The Bean series, as I once remembered, was suppose to go- Ender's Shadow, Shadow of the Hegemon, Shadow of the Giant, and then Shadow of Death-- and much to my surprise things changed and the third book evolved into 'Shadow Puppets'-
I guess What I'm getting at is, will the next book be titled Shadow of the Giant? Or will there be a title change?-- I personally like 'Shadow of Death' better- and I think it would have the same kinda general meaning that the Shadow of the Giant has...
~Sir Montague (This is posted on both sides of the River)
Posted by raphael (Member # 5870) on :
pepek- from what I've heard , the next book is shadow of the giant.I didn't hear of shadow of death (nows the time to stone me...)but it sounds good. does Bean die??? PLEASE say no...
Posted by Pepek (Member # 3773) on :
....Everyone dies....
Except Peter of course.. Peter will always find a way to stay alive.. Even if it's Ender's fault.
*Throws a stone*
Posted by Julian Delphiki Jr. (Member # 5882) on :
If you read the Afterward, or whatever the crap it is at the end of the novel, of shadow of the hegemon, it says that Card is thinking of calling the next novel "Shadow of Death." This also confused me, mainly when I searched this site to find out if he released that book yet, and could find it no where, but jept getting Shadow Pupets.
However, that is in the past.
-Older and wiser than 3 weeks ago, I am W-
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
As I understand it, they decided not to go with Shadow of Death because it sounded a little too grim for the young adult demographic to which they're marketing the books.
Posted by Pepek (Member # 3773) on :
Hmm.. You're right.. Shadow of the Giant reminds me of Jack and the Beanstock for some reason.. that disturbs me- maybe he'll change it all together.
Posted by Bean Counter (Member # 6001) on :
The Shadow series takes place in the future after Ender with all the implied advancement since now. One wonders how it can be that there is no way to treat Beans condition. Certainly there must be a way to stop his growth hormonally or with trait insertion.
Perhaps Beam will reach some size and find the means to halt his growth, remaining a giant, but living a long life. Lack of growth might slow his intellectual development, however I think that his mind is likely complex enough at this point. After all if it were just a matter of Volume elephants would build cities and plant crops for themselves instead of us.
BC
Posted by msquared (Member # 4484) on :
Spoilers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bean dies and Petra and Peter raise the kids of Perta and Bean. From the mouth of OSC himself at a book signing.
As he said, "How do you know when my series are over? The main character is dead." So Bean dies.
msquared
Posted by Julian Delphiki Jr. (Member # 5882) on :
so they have children. Are the abnormal like bean? or will that me a new recessive trait expressied only in males?
-W-
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Bean Counter, it's not all that far in the future, relatively speaking. Additionally, a large fraction of the scientific research for the past 100+ years has been devoted to war and communications.
It's also very difficult to do research on a problem that officially not only doesn't exist but would be illegal if it DID exist. While the gene insertion treatments you mention exist to some degree now, they are not all that well developed. In fact, there are some indications that we may NEVER be able to do this on an entire human past the very very early stages of gestation.
As for hormones, there are clearly a number already involved, and trying to deal with them antagonistically is likely to have major side-effects. It's a LOT easier to cause growth than stop it -- short of killing the organism, which would be contraindicated, neh?
Perhaps the next book will have Bean undergo treatments and die of THEM instead of his condition.
As far as elephant brains, they don't have nearly the fold/volume ratio that ours do. And it's degree and number of folds that matters far more than volume.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
W, recessive genes are not the same thing as sex-linked genes.
One certainly hopes that Bean's condition is recessive, possibly in the way that sickle-cell anemia is -- where carriers (one copy of gene) actually have a tiny degree of sickling, just enough to confer protection from malaria; and only those with two copies of the gene actually have the disease.
Posted by Julian Delphiki Jr. (Member # 5882) on :
Arrg, but if it is recessive and sex-linked, then it will be very rare indeed, which is what one would hope. I would want no one to have a condition like beans.
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