As I was re-reading Alvin Journeyman I came upon chapter 14 "Witnesses" where Alvin is in jail and sings his song. One of the verses he says doesn't fit, from some else's dream or something along those lines.
Alone with my imagining I dreamt the darkest dream, Of tiny men, a spider's sting, And in a land of smoke and steam, An evil golden ring.
This book was written back in '95 so I wasn't sure if I was just seeing things.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
*blink* Jongo, you are aware that the books to which Card is making an homage in that passage existed well before 1995, right? Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
And yes, they are a reference to Lord of the Rings. I thought that was way cool when I read it, too. Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
LOL. But we all know that Middle-Earth didn't exist until Peter Jackson thought it up and made a trilogy of movies about it back in 2001-2003. Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
Definitely an hommage to Tolkien. We who write fantasy are all living in his dream. With Alvin Maker, I'm trying to do for America what he did for England with his trilogy.
Nothing less than hubris, I know.
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
quote:With Alvin Maker, I'm trying to do for America what he did for England with his trilogy.
Then you missed the long, ponderous passages explaining in excruciating detail the history of each location and individual and why the world got to be the way it is.
Which is kind of a shame, because when I saw Seventh Son on the shelf and picked it up to see what it was about, I was already interested from reading the stuff on the back--but when I opened up the front and saw the maps, I knew right then and there that here was a book I had to buy, that very moment. So I'm dying to know how the maps came to be that way. I know you're not into writing extraneous stuff that doesn't affect the story and could be removed without a loss--but if you slipped a teensy bit of extraneous history into the last Alvin Maker book, I wouldn't complain. . . .
Posted by jongo05 (Member # 7580) on :
Tom, I am aware that the books existed, just hadn't read Tolkien's books until after reading Journeyman for the first time.
Posted by definitelynotvichysoisse (Member # 7559) on :
I would love to know more about the history of Alvin's America too. It's fascinating.
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
I think we'll have a supplementary volume called "The Salamanderillion."
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
You should do that. Only with a different title. I don't think The Salamanderillion would sell well, I rhymed.
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Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
I would love a book like that. Many, many times I have felt teasted when reading the Alvin books, because I wanted to know more about the history of that world.
The Atlas of Alvin Earth Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
I'd enjoy reading a collection of short stories set in various times and places in that world.
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