quote:they've got to start making a nude for non-white women.
What colour is your skin?
For that matter, what is your ancestry (ethinc heritage? What's the proper way of asking "What part of the globe do your ancestors come from?")
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I hope you can get the surgery paid for. I know what a burden the big boobs are, but I think you have it much worse than me.
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mph, you can just say "What are you?" I've totally gotten that before.
I am half-Creole. After a week in Florida, I'm way more tan than usual, but if I had to assign an actual color, it would probably be somewhere around caramel latte. *shrug* I'm not real dark, but most of the undergarments I've seen that are supposedly nude are a weird yellow color or, like, a really light tan. Actually, thinking about it, if nude bras and nude pantyhose switched colors, I think the world in general would be a better place.
romany, I know I don't have it as bad as some women do, but I also know I shouldn't have to live like this, so I will fight if I have to.
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Caramel latte -- remember, you are talking to Mormon Boy here. I don't know what color that is, but I assume it's somewhere between white and dark dark brown.
But that's OK, you gave me enough information. Posts: 16551 | Registered: Feb 2003
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I'm really proud of you for working towards something that will help make you happier. I've had friends that have had breast reduction surgery and if my mom didn't have such problems with surgery she would have it done. I really hope you can get your insurance to pay for it. It really is a problem and having it taken care of will save you from having bad back problems, besides making you happy.
I know just what you mean about your claustrophobia - I'm the same way. Small spaces don't bug me, but being restrained or somehow not able to move if I wanted to does. And I share some of your frustration in bra/clothes shopping though I have the opposite problem you do. You are not alone! Posts: 5879 | Registered: Apr 2001
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Thanks, lud. I do have the back problems, but I've gotten so used to them, I barely notice. And here I thought it was just bad posture. Posts: 1090 | Registered: Oct 2003
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But it surprised me -- in that all that time I spent with you at Kamacon, I didn't know you were half Creole or any such thing. I thought you were just as caucasian as me or anyone else..
[ removed this photo link, in preference for the one two posts down ]
I guess I just don't pay attention very well.
I think that if the surgery is what you really want, then go for it. I'm not so small myself, and now that I am over 40, let me tell you, dearie, they are getting closer to my waistline all the time, which is sad. And it is hard to consistently remind myself to stand up straight, because when you are top-heavy there is a tendency to slump. So I can definately understand in your case (since you're larger than me) why you are considering this.
But how small would such a surgery make you? Do you get to specify a size?
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Thanks, FG. I'm pretty sure you can choose to some degree. I am shooting for a C. I think that is realistic and reasonable. I'm not really sure about any of that yet, until I see the surgeon. That won't be until probably January.
[edit: btw, I hate how I look in that picture. I will have to post a newer one soon.]
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Well, I agree I didn't find a photo of you there I really liked. Except maybe this one where you are on the far right. Maybe I should look at Mad Owl's KamaCon photos -- she shoots such good people pictures.
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That one is better. The only good one is the close up b&w of me and kwsni (I think). I will get on getting a better one up. Cuz, you know, I'm such a hottie. Posts: 1090 | Registered: Oct 2003
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My very best friend got an anti-boob job and has been happier and healthier ever since. Don't be embarrased about it - there's nothing shameful or anything about it. Good for you!
Some day maybe I will share my breast woes, if I'm very very brave. Probably not, though. Posts: 8504 | Registered: Aug 1999
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I have heard that the cosmetic surgery with the highest satisfaction is breast reduction, and the one with the lowest is breast augmentation.
I tend to have the opposite problem. I have a big ribcage and bra designers assume that if you are a 38 that you have more fat I do and have a bigger chest. It was rather humiliating to go prom dress shopping and have the sales lady tell me to stuff my bra.
I hope that the surgery goes well for you. You are a brave woman for doing something.
