His essays on the web....overthrowing bush and the world governments...
ever thought of that card? WORLD DoMINATION
Posted by aragorn64 (Member # 4204) on :
The world HAD a Locke. He lived in the 1600's.
Posted by Locke2525 (Member # 7554) on :
well its been 400 years it needs a damn new one
Posted by James Tiberius Kirk (Member # 2832) on :
*grin* There was 14+ page thread about this awhile back in this forum called "Where is Our Locke?" or something like that. That was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this thread.
--j_k
Posted by TheDisgruntledPostman (Member # 7200) on :
Dude locke, im dear sorry to say but nothing like that will ever happen. This world is greedy and wouldn't give in or really listen to someone unknown. And also in EG and such books related, the world webs(forums) are central and theres only one. So everyone has acess where you have to belong to a site to have acces to one forum copared to EG-Shadow Books. With what i said earlier, governments only listen to themselves and no one else, corruption has taken over the once trustworthy and honest governments of the world. But it would be cool to have a mysterious Locke roaming forums leaving revolutionary statements and doing "good" for the world. But unrealistic.
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
"Overthrowing Bush"? Have you ever actually read an OSC essay?
Posted by Edgehopper (Member # 1716) on :
Well, the big reason that there won't be a Locke anytime soon is that there is no major global crisis or world government. The concept of world domination makes no sense for the next 100 years. Reminds me of a P.J. O'Rourke quote--"The U.N. Charter, as written, only makes sense for one thing: Defending Earth from Martian invasion." If buggers attack, and a world government forms, then power could conceivably be concentrated enough for one person to have the influence of a Locke.
As it stands, the power of a single voice amplified by the web is a lot greater than ever before. Know why Dan Rather's retiring in disgrace, and for that matter part of the reason we still have a President Bush? Powerline (the bloggers who exposed the fraud in the military records story) and SBVT had far more influence than similar people could have had, say, in 1960.
Give it 100 years and an alien invasion...and then maybe 2 brilliant 11 year olds will end World War V.
And yes, were OSC to become Locke, the likely result would be...President Miller? Zell would be my guess for Card's favorite politician at the moment.
Posted by Judas (Member # 7355) on :
What are all you losers talking about? I am the new Locke. I mean, just look at my words.. there so.. english.. - no?
-Judas
Posted by Quimby2999 (Member # 7044) on :
Or some semblance of it . . . yes?
Posted by augirl987 (Member # 7577) on :
There are plenty of political blogs on the web... the problem is just that there aren't any *outstanding* ones. And if there are great essayists out on the web, wouldn't it be hard to find them, with the millions of political blogs on the web?
Maybe I'm being a bit cynical.
I almost fell out of my chair laughing at aragorn's reply: "The world HAD a Locke. He lived in the 1600's."
but then again, the world in Ender's Game had a Locke in the 1600s too. hmm.
Posted by definitelynotvichysoisse (Member # 7559) on :
What did the Locke in the 1600's have to say anyways? I'm wondering why Peter chose Locke as his Pseudonym.
Posted by Vadon (Member # 4561) on :
John Locke?
He basically was the one who created the thoughts of freedom and human liberties if I'm not mistaken... The USA owes a lot to him if I'm correct... though I might have my philosophers mixed up.
Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
why do we need a locke again?
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
quote:What did the Locke in the 1600's have to say anyways? I'm wondering why Peter chose Locke as his Pseudonym.
I think I actually heard Denis Diderot turn over in his grave on this one.
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As to us needing a Locke, I like how Bertolt Brecht put it in Galileo:
quote:-Pity the land that has no hero. -No. Pity the land that needs a hero.
[ March 17, 2005, 11:36 PM: Message edited by: MrSquicky ]
Posted by A Rat Named Dog (Member # 699) on :
We already have a John Locke. The only problem is, he's stranded on a desert island with polar bears, mysterious hatches, and invisible monsters at the moment ...
Posted by alluvion (Member # 7462) on :
I could go for a good burrito right about now.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
I'm with Edgehopper, the only way to get control of the entire world right now is through take-over, as in warfare and bloodshed. And even if the US put all it's money and power into building its military, and more importantly, even if all us citizens were behind it, the US still wouldn't be able to. And right now, if the US can't no one can (sorry, but at this point in history thems the cards in military strength, though that is quite likely to change when China comes of age). For one man to be chosen peaceably as the leader of all man kind there has to be a reason for all the nations in the world (or most of them) to give up independence; alien invasion being the most popular reason.
Hobbes Posted by alluvion (Member # 7462) on :
preferably with black beans and that mexican cheese, please?
oooohh.... who's gonna make my burrito?!!!!!
*tummy achey*
Posted by augirl987 (Member # 7577) on :
quote: What did the Locke in the 1600's have to say anyways? I'm wondering why Peter chose Locke as his Pseudonym.
I think I actually heard Denis Diderot turn over in his grave on this one.
I don't know who Denis Diderot is either. I apologize for my untactful ignorance.
Posted by MrSquicky (Member # 1802) on :
Hot soup, Denis Diderot was a memeber of the French Enlightenment who believed that the one of the paths towards human progress was through education and making knowledge available to everyone. To this end, he created the Encyclopedia.
The Internet would send Denis into paroxysms of delight. It's what he was trying to create raised to the power of 1000. If you wanted to find out about something, say John Locke, all you need to do is type it into a little box and press enter and poof, there you go. He would, however, likely be driven to despair that people seem unwilling or unable to use this astoundingly revolutionary resource.
Ignorance isn't a shameful thing. Everyone is exteremely ignorant about a wide variety of very important things. Remaining ignorant, especially in the face of the astounding resources right within your grasp, is, however, something to be ashamed of.
[ March 21, 2005, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: MrSquicky ]
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Who would we trust with a key? Oh wait...not lock, Locke...nevermind
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