Sun Drop. It's like Mountain Dew except with more caffeine, more sugar and more death. And more taste. It's delicious!
What do YOU have that's native to your area? (And not as good as Sun Drop? Surely the Carolinas are the chosen one)
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
Snow, whitestuff, indians, snow annnnnnnd more snow. Oh yes, cold very cold here in Quebec especially during winter. Also, corrupt government inspectors and beurocrats, and apparently silent flush toliets bought with 100,000$ of the taxpayers money WHICH WE CAN'T EVEN USE! Oh yes did I mention snow?
Posted by Frangy. (Member # 6794) on :
Here in Spain we have paella (obvious) and "olleta de la plana" (Untranslatable, more typical of the region
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
Spain? I thought you said you were from Japan? Posted by Frangy. (Member # 6794) on :
Japan??? when??? I cannot have said it, not consciously, at least
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
woops, that was JHamilton. SOrry.
Posted by Yen (Member # 7048) on :
Broken dreams of sunshine. Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
what kind of place is "over the rainbow"? is there a pot of gold?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Well, in Dallas, we have Juana Gallo and Bob's Steakhouse (Best. Steak. Ever.-- and far too expensive for us; my dad took us out there when his first granddaughter was born), but I would trade them willingly for the Pasadena/Glendale, CA area, where I grew up: Foster's, Tortas Mexico, Pie and Burger, In 'N' Out, not to mention the places in LA, proper... Unfortunately Bona Corso's is closed now, but there are still so many great places. As well as a convergence of Ikeas... *sigh*
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
North Carolina has barbecue. Other place think they have barbecue, but only because they haven't been here to find out what peppery, vinegary slow-cooked pork is supposed to taste like.
Mexico has Penafiel sangria-flavored soda.
Brazil has guarana.
Both Mexico and Brazil have big, big papayas, which make perfect smoothies.
California has Jamba Juice!
Southern California has Poquito Mas!
New Orleans has beignets.
Baltimore has those nasty "soft-shelled" crabs with little flavor and lots of shell pieces to scar your throat as you swallow.
Buena Vista, VA, has gnats.
Posted by starlooker (Member # 7495) on :
I tried Sun Drop when I was living in North Carolina, due to the fact that one of my college friends raved about it so much that I thought it had to be great.
Woah. What a disappointment.
Although, fact is, I'd quit drinking all kinds of cokes by that point, and so none of them really tasted all that good to me. Sun Drop no better or worse.
Also, for the record, I would like to respectfully point out that MEMPHIS has barbecue. North Carolina thinks it has barbecue.
West Texas has tumbleweeds. And oil. And cotton. And cattle. And a lot of sky.
North Dakota has me. For the next several years. It also has lefse sold in grocery stores, people who actually say "ufda," the world's largest statue of a buffalo, the world's largest statue of a holstein cow, the International Peace Garden, the geographic center of North America, an expected high of 70 degrees today, one person who got tears in her eyes when she found that out, and -- yet again -- is the number one nation in the state for binge drinking. Woo.
Posted by Brian J. Hill (Member # 5346) on :
quote:Buena Vista, VA, has gnats.
Having been to Buena Vista many, many times, I can attest to that. The also have an incredibly disproportionate number of Mormons for a small town in VA, and a lot of people who can't pronounce "Beuna Vista" properly.
West Texas has Brisquet served with slaw, baked beans, and apricot jelly.
A small store in Snow Camp, North Carolina has both Cheerwine and RC Cola in glass bottles--must be consumed with a Moon Pie for the proper culinary experience.
Hershey, PA smells like chocolate, and I'd also argue that fresh right-out-of-the-factory Hershey Chocolate is among the world's best.
Radford, Virginia has a really, really old river that runs North, though I suppose you could argue that it flows in NC and WV as well as VA.
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
Buffalo has...wait for it...wings. As if you didn't know. Posted by Jenny Gardener (Member # 903) on :
Hawaii has POG! In gallon jugs! Yummy!
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
Let's see. Las Vegas has 99 cent shrimp cocktail. Is it good? Who knows? The smoke has numbed your tastebuds by the time you are served.
Posted by TheClone (Member # 6141) on :
Richmond, Virginia has murder...
We also have a lot of "historical" battle grounds nearby...
I'm so moving.
Posted by timothytheenchanter (Member # 7041) on :
alaska has land, i'm sure some of you may be thinking you live in states with lots of places to get away from people but that's just because you've never seen alaska. (getting into the wilderness away from people is a good thing to me)
however i'm currently stationed in Southern California. all we have is people, i can't get over it you turn around and there are more people.