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quote:Originally posted by fiazko: Apparently it's a law that if your breasts are that big, you must be pretty big around. Lies. All lies. And their regular clothes do not usually fit my personal style. Most of them make me feel fatter than I am.
Preach it, sister. I am not as big as you, but I also have that problem. If it fits in the bust, it's too big everywhere else. If it fits everywhere else, I can't get a boob in it.
My sister has had some success in the past with getting pretty, larger cup bras from the Victoria Secret catalog. She talked about breast reduction surgery when she was younger, but I think she decided she didn't want to spend the money on it.
Good luck with getting the surgery worked out.
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((((fiazko)))) you are my hero, you said almost exactly what I've wanted to say for a year, not just on hatrack, but at all. I'm a 36DD, and wear size twelve jeans, so not quite as big as you, but it's still incredibly hard to shop, I have found a few at VS that fit. My mom and I have talked, and I don't really want to have breast reduction now because I at some point do want to breastfeed my (prospective) kids, and they can't garuntee that would be possible.
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Fiazko, I want to tell you that I really enjoyed your landmark. You took an issue that was somewhat painful for you and informed and entertained us. You have a knack for levity that doesn't downplay the (if you'll forgive the pun) gravity of the situation. I wish you the best in your pursuit of relief.
I, also, didn't notice that your had really large breasts and thanks for setting a bomb for me if we ever should meet again. Posts: 2022 | Registered: Mar 2004
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A coworker had an anti-boob job a few months back and is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO happy that she did!
She started out as a large 38DD and had them reduced to a mid-range C cup. She had a lot of back pain prior to the surgery, which was the main reason that she went for it. Post-op recovery was 3 weeks of no work at all (she discovered that she also couldn't cross stitch, so much for her plan to make a baby sampler during her convalescence) and then an additional week of working half-time to ease back into the routine.
Because of the back pain issues, our major medical covered the procedure, minus her deductible. You already mentioned anticipating that your insurance company would attempt to deny based on weight, so obviously you've already checked into coverage issues.
Personally I wish I could shift everything about 6 inches to the north...
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I DID notice your complexion and that it's a great one, but didn't think about ancestry (my current generation has kids of half everythings, so our complexions vary to a HUGE degree).
Anyrate. I hope this reduction happens for you--it sounds like it'll improve your living a whole lot.
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Clothes designers really do need to wise up. I'm only a mid-range C, and even I have a hard time finding blouses that don't bunch. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places.
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Good luck, fiazko. I guess I'm lucky in that so far I've had the muscle and bulk to support my DDs, but I feel you where bras are concerned. It's not as hard to find, since I'm a 38, but I tend to stick with one or two and not shop, that's for sure.
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Well, as a guy I can't really contribute anything to the boobular part of the landmark.
But I can sympathize on marching with a bari sax!
I only did it for a year then went back to the Tenor, my true love. There was a girl two years younger than me who did it after I stopped. She was probably 5 foot, the bari was almost taller than she was, but she played it probably better than I did.
You're to be commended on your dedication to the band! Woo Marching Band!
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I've also thought about the anti-boob job, and had doctors tell me to lose weight and the boobs would be fine. Eh. Whatever. I'd be happy at a C. Oh yeah.
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Quid, the doctors lie. I have an average weight for my height (still would like to lose one or two kg...) and I am a 90E (would be a I don't know what DD for USA sizes I think).
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Of course the doctors lie. I'm well aware of that. But convincing them to act despite the lie . . . aye, there's the rub!
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My doctor has been pretty cool about the whole thing. Her main concern was the breastfeeding issue, but I don't really want to bear children. Once I convinced her of that, she got behind me. Knowing all the problems I'm having, she thought the only thing that the insurance might hedge over is my weight which is why I'm working on that. It sucks having to wait so long for just a consult, but I'm trying to be patient.
Thanks, everyone, for the positive words. I'd been sitting on this for months before I decided to post it anyway, and I'm really glad I did.
