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Jeff C.
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We all have them, so what are yours? I'm not talking about when someone coughs behind you in line at the supermarket or anything like that. I'm talking about the internet. What bothers you guys the most about the way people act/react when you're online?

I've only got a few things, but here's my list:

-People who respond to an article/post/blog with a spelling or grammatical correction and nothing else, thereby contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion. It happens all the time on places like IGN and Cracked, or pretty much anywhere that allows for user discussion.

-Advertisements on something I'm paying to watch. Seriously, if I'm paying you money, why do I need to watch a commercial about the new Ford F-150 and how awesome you say it is?

-Facebook pictures with sayings in them.

[Grumble]

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Comparing persons or actions to rape and or nazi's. It desensitizes the horror of both and shows a general lack of maturity.

User names with XXX or various 1337 spellings of assassin or sniper.

Farmville.

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Nerd rant: (directed at facebook friends i guess, though some people in real life too)

I don't want to see some random meme you've just discovered for the first time. Why don't you think of an original joke or have something to say that is an actual contribution! Stop leaning on unoriginal caricatures that can be vaguely attributed to our situation. At this point I'm even sick of the clever ones!

[ February 16, 2012, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: LargeTuna ]

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Email forwards. Frankly the only thing email should be used for any more is order confirmations and business.
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Using an apostrophe to pluralize 'Nazi', while dropping the capital letter. It's almost as bad as the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre.
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People who complain about "spelling or grammatical correction" without making any spelling or grammatical errors, thus denying everyone else the chance to ironically correct their post.
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quote:
Originally posted by Stephan:
Email forwards. Frankly the only thing email should be used for any more is order confirmations and business.

These are the only things I use it for. I have transitioned all other correspondence to Facebook or texting. I treat anti-networking Luddites like I treated people who didn't "do" email. I'm not gonna post you a letter for 48 cents because you don't dane to touch a keyboard or use a smartphone. And I'm not gonna deal with cross-talk between 15 people I don't need to talk to junking up my email folder.
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quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
...you don't dane to touch a keyboard or use a smartphone.

It's deign.

Thank you.

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Autocorrect, sadly.

But actually I was complaining that so few people act Danish.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dobbie:
People who complain about "spelling or grammatical correction" without making any spelling or grammatical errors, thus denying everyone else the chance to ironically correct their post.

Lol, I knew someone was going to try it. [Wink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
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Originally posted by Stephan:
Email forwards. Frankly the only thing email should be used for any more is order confirmations and business.

These are the only things I use it for. I have transitioned all other correspondence to Facebook or texting. I treat anti-networking Luddites like I treated people who didn't "do" email. I'm not gonna post you a letter for 48 cents because you don't dane to touch a keyboard or use a smartphone. And I'm not gonna deal with cross-talk between 15 people I don't need to talk to junking up my email folder.
My internet pet peeve is whenever I start feeling like I need a continuous feed of new information and entertainment. If I feel like I'm getting to that point I'll usually take a hiatus.

I like the asynchronous nature of email. It fits into my communication comfort zone. It can be as personal as a letter or strictly business, but it doesn't demand an immediate response.

I treat people who only want texts fairly uniformly--if I need to talk to them, I'll call them. Gives them a chance to rest their fingers.

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Jeff, spelling it "Lol" is basically never acceptable unless you're saying it's just a word now. In which case I think the accepted spelling would be "lawl" (or "Lawl" if it begins a sentence, as yours did). Spelled "lol" it should probably be appropriately capitalized as an acronym, or left all lower-case to stay true to its non-capitalized net-slang roots. You've raped my eyes with your misuse of the acronym. I'm so upset that I'll be posting a letter to Orincoro about it later, believe me.

I'm actually not sure what my own peeves would be.

I mean, most of these are pretty good, but they don't really bother me. Pedantic corrections are just sort of amusing, to me. I roll my eyes at Nazi references, generally, but they don't make me flip out and they're hardly exclusive to the internet anyway.

I'm a little disdainful of excessive "net speak" type stuff (especially 1337) but a good friend of mine works as a coder and in his spare time types thousands of words a day. He suffers from pretty bad repetitive stress, and often uses lots of abbreviations when discussing stuff that is not business related. Sure, it's a little odd to see someone discussing philosophy with abbreviations like "u" and "ppl" but I've gotten used to it.

I absolutely use email for stuff other than business and order confirmations, too, but I'm on several email lists and my parents occasionally manage to email, so that's the main reason. For individual communication with people capable of responding, I agree with Orincoro that texting is more efficient.