GTMO cuba has prisoners, and beautiful beaches.
Posted by Mr_Megalomaniac (Member # 7695) on :
Georgia has ummm... ahhh.. Oh, I know, THE airport! Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Washington State has the highest rates of depression and the highest rates of anti-depressant usage.
There. Top that.
Posted by TheClone (Member # 6141) on :
Well, that settles it. Washington it is.
Posted by accio (Member # 3040) on :
I just came back from Orlando trip (business) Too many tourist traps down there. Doubletree hotel is called The Castle. (no I didn’t stay there, thank you very much.)
BUT, I had my first Friendly’s ice cream. Then at the airport store (the one sells snacks, paperback, and Disney t-shirts) I saw several SOTG!! Yeah!
Posted by DocCoyote (Member # 5612) on :
Colorado, unfortunately, does NOT have barbecue. The people in Colorado think that the people in KC invented barbecue.
I remember driving down a back road in North Carolina, just over the border from Virginia, on our way to Kinston (Lenoir County). Up ahead, we saw a cloud in the road. Just as I started to ask what the fog was, I got a whiff of the most amazing barbecue smell on earth. In fact, heaven on earth.
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
They must just have taken the pig out of the ground.
And as for Memphis: They have Graceland. So how would they know the difference between one kind of barbecue and another?
But ... to be fair ... Memphis also has Mud Island, the best three-D map of a river in the world.
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Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
We have Sun Drop here in Wisconsin, if you're talking about the stuff that's made by 7up/Dr. Pepper.
I can't think of anything else here that people don't both already know we have and make fun of us for having.
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
Question: Do they still sell Cheerwine in NC? Cause I keep telling people out here about that stuff, and so far the only mildly correct description of what it is..."Have you ever filled a cup with every single type of soda available from the soda fountain at Taco Bell? Yeah...Something like that, with extra caffeine."
Posted by Verai (Member # 7507) on :
Oh, we have Cheerwine.
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
quote: Having been to Buena Vista many, many times, I can attest to that. The also have an incredibly disproportionate number of Mormons for a small town in VA, and a lot of people who can't pronounce "Beuna Vista" properly.
Get a large group of Mormons together and guess what...Pronunciation goes RIGHT out the window. I live in Idaho. I have no idea what a crick is, and I still get confused when people mention the barrow pits.
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
quote: Oh, we have Cheerwine.
Oh good. I was afraid the old home state had given up on going completely crazy with unique carbonated drinks while I've been gone Posted by Brian J. Hill (Member # 5346) on :
Today, I bought three bottles of Cheerwine and one bottle of RC Cola, all in real, honest to goodness, old fashioned American GLASS bottles, which is the ONLY way to drink these exquisite beverages. If I had more cash, I would have bought more. I got them at the RayGo Mart in Snow Camp, NC, which is about 40 minutes south of Greensboro. This is the only place I know of which still carries glass bottles. They also have glass bottles of A and W Root Beer and Sun Drop, though I don't personally care much for the latter.
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
Oh, and let us not forget the fact that, long ago, North Carolina was the only place you could get a Krispy Kreme Doughnut (I still remember doing Cub Scout fund raisers with those half-dozen boxes of original glazed doughnuts).
Posted by ten_wheeler (Member # 7784) on :
NC doesn't just have barbecue, we have 3 distinct kinds. All are pork barbecue, but the sauce (only added after cooking please) and the slaw (which is of course made with the sauce) is what varies. All are vinegar based with some pepper added (tabasco or red pepper flakes), in the eastern part of the state you stop there, in the Piedmont you add some tomato product, and down near Charlotte you add mustard.
For Texas barbecue, I'll take the feedstore in Grapevine over any other that I have had.
And for NC donuts, Britt's in Carolina Beach with Paul's Pastries in Burlington a distant second to them beat out any Krispy Kreme.
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
The pronunciation of Buena Vista Virginia is:
BEW-nah VISS-tah.
That pronunciation sounds wrong to anyone who grew up in California, where it would be pronounced BWAY-nah VISS-tah. Californians think that however they do things is the right way for everyone, however - or maybe they just believe, like the rest of America, that however southerners do it must be wrong. Anyway, they "correct" locals there in the Shenandoah Valley, and get something between bemused contempt and open hostility.
