You have the shadow series now its time for its parrallel series the MIND SERIES
it focuses on achilles...imagine how deep....disturbing it could be....We see how he udnerminds governments...why he wants to how he was on the streets before bean
you call it the mind series because well....You are going In the Mind..of a madman...
thoughts?
Posted by Aeroth (Member # 6269) on :
This has been suggested before.
I, for one, think that the Achilles character was explored and detailed well enough in the Shadow books, and his short bit of perspective in Ender's Shadow was enough of his mind for me.
The reason Card chose to write a parallel series about Bean was because the character had a pretty vague background in Ender's Game, and there was infinite room for expansion.
Achilles, however, had most of his life chronicled through the Shadow books, and there aren't enough voids in Achilles's history that would call for a single book about him, let alone a whole series.
Posted by Axess Denyd (Member # 7613) on :
I also seem to remember a quote from Card where he said something to the effect of
"Good is interesting to write, I like to explore people's motives for doing good. I don't find motivations for evil to be interesting."
Keep in mind that's a very loose idea of what I remember from that interview.
Posted by Agnes Bean (Member # 7614) on :
quote:Achilles, however, had most of his life chronicled through the Shadow books, and there aren't enough voids in Achilles's history that would call for a single book about him, let alone a whole series.
Agreed. Plus, I personally have gotten enough of a look into Achilles mind. What we've been given was fascinating, but I think a whole book/series would get boring and perhaps a little too disturbing.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
Besides, as much as I love the Ender books, Card has to draw the line somewhere. We've been promised 2 more novels (and the Christmas book ), that's probably enough. I would hate for the Enderverse to choke itself to death with too many stories about everyone and their mother's past. Some things need to be left mysterious.
Posted by Verai (Member # 7507) on :
Neo-Dragon articulated my thoughts.
Posted by kaioshin00 (Member # 3740) on :
We already know how he dies. I don't think a series where we know the end can be as interesting then ... some other endeavor.
Posted by Quimby2999 (Member # 7044) on :
My worst fear for such a series would be that Achilles turns out to be smarter than Bean (as Bean became smarter than Ender when he became the focus). That would just ruin the entire Shadow series for me.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
That would be totally ridiculous! Bean was genetically modified to have intelligence which surpasses human limits. Give OSC a bit more credit than that. In fact, give him enough credit to assume that he will never write a whole series about Achilles.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
Personally, I have no desire to read novels where the main character is completely unlikeable. And I don't think OSC wants to write that kind of story...which means to do this sort of series, he'd have to make Achilles understood well enough that I (the reader) would have to love him. And that would suck. He redeemed Peter -- but he'd established Peter as a redeemable character in EG by saying he'd become Hegemon. Achilles was killed to save the world from his evil. I don't know how you redeem a character like that and I know I don't want to explore it in an entire series. Ew.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
That's a very good point, Jeniwren.
Posted by Quimby2999 (Member # 7044) on :
quote: Personally, I have no desire to read novels where the main character is completely unlikeable.
Some would say Bean is already a completely unlikeable character (of course I disagree).
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
Notcompletely.
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
What a strange observation. I'd never have said Bean was unlikeable in any of the books. And I don't think you can get through all the books, like the series, but not at least like Bean. Bean might have said he was unlikeable, but no one else would have, except of course Achilles.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
And Tom. Posted by Locke2525 (Member # 7554) on :
heres the beauty- OSC could try and portray him as a likeable character
take some work yes but we saw his bad deeds what if we saw why he did it..his aspiratation..his yern for friends...ect...
Posted by AntiCool (Member # 7386) on :
I thought that Bean was just about the least interesting character of the post-Ender's Shadow Shadow books.
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), that's probably enough. I would hate for the Enderverse to choke itself to death with too many stories about everyone and their mother's past. Some things need to be left mysterious.
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