I think my biggest internet pet peeve is people that get really bent out of shape over the internet. It seems like, because of the layer of removal from the people they interact with, many folks are more liable to fly off the handle for relatively minor "insults" in ways I doubt they do in real life. It's annoying, and seems so unnecessary, since (unlike in real life!) we always have the option of walking away with zero repercussions and no way for the offending person to follow us. Seems like people would be *calmer* and *more civil*, but it rarely works out that way.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dan_Frank:
Jeff, spelling it "Lol" is basically never acceptable unless you're saying it's just a word now. In which case I think the accepted spelling would be "lawl" (or "Lawl" if it begins a sentence, as yours did). Spelled "lol" it should probably be appropriately capitalized as an acronym, or left all lower-case to stay true to its non-capitalized net-slang roots. You've raped my eyes with your misuse of the acronym. I'm so upset that I'll be posting a letter to Orincoro about it later, believe me.

Lol
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Subtly poking fun at my trans-Atlantic English as well.


As someone with a hybridized vocabulary and accent, one of my pet peeves is people (chiefly Brits) "correcting" my perfectly acceptable grammatical or lexical choices.

For instance, the government "is" not "are," or "We've gotten a lot of snow," not "we've had a lot of snow."

Gotten freaking works as a past participle in that sentence where got wouldn't, dammit!

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Originally posted by advice for robots:
I like the asynchronous nature of email. It fits into my communication comfort zone. It can be as personal as a letter or strictly business, but it doesn't demand an immediate response.

I treat people who only want texts fairly uniformly--if I need to talk to them, I'll call them. Gives them a chance to rest their fingers.

Well said, and I agree entirely.
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan_Frank:


I think my biggest internet pet peeve is people that get really bent out of shape over the internet. It seems like, because of the layer of removal from the people they interact with, many folks are more liable to fly off the handle for relatively minor "insults" in ways I doubt they do in real life. It's annoying, and seems so unnecessary, since (unlike in real life!) we always have the option of walking away with zero repercussions and no way for the offending person to follow us. Seems like people would be *calmer* and *more civil*, but it rarely works out that way.

Which is more likely to bark, the dog behind the fence, or the dog on the street?
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quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
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Originally posted by Dan_Frank:


I think my biggest internet pet peeve is people that get really bent out of shape over the internet. It seems like, because of the layer of removal from the people they interact with, many folks are more liable to fly off the handle for relatively minor "insults" in ways I doubt they do in real life. It's annoying, and seems so unnecessary, since (unlike in real life!) we always have the option of walking away with zero repercussions and no way for the offending person to follow us. Seems like people would be *calmer* and *more civil*, but it rarely works out that way.

Which is more likely to bark, the dog behind the fence, or the dog on the street?
Which one is more likely to chase you? [Dont Know]
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As someone with a hybridized vocabulary and accent, one of my pet peeves is people (chiefly Brits) "correcting" my perfectly acceptable grammatical or lexical choices.
Since most British people barely speak in a textbook grammatical fashion anyway, correcting other native speakers seems a bizarre pastime.

But then, I've been told by Americans that no-one says 'shan't' and that 'had/have got' is incorrect. So horses for courses.

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I think the Internet meme thing has gotten a little bit excessively silly.

I'm annoyed that the relatively subtle concept of a meme is now obscured by the definition "slightly amusing thing that people keep repeating on the Internet for slight amusement."

Also, either I've lost my sense of humor or most of the jokes people try to make with these things aren't actually funny.

There's a thing I'm seeing a lot of right now - "BYU memes" (I have a lot of LDS and Utah facebook friends). What this appears to consist of is taking stuff from memebase and superimposing some BYU-related cultural reference.

The problem is that they aren't funny. Here is an example. There is no joke. Free food at Family Home Evening - yes, that sounds like BYU. It is not funny.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bella Bee:
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As someone with a hybridized vocabulary and accent, one of my pet peeves is people (chiefly Brits) "correcting" my perfectly acceptable grammatical or lexical choices.
Since most British people barely speak in a textbook grammatical fashion anyway, correcting other native speakers seems a bizarre pastime.

But then, I've been told by Americans that no-one says 'shan't' and that 'had/have got' is incorrect. So horses for courses.

I take it those Americans haven't got a lovely bunch of coconuts, then. Must be sad, being them.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jeff C.:
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Originally posted by Orincoro:
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Originally posted by Dan_Frank:


I think my biggest internet pet peeve is people that get really bent out of shape over the internet. It seems like, because of the layer of removal from the people they interact with, many folks are more liable to fly off the handle for relatively minor "insults" in ways I doubt they do in real life. It's annoying, and seems so unnecessary, since (unlike in real life!) we always have the option of walking away with zero repercussions and no way for the offending person to follow us. Seems like people would be *calmer* and *more civil*, but it rarely works out that way.

