots of stuff. I'm hoping Arya finds Nymeria and makes it back to Winterfell. I'm hoping Sansa stabs Joffrey in his sleep. I'm hoping Bran walks again. I'm hoping Benjen is still alive and they find him. I'm hoping Robb can defend the north (I was ecstatic when they broke away). I'm hoping that Tyrion ends up being a force for good in the end.
There's so much going on that I've lost track of all my hopes.
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When terrible things happen to characters I love, it really emphasizes how much I care for the characters, so, I appreciate how powerful it is to make me feel that way. On the other hand, SOMETHING good has to happen, and some hopes have to pay off, otherwise, why bother finishing it?
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Hope is a good thing. Concerning ASoIaF, though, Lyrhawn...I won't tell if you that's a practical or a simply academic statement:)
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