It would be like someone coming to Paris, France, and saying, "Excuse me, why are you saying 'pa-REE'? Don't you see it ends with I and S? It's pronounced 'PAIR-iss.'"
This is especially ironic because of course Californians butcher the original Spanish all the time.
Another example of the same syndrome: The name of the great eastern mountain range may be pronounced "ap-a-LAY-shun" up north, but in the south, where the highest peaks are anyway, it's "ap-a-LATCH-un." To try to correct the local pronunciation is absurd: THEY LIVE HERE.
Cairo, Illinois may have been named after Cairo, Egypt, but the correct pronunciation of the Illinois city is KAY-ro, not KYE-ro. That's just how it is.
Posted by 0range7Penguin (Member # 7337) on :
Ive lived in many states and have found that, Minnesota has giant man eating Misquitos, horse flies, and no-seeums. Washinton state has never ending rain and slugs as big as cigars. Iowa has cows, corn, and cow manure.(The smell of Money! If you have ever lived their you come to like that smell) Illinois has cops. You literally see a cop about every five minutes when driving and in chicago their are cops every five seconds. I swear half the population is cops. Nothing against cops my day used to be one but way, waaaayyyy to many here!
Posted by Gosu (Member # 5783) on :
What does Connecticut have?
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Having also lived in a lot of places, I'd like to add to the list:
Neu-Ulm, Germany has the tallest Cathedral in the world, excellent Kinder-Eggs, and beautiful parks.
Lawton, Oklahoma has Buffalo, Ft. Sill, dirt, dust, cracks in the ground that could swallow a small person, rattlesnakes, scorpions, tornadoes, flash floods, a constant blowing wind...the sound of which will slowly drive you mad, scrubby grass that kills bare-feet, and heat...oppressive, smothering heat.
Northern Virginia has a diverse population, beautiful parks, all the culture of D.C. without the fuss of living there, more government workers than all foreign governments staffs combined, and an intense desire to not be associated with the rest of Virginia.
D.C. has politics, politics in every nuance and situation. Politics over where to eat lunch, go shopping, or see a show. D.C. also has (arguably) the best museum experience in the world. The attractions are free to anyone, and a week doesn't give you enough time to see everything. Also, in no particular order, D.C. has: Georgetown (oooh Poltergeist steps), the 9:30 club, National Zoo, and...well...lots of stuff. Great neighborhoods ( okay...some great neighborhoods...)
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
Ft. Sill also has an old atomic howitzer on display--picture. I saw it as a kid during a school tour, and knew I wouldn't want to load up that howitzer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_artillery Posted by Lost Ashes (Member # 6745) on :
North Carolina has the only true barbecue. Everything else is poorly cooked meat hiding in syrupy sauce. Trust me, it is all about the cooking of the meat, not in who can put the most ketchup on something.
Cheerwine, SunDrop, and BC Headache powders (although these are shipping all over now).
Posted by Risuena (Member # 2924) on :
quote: Baltimore has those nasty "soft-shelled" crabs with little flavor and lots of shell pieces to scar your throat as you swallow.
Mmm... softshell crabs. Just the thought is making me hungry. Baltimore's also got Egyptian Pizza and fantastic rosemary-garlic french fries. And crabcakes. Lots and lots of crabcakes.
quote: Radford, Virginia has a really, really old river that runs North, though I suppose you could argue that it flows in NC and WV as well as VA.
You left out the best part about that "really old river" - It's name is the New River.
quote: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Having been to Buena Vista many, many times, I can attest to that. The also have an incredibly disproportionate number of Mormons for a small town in VA, and a lot of people who can't pronounce "Beuna Vista" properly. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Get a large group of Mormons together and guess what...Pronunciation goes RIGHT out the window.
That may be true about Mormons, however, we're also talking about southwest Virginia. They'll mispronounce anything and everything - but they're still not as bad as Texans.
Posted by Emily W (Member # 7504) on :
Here in Indiana we have a basketball hoop for every man, woman and child, as well as enough corn and soybeans to feed many a third world country. Kentucky has a beverage called “Ale-8-1” (‘A late one’). I was told by the locals that it’s only distributed in Kentucky. It’s called Ale-8-1 because of its caffeine content. Drink one of these and you will be up alllllllllll night long.
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
quote: Oh, and let us not forget the fact that, long ago, North Carolina was the only place you could get a Krispy Kreme Doughnut (I still remember doing Cub Scout fund raisers with those half-dozen boxes of original glazed doughnuts).