Which is more likely to bark, the dog behind the fence, or the dog on the street?
Which one is more likely to chase you? [Dont Know]
Actually, most dogs don't chase you if you don't run.

I think you've got a great point, Orincoro. Also reminds me of an old Penny Arcade comic about the cloak of anonymity the internet provides turning regular decent people into ****wads.

Still, humans aren't dogs. We have the capacity to make decisions about our actions in a way that dogs can't, so it's sad that so few people choose to act in a reasonable way when someone on the internet says something that offends them.

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quote:
Originally posted by scifibum:
I think the Internet meme thing has gotten a little bit excessively silly.

I'm annoyed that the relatively subtle concept of a meme is now obscured by the definition "slightly amusing thing that people keep repeating on the Internet for slight amusement."

Also, either I've lost my sense of humor or most of the jokes people try to make with these things aren't actually funny.

There's a thing I'm seeing a lot of right now - "BYU memes" (I have a lot of LDS and Utah facebook friends). What this appears to consist of is taking stuff from memebase and superimposing some BYU-related cultural reference.

The problem is that they aren't funny. Here is an example. There is no joke. Free food at Family Home Evening - yes, that sounds like BYU. It is not funny.

Yeah, I've seen plenty that make me chuckle, but for the most part they are more of a "get out of my head" sort of non-joke, where the "humor" is just relying on the fact that it will semi-accurately reflect the lives of X niche of viewers who will feel a visceral connection and mistake that for an actual joke.

Except for man-babies and birds-with-arms. Those two, when the photoshops are done sufficiently well, are legitimately funny and/or horrifying.

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quote:
Originally posted by scifibum:

The problem is that they aren't funny. Here is an example. There is no joke. Free food at Family Home Evening - yes, that sounds like BYU. It is not funny.

I've been seeing a lot of this other meme around the internet lately. It seemed original the first time, but after about twelve of them I wanted to smack someone.
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Jeff: Yeah, I had a laugh at a couple libertarian versions of those (Republicans think they're stoners, Democrats think they're the Monopoly businessman, they think they're Mal Reynolds and/or the Founding Fathers, and what they really do is sit at a computer and face-palm all day).

And one about coding that subverted the normal meme (all the entries were just the same picture of a guy coding, except what they think they do, which was Michaelangelo's Creation of Adam, and what they really do, which was a picture of the guy making the meme I was reading).

I laughed at those, but I'm pretty sure that for the most part I just laughed because I "got" them, and so they appealed to me.

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As a side note "gotten" was once a past participle of the verb "to get" on both sides of the Atlantic, but now only Americans use it. It's handy, though. [Smile]

On a personal pet peeve note, I'm going to throw my vote in for email forwards.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeff C.:
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Originally posted by scifibum:

The problem is that they aren't funny. Here is an example. There is no joke. Free food at Family Home Evening - yes, that sounds like BYU. It is not funny.

I've been seeing a lot of this other meme around the internet lately. It seemed original the first time, but after about twelve of them I wanted to smack someone.
Yes, this illustrates the problem. No, your non-band "frineds" do not think you make out all the time. And the last three panels are barely discernable from each other. So what's the joke?
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quote:
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Originally posted by Jeff C.:
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Originally posted by scifibum:

The problem is that they aren't funny. Here is an example. There is no joke. Free food at Family Home Evening - yes, that sounds like BYU. It is not funny.

I've been seeing a lot of this other meme around the internet lately. It seemed original the first time, but after about twelve of them I wanted to smack someone.
Yes, this illustrates the problem. No, your non-band "frineds" do not think you make out all the time. And the last three panels are barely discernable from each other. So what's the joke?
Found this. Somebody made one about how redundant this joke has become.
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Someone should do one about jumping the shark.
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Jeff that was pretty hilarious.

Because I'm fed up with that meme, so it has a visceral connec— gah I give up!

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spellings of assassin or sniper.

Woah woah woah lets not be hasty.
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Jeff that was pretty hilarious.

Because I'm fed up with that meme, so it has a visceral connec— gah I give up!

[ROFL]
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quote:
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Originally posted by AchillesHeel:

spellings of assassin or sniper.

Woah woah woah lets not be hasty.
He wasn't.

In fact, I'd say his pace was very measured. Maybe even ponderous.

