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Samprimary
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/02/why-oklahoma-lawmakers-want-to-ban-ap-us-history.html

No tl;dr necessary, just read it

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...students in Jefferson County protestedlast fall when a school-board member said the course should be modified to promote "patriotism" and discourage "civil disorder, social strife, or disregard of the law."
If, historically speaking, Americans had no disregard of bad laws or civil disorder than we would still be British, have no female vote & segregation would still be around.
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We're careening very quickly toward a science fiction novel dystopian future.

It's about time. I'd begun to think Mad Max wouldn't happen in my life time.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
We're careening very quickly toward a science fiction novel dystopian future.

so stop driving into the midwest
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heyoooooooooo

but no seriously

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Krieger complained that the framework portrays the Founding Fathers as "bigots" and suggests that Manifest Destiny was "built on a belief in white racial superiority and a sense of American cultural superiority," rather than "the belief that America had a mission to spread democracy and new technology across the continent," as he put it. And instead of discussing the "the valor or heroism of American soldiers" during World War II, the course outline mentions U.S. internment camps and moral questions raised by the dropping of the atomic bomb.
this is not from the onion

he literally just wants america to remain ignorant of the reality of boosterism among other things

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...America had a mission to spread democracy and new technology across the continent," 
Here ya go native Americans...here is some of our advanced technology...bullets, smallpox & alcoholisum...what?...in exchange?...everything...no?...not interested?...to effing bad. This is democratic...we voted we wanted your land & y'all dead. Didn't you get your ballets?
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There should be a word for the kind of reverse political correctness pushed by conservatives. Heaven forbid we teach kids the facts and ask them to think critically about those facts, because it might offend someone.
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More like loose votes in the years to come...because you have to start the brain white wash when they are young. Just like smoking.
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The other side of the coin from overly politically correct, perhaps-things like racism, sexism, xenophobia, and jingoism. Show 281 of the podcast 'Common Sense' goes into some detail about this matter. It felt like longer ago to me, I guess.
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jin·go·ism
ˈjiNGɡōˌizəm/
nounderogatory
extreme patriotism, especially in the form of aggressive or warlike foreign policy.

Had to look it up. Good one.
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Here's another great example of reverse political correctness (this time it's Florida vs. science).
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It's one of those hard to remember amendments he's messing with...right...the ones in double digits...no, that's right...it's the effing FIRST ONE!!!
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Boy:
There should be a word for the kind of reverse political correctness pushed by conservatives. Heaven forbid we teach kids the facts and ask them to think critically about those facts, because it might offend someone.

Let's make up that word right now.

Ideological correctness

Cheerleader history

Westory

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I have a better word...lies.
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That's already taken.
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Still works tho.
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But if you are committed to a new phrase how about..."white-washing history"?
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quote:
Originally posted by JanitorBlade:
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Boy:
There should be a word for the kind of reverse political correctness pushed by conservatives. Heaven forbid we teach kids the facts and ask them to think critically about those facts, because it might offend someone.

Let's make up that word right now.

Ideological correctness

Cheerleader history

Westory

doubleplusfacts
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I think it's been discussed elsewhere, but really there's no need for new words for this sort of thing. Racism, nationalism, anti-intellectualism, and xenophobia all work just fine when a politician endorses a policy of scrubbing those things out of our history.

I could *maybe* begin to accept that that didn't necessarily mean that that behavior was racist, but it's not like they wish to remove these things and make no further value adjustment to the curricula. Instead, they want to remove the bad and make up the good-obvious propaganda.

When propaganda is geared toward the advancement of one group at the expense of another, well we've got words for that already.

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historical truthiness
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