I wish you'd kept them there. Posted by Avicus (Member # 7652) on :
Ray's Pizza only there's like 50 of them that claim to be Famous Ray's and I still don't have a clue which one is the original.
Posted by Brian J. Hill (Member # 5346) on :
A few notes on pronunciation:
1. OSC is absolutely correct about the right way to pronounce Buena Vista. Because of SVU's incredible growth in the past few years and its status as "B.Y. Y'all," there have been a lot of Mormons moving in there, most of whom have no idea how to pronounce the name. I have set many a misguided Utah Mormon on the correct path to proper pronunciation.
2. It also grates my ears to no end to hear people say AppaLAYsha. It's AppaLATCHa, people! Get it right!
3. Colorado and Nevada both have a short "a," as in "Radical."
4. Most native Missourians call it "Missourah," so as not to sound like "misery."
5. If you go to the Rochester, NY area, you might as well give up on trying to get any of the names right. Avon rhymes with "HAVE on," Chili is pronounced "ChEYE-LIE," and Charlotte is pronounced "shaLOT," to name a few.
So far this post has nothing to do with the thread topic, so I'll bring it back.
Rochester, NY has something called a "garbage plate," which is a food item including hamburger, hotdogs, mustard, home fries, macoroni salad, and lots of other stuff I'm forgetting. Real garbage plates come from a greasy spoon diner called Tahoes, and NOWHERE ELSE!!!
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
quote: I wish you'd kept them there.
You've never had a Krispy Kreme Honey Bun. *drool* (Yeah, I actually prefer the grocery store donuts in most cases. Especially the little custard filled kind) In fact, I think NC is still the only place you can get honey buns from them...
Posted by Boris (Member # 6935) on :
quote: It also grates my ears to no end to hear people say AppaLAYsha. It's AppaLATCHa, people! Get it right!
Yeah, no joke. It's not a French word, people! (My grammar teacher knew I was from there when I said it the proper way, however.)
Posted by X12 (Member # 5867) on :
Errmm... We have Microsoft, used to have Boeing, Starbucks, "Grung", Large Mountains, a lot of rain, a large cult who strongly want stem-cell research and would've industrialized the world with it if Kerry had won, and has ocean inside of itself.
~~~Anyone think Americans are arrogant?~~~
~Aphotic (X12)
Posted by Szymon (Member # 7103) on :
I wonder, could anyone please tell me what the Hatrack is? Is a town and a river, or only river, or neither?
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
Hatrack River is a fictional river in the Alvin Maker series, starting with Seventh Son. Card himself answered your question recently on this thread.
Posted by seespot (Member # 7388) on :
quote: Lawton, Oklahoma has Buffalo, Ft. Sill, dirt, dust, cracks in the ground that could swallow a small person, rattlesnakes, scorpions, tornadoes, flash floods, a constant blowing wind...the sound of which will slowly drive you mad, scrubby grass that kills bare-feet, and heat...oppressive, smothering heat.
Lawton and Ft. Sill currently have my husband for Army Basic Training, so I think in his mind it will be eternally considered as some level of Hell.
Miami has lots of Cubans, Tres Leche, Plantains and Plantain Chips, Black Beans and Rice, Pollo Tropical, and lots of hurricanes!
BTW--yes this is my first post, but I have registered and reading for a little while now. It's been very fun. . .
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Seespot, I didn't know that they did basic at Ft. Sill. We were stationed there when my dad was part of the Pershing unit, and I just assumed it was still a F/A base.
Posted by seespot (Member # 7388) on :
Yep, they do. Or this is all just a very cruel joke.
What was it like to be stationed there? My company now has a huge call center there, and from what people who have been there have said, it sounds like the only two jobs to have in that town are either military or at our call center.
Posted by starlooker (Member # 7495) on :
Cheap shot about Graceland, Mr. Card!
As my dear friend Deb, who is native to Memphis, emailed me months ago when she was trying to convince me to move back to Memphis:
Memphis has BARBEQUE: Nowhere else in the world can you cook a pig like you can in Memphis. We like it so much we even have the world championship BARBEQUE (pork) competition here.
I rest my case. I would also like to point out, on Deb's behalf, that people native to Memphis do not go to Graceland.
I went to college in Memphis for four years. I also never went to Graceland. This was for two reasons. A) I was poor and B) my friends were mostly from Memphis and refused to go.