I'd go so far as to say 1337 spellings of anything are pretty stupid.

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quote:
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The problem is that they aren't funny. Here is an example. There is no joke. Free food at Family Home Evening - yes, that sounds like BYU. It is not funny.

I think that's every Halestorm Entertainment comedy in a nutshell.
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I have only a few internet pet peeves, but one of my greatest is people assuming that everyone has Facebook and linking to content that is inaccessible to those of us without it.

Also, rage comics. Holy crap, I am sick of those.

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quote:
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one of my greatest is people assuming that everyone has Facebook and linking to content that is inaccessible to those of us without it.

YES!
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spellings of assassin or sniper.

Woah woah woah lets not be hasty.
He wasn't.

In fact, I'd say his pace was very measured. Maybe even ponderous.

I'd go so far as to say 1337 spellings of anything are pretty stupid.

I understand j00.
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When I finally get used to a website's new look and can navigate around it easily and then changes again making me start the learning process all over again.
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quote:
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Originally posted by Carrie:
one of my greatest is people assuming that everyone has Facebook and linking to content that is inaccessible to those of us without it.

YES!
Well, okay, but it is a totally free service that you don't actually have to put personal information into if you don't want to. So, if that's where the content someone finds interesting is, it doesn't seem that unreasonable for them to link to it.

But if you ask for an alternate link and they have one and they give you crap instead just to be a butt then I can see your point.

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quote:
Originally posted by Carrie:

Also, rage comics. Holy crap, I am sick of those.

Yeah, every time I see one, I'm like
FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU....

[Mad]

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Dan, I'm not going to debate the evilness of FB with you. That wasn't my point, and I doubt it was Carrie's.

When I link to a story on a subscription site, I include a warning, whether it's a free subscription or a pay one. (Except if I do so accidentally thinking it's public, and then I would add the note once I found out.) Most people using FB links don't do so.

Also, frequently it's not really FB content at all, it's external content they saw on FB. It's not very difficult to use the external link instead of the FB one, but many FB users don't bother. Even for FB-specific content, in some cases it's possible to make a link accessible to non-FB folks (my SIL does this with pictures of my nieces and sends me links).

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quote:
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Originally posted by Jeff C.:
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Originally posted by scifibum:

The problem is that they aren't funny. Here is an example. There is no joke. Free food at Family Home Evening - yes, that sounds like BYU. It is not funny.

I've been seeing a lot of this other meme around the internet lately. It seemed original the first time, but after about twelve of them I wanted to smack someone.
Yes, this illustrates the problem. No, your non-band "frineds" do not think you make out all the time. And the last three panels are barely discernable from each other. So what's the joke?
Well, to someone in a marching band, the bottom left panel is certainly discernible from the bottom center and bottom right. But most examples of this meme or only amusing (and slightly) to those who are targeted. Hence why we are annoyed when dozens pop up on our social networking feed that have nothing to do with our daily lives.
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quote:
Originally posted by scifibum:
I think the Internet meme thing has gotten a little bit excessively silly.

I'm annoyed that the relatively subtle concept of a meme is now obscured by the definition "slightly amusing thing that people keep repeating on the Internet for slight amusement."

Also, either I've lost my sense of humor or most of the jokes people try to make with these things aren't actually funny.

There's a thing I'm seeing a lot of right now - "BYU memes" (I have a lot of LDS and Utah facebook friends). What this appears to consist of is taking stuff from memebase and superimposing some BYU-related cultural reference.

The problem is that they aren't funny. Here is an example. There is no joke. Free food at Family Home Evening - yes, that sounds like BYU. It is not funny.

BYU alumni do have a tradition of not being funny.
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Originally posted by rivka:
Dan, I'm not going to debate the evilness of FB with you. That wasn't my point, and I doubt it was Carrie's.

When I link to a story on a subscription site, I include a warning, whether it's a free subscription or a pay one. (Except if I do so accidentally thinking it's public, and then I would add the note once I found out.) Most people using FB links don't do so.

Yeah, I see what you mean. That makes sense.

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Originally posted by rivka:
Also, frequently it's not really FB content at all, it's external content they saw on FB. It's not very difficult to use the external link instead of the FB one, but many FB users don't bother. Even for FB-specific content, in some cases it's possible to make a link accessible to non-FB folks (my SIL does this with pictures of my nieces and sends me links).

Right, this could also be annoying.
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I CAN'T STAND WHEN PPL RITE STUF ALL IN CAPS W ABUCNH OF WEIRD ABR. AN DSPELLING ERORS AND STUFF, LIKE ALOTT!