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I'm mystified that so many people with boobs smaller than mine have back problems. I wear an H cup, and have never had back troubles. Maybe they're just less dense?
But yeah, I definitely hear ya on the clothing thing. I'm lucky I have a casual-dress job right now; when I graduated college I spent all my graduation money on grown-up clothes and on having those clothes tailored to take the waists of all the size 18 blouses in to match a size 12 torso. And now I never wear the clothes...*sigh*
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bwahaha...no, my job isn't THAT casual It just kind of irks me that I have $500 worth of expensively altered work clothes sitting in my closet that I never ever wear.
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I just sat at my desk and ate lunch without my shirt on. (BBQ wings + white shirt = BAD) It is Casual Friday. Heh heh heh.
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Ha. I was too busy hiding. My cubicle is the one that people can see into when they come in. I was wear a cami, but it was nude (my color nude, even). I had one close call, but my friend was here, and I made her stand in my "doorway." Besides, all I need is more blackmail material.
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quote:Originally posted by quidscribis: Fiazko, I so totally can relate! I'm currently a 38DDD and had a very difficult time finding bras in Canada. I'd usually end up having to suffer with a 40 or 42DD simply because my size didn't exist - even at the specialty shops! (Before I gained weight, I was a 32DDD. That was even worse. Can you say "extremely loose-fitting tops"?) But now that I live in the world of petite Asians . . . Where no bras over a 36C exist . . .
quid...Victoria's Secret... If they don't ship to Sri Lanka, get a Canada relative to order them for you.
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Big personal pet peeve for my wife, who is constantly amazed at the changing and contradictory methods of measurement and "standard" sizes. Right now the description on the Fredericks site about measuring yourself is self-contradictory and she's having trouble getting anyone there to admit/notice it.
Step One: Measure under the bustline. This is MEASUREMENT 1. Step Two: If MEASUREMENT 1 is UNDER 33 inches, add 5 inches. If this number is odd, round up to the next EVEN number. If MEASUREMENT 1 is OVER 33 inches, add 3 inches. If this number is odd, round up to the next EVEN number. Write this EVEN number down. This is your BAND SIZE. Step Three: Measure over the bustline, using your nipples as the guide. This is MEASUREMENT 2. Step Four: Calculate Your CUP SIZE First, subtract MEASUREMENT 1 from MEASUREMENT 2. Then consult the following chart to find your CUP SIZE.
If you follow Step Four, why did you have to do Step Two? Measurement 1 is not the same as the Band Size, as Step Two points out, yet in their instructions they are treated as equal even though there's a 3 or 5 inch difference.
While she assumed that Step Four was supposed to be subtracting your Band Size from Measurement 2, Teresa wrote the webmaster and asked for clarification. They sent back the exact same directions.
And for that matter, why the 3 or 5 inches? By these rules, if you're 32 inches you add 5 to get 37, rounded up to 38. If you're 33 inches, you should add 3 to get 36. For some reason this makes sense to bra manufacturers.
Just today she sent me something she found on a different site:
"Why do manufacturers use complicated cup sizing? They do so to maximize sales, not necessarily to ensure you get the correct bra size. In order to minimize the number of sizes a store carries, larger cup sizes (typically, above a D cup) are measured differently by each manufacturer. An E cup for one manufacturer may be equivalent to a DD cup for another."
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I love this thread. I was just complaining about breasts the other day and mine are nowhere near as problematic much of the stuff mentioned here. But how are you supposed to fit into dresses if part of you is larger when your waist is not?
Oh and shouldn't you be done growing at the age of 25???? I mean I've lost 10-15 lbs in the last year and I think I went up a size. Someone at Victoria's Secret measured me and told me I was a D. Grr I used to be a B/C in mid college. And they get more sore lately. *scowl*
Maybe if I loose another 10-15 lbs they'll behave normally. (And no I will *not* be too thin for those who have met me. If I lose 15 lbs I'll still be a little heavier than I was in college.)
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