I finished Wyrms last week and I loved it. The inclusion philosophy has been central to my beliefs for as long as I can remember, but this is the first book I've read that gives life and breath to these thoughts. Anyone else have thoughts on Wyrms?
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
I've only read a couple times. I put off getting it from the library bc of the freaky cover, and then once I read it, I put off reading it again bc of the freaky story. I finally reread it a while ago, and liked it better the second time around. That seems to happen to me with a few Card books. The first reading either freaks me out or confuses me, but the second (or third, or fourth) reading clarifies the book.
That said, I don't remember many of the specifics of the book, so I can't really commment on what you said.
Posted by Abyss (Member # 3086) on :
I'm confused.
What is Wyrms? What are Wyrms?
-Abyss
Posted by Abyss (Member # 3086) on :
I'm confused.
What is Wyrms? What are Wyrms?
-Abyss
Posted by Abyss (Member # 3086) on :
I'm confused.
What is Wyrms? What are Wyrms?
-Abyss
Posted by Abyss (Member # 3086) on :
And why did that happen?
Posted by LadyDove (Member # 3000) on :
Wyrms is an OSC book that is currently out of print. The setting is a world where there are many different and intelligent life forms. The story has an interesting spin on evolution and religion.
Abyss, I've never seen a triple post before. Maybe you're starting a new trend, or at least you've found a new glich
Posted by Chuckles (Member # 2865) on :
I haven't read Wyrms in years. I read it once, and thought it was terrible. I've been meaning to go back and give it a second chance. It's Geoffrey Card's favourite, and he says it had a huge impact on his development when he was younger....
Take care -Justin-
Posted by pwiscombe (Member # 181) on :
Interesting to read now (knowing that it preceeded Speaker for the Dead but contains some of the same genetic manipulation ideas. Plus of course a brilliant hero who happens to be young.
Posted by Atticus (Member # 1500) on :
I read Wyrms a few years ago and enjoyed it. I'll have to look that one up again sooner or later.
Posted by ender_girl (Member # 2707) on :
Does anyone know where I would be able to get this book? (I know it's out of print but could I still get it somehow?)
Posted by Rebekka (Member # 3290) on :
You can try a used book store but I doubt there are very many of them. I would recommend your friendly public library. If they don't have it, ask about inter-library loans; they may be able to get it for you from some library that does have it.
Posted by nemesis (Member # 2368) on :
I ordered mine from one of Amazon.com's online used bookstores. I cost me just a couple of bucks and postage (less than $4 in all) and was still in pretty good condition. It was definately worth the price and arrived in the mail within just a few days. You might look for it there. I've ordered several of OSC's books that way when I haven't been able to find them anywhere else. Of course, that's supposing you want to own them and not just borrow them. Posted by ender_girl (Member # 2707) on :
Great thanks I'll give Amazon a try first and then if I don't find it I'll try the library. Although I suppose I would like to own it cause I LOVE these books. Even though I may not have room for all of them, they get stacked in lovely places after they're consumed.
Posted by pwiscombe (Member # 181) on :
You can typically find any of OSC's books on EBay. If it isn't available now, wait a week or so.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
I'm bumping up this very old post because I just finished reading Wyrms this week (I have read most of OSC's other works, except I haven't read Lost Boys).
Wyrms was just too much for me to wrap my mind around. I mean, I loved the story, and couldn't put it down --- yet the whole genetic concept of the story just never could make sense to my brain.
And I was frustrated by the way the main character had to constantly feel in limbo "are these my own thoughts, or is He making me feel this way, or is this what he wants me to believe?" it was all so confusing! Whenever she interacted with Angel, too, it was "I can tell he is lying to me -- does he think I believe it, or does he know that I know that he is lying, so he wants me to know that he's lying, so why it that? etc etc." I found that kind of chaos very unsettling.
So how can I say I liked the book (which I did) if it left me feeling so frustrated?
Farmgirl
Posted by ae (Member # 3291) on :
I liked Wyrms, but I have to say that what you found unsettling, I found repetitive and annoying. OSC's writing is full of stuff like that—I guess it's suppsoed to be deep and nuanced characterisation or something—which is a large part of why I've stopped following his work.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
And you (ae)hang out on the forum funded by his books because...? I guess I'm not less guilty, never having actually bought a book.
Though I have to say, farmgirl, that I felt the same about Ender's Shadow. There was so much "Bean said this but even as he said it he was thinking something totally incongruous". I re-read it to see if I wasn't being too hard on it, but that scene where Ender leaves the Battle School is still just torture for me. It's almost Faulkneresque. But I still found the climax very affecting. I don't cry easily, but I did both times I read "Ender's Shadow".
Posted by Grandma Edie (Member # 5771) on :
To those who want to get a copy of WYRMS:
It IS being re-issued, in paper. Hold tight. If your local bookstore, or library, doesn't have a copy, they will soon. If I had known that it was being re-issued, I would have given it more time in my book.
However, here is what I did say. I reviewed the old "quest" tradition, that is: Our Hero must take a journey to acheive a certain goal, overcoming obstacles. He is usually rewarded with either a beautiful woman, or a kingdom, or both. Often, he is accompanied on the quest by a friend or a troupe of friends.
WYRMS is in the quest tradition, but with a significant difference: The one who leads the quest is not a young man, but a young woman. She is not the prize, she is the questor. She does not wait to be rescued, she does her share of rescuing. She is not a perfect leader, but she is as good at it as most of Card's male heroes.
A quest LED by a young woman is unique in literature, I think.
Grandma Edie, also known as Edith S. Tyson, author of ORSON SCOTT CARD: Writer of the Terrible Choice.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
You can also find Wyrms on half.com. I just bought a harback copy for a buck (plus shipping).
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