Also, "Lol" is hard on the eyes, I prefer "LoL".

And one last thing: I strongly dislike when people don't capitalize the first letter of a sentence. **coughSamprimarycough**

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Actually, regarding linking to FB, it's very easy to avoid it if the poster knows what they're doing. Well, as far as pictures go, anyway. All you really have to do is directly copy the URL of the picture and then just post that. Unfortunately, most people post the link to the page containing the picture, and that's where the problem comes in.

This alternate method is actually a back-door for non-members and non-friends to access your pictures, and it has been brought up by many people and never resolved or (as far as I'm aware) even addressed.

For examples of what I'm talking about, the three links in the first post are all from facebook.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dan_Frank:
Actually, most dogs don't chase you if you don't run.

...because they are too busy eating you.
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Originally posted by Speed:
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Originally posted by Dan_Frank:
Actually, most dogs don't chase you if you don't run.

...because they are too busy eating you.
It would be sort of pointless to chase you if you weren't running, yes. [Razz]
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Originally posted by Bella Bee:
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As someone with a hybridized vocabulary and accent, one of my pet peeves is people (chiefly Brits) "correcting" my perfectly acceptable grammatical or lexical choices.
Since most British people barely speak in a textbook grammatical fashion anyway, correcting other native speakers seems a bizarre pastime.

But then, I've been told by Americans that no-one says 'shan't' and that 'had/have got' is incorrect. So horses for courses.

I used to have people casually tell me that saying something like "pickles" was wrong, because "we invented the language," during the time that I lived in England. other times, I was flatly told that I didn't speak a language at all but rather "slang." what response is there to that kind of insult? It goes rather beyond silly naive ignorance.

Thing about the English: they're just as likely to be mistaken as anyone else, but dammit, they're sure as anything that theyre right about everything.

It was an experience I had several times in and around my college (a dormitory):

Me: Hi, I'm so and so, nice to meet you.

Girl: I'm Katie

Me: Katie, nice name.

Katie: (sarcastically): Not so nice of you say it like that: "Kay-DEEE"

Me: Is there something wrong?

Katie: no, aside from the fact that you can't speak English.

Me: (leaving) it was nice to meet you! maybe one day you'll make a friend.


I don't blame the English in general for this behavior, but I do think it is something you wouldn't hear an educated American saying. I was never deeply hurt by these sorts of exchanges, but I did gain a better sense of what "class" and all that was really about.

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quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
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Originally posted by Bella Bee:
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As someone with a hybridized vocabulary and accent, one of my pet peeves is people (chiefly Brits) "correcting" my perfectly acceptable grammatical or lexical choices.
Since most British people barely speak in a textbook grammatical fashion anyway, correcting other native speakers seems a bizarre pastime.

But then, I've been told by Americans that no-one says 'shan't' and that 'had/have got' is incorrect. So horses for courses.

I used to have people casually tell me that saying something like "pickles" was wrong, because "we invented the language," during the time that I lived in England. other times, I was flatly told that I didn't speak a language at all but rather "slang." what response is there to that kind of insult? It goes rather beyond silly naive ignorance.

Thing about the English: they're just as likely to be mistaken as anyone else, but dammit, they're sure as anything that theyre right about everything.

It was an experience I had several times in and around my college (a dormitory):

Me: Hi, I'm so and so, nice to meet you.

Girl: I'm Katie

Me: Katie, nice name.

Katie: (sarcastically): Not so nice of you say it like that: "Kay-DEEE"

Me: Is there something wrong?

Katie: no, aside from the fact that you can't speak English.

Me: (leaving) it was nice to meet you! maybe one day you'll make a friend.


I don't blame the English in general for this behavior, but I do think it is something you wouldn't hear an educated American saying. I was never deeply hurt by these sorts of exchanges, but I did gain a better sense of what "class" and all that was really about.

I can understand where you are coming from, but there are people out there who speak English so badly that it sounds like somebody ran a lawnmower over their face. This language has since been called Ebonics, and it is almost an entirely different language from the average American or British English dialects.

But from what you're saying, it doesn't sound like you speak that way. It just sounds like you probably have a slight accent, which can't be helped. After all, Australians have very thick accents and we accept it as just being the way they are because they don't "break" the language or anything, and we can still understand them. If someone spazzes out over the way you say a single letter, maybe they have other issues going on. When you start confusing words, mixing up letters (i.e. "Aks" instead of "Ask"), or you never learned how to properly form a grammatically correct sentence("Dat phat kid don't know nuthin bout dis, mah momma ain't raise no fool!"), then it's both your own fault as well as the education system's.

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