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Lawton was small and backwards. We moved there from Germany, and it seemed so removed from the rest of the world. The pace of life was almost glacial, with literally nothing to cause any sense of hurry. There was nothing to hurry to or from. The Wildlife reserve was neat, and so was the amazing artillery display that we saw, but unless you like explosions and prarie dogs there's not much there for you.
Posted by Syrjay (Member # 7706) on :
Ohio has..
cities such as Houston (How-ston) and Russia (rooh-she) and Versailles (ver-sales).
some of my favorite history as Simon Kenton and Tecumseh and Blue Jacket (whatever version you believe) travelled the grounds here.
obese people.
NC definitely has good barbecue. I have been to Raleigh a few times and always try to get to one of the local places for some proper barbecue.
Posted by accio (Member # 3040) on :
Memphis in May! I saw it on FoodTV last year.
My hubby is going to Concord, NC in two weeks. Living in Georgia for over 20 years I am only exposed to the barbeque here. I know of the existence of Carolina barbeque but until this past weekend I had not had good Carolina barbeque. I really loved the one I tried. I want my hubby to bring me some good Carolina barbeque. Can anyone give him a suggestion as to where to go (to find good barbecue!)?
Posted by ketchupqueen (Member # 6877) on :
Syrjay, Ohio has nothing on Dallas as far as obese people go. We're the fattest city in America! Posted by Josh W (Member # 5253) on :
Here In Philly we have... real cheesesteaks, Yengling Lager (sp?), every type of Tasty Cake, 2 hour ride to the beach, and our nations birth.
Posted by K.K. Slyder (Member # 7416) on :
Tennessee has the largest Methamphetamine problem in the whole Union. I live in TN (and while I'm in middle TN) I do not call the mountains as the appaLATCHins.
A few years ago we were the 49th worst state on spending money for education.
Tennessee also has the only democratic leader I can really stand- Phil Bredesen. He's much better than the crook who was in office before.
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
In addition to POG in gallon jugs, Hawaii has Kalua pig, poi, chicken katsu (which is really Japanese), malasadas (which are really Portugese), Lomi salmon, chicken long rice, and plate lunch.
We also have the best beaches in the world, the most breathtaking views and the most expensive gasoline in the nation.
Posted by K.K. Slyder (Member # 7416) on :
What is the price of gasoline in Hawaii?
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
I paid $2.77 this morning. Which really isn't the worst part. The worst part is, every time gas prices go up on the mainland, ours go up too, but ours NEVER come down. The last time yours went up (this summer maybe? I forget what season it is), ours peaked at about $2.71, then went "down" to $2.69 until the last price hike a couple of weeks ago.
These are Maui prices - they're lower on Oahu and the Big Island, about the same on Kauai and about 30-40 cents higher on Molokai, Lanai and in Hana on Maui. Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Hawaii seems so small on the map...can't you guys just walk everywhere Posted by X12 (Member # 5867) on :
In Europe the gas price (well, in France) is about $6.
P.S.- I live in Washington State
Posted by Audeo (Member # 5130) on :
quote: Rochester, NY has something called a "garbage plate," which is a food item including hamburger, hotdogs, mustard, home fries, macoroni salad, and lots of other stuff I'm forgetting. Real garbage plates come from a greasy spoon diner called Tahoes, and NOWHERE ELSE
I'd just like to second the garbage plates. I've had one and it was very good.
Washington has trees! Oh, sure other states claim to have trees, but in PA the forest is a ghostly grayish color for over half the year (the half the year I'm here). In Washington though (only the western side, the eastern side might as well be part of Idaho) the trees and the forests are a rich green brown all year round. If you can see through the current fog/precipitation, your eyes will see a green tree. I miss it a lot.
Washington also has the ideal climate. Rarely below 40 (F) in the winter, and rarely above 85 in the summer. Not to mention that it isn't insanely humid in the summer nor painfully dry in the winter. Of course now that I've told all of you this, you'll want to move there too. And another wooded lot I played on as a child will be bulldozed and turned into a housing development .
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
I have to agree with you about Washington. I lived there for a few months in late 1985 and was very sorry to leave. If I ever move back to the mainland, that's where I'll go.
Posted by ChaosTheory (Member # 7069) on :
Oh yeah! Well here in Minnesota we have...um...hmm...I'll get back to you on that.
We have the best food that traditional Scandanavian and German cooks have to offer. Our Bratwurst would kick the stuffing out of anybody else's. Homemade sour-kraut. Lefse is awesome. And the traditional Norsk delicacy...Lutifisk (jk, it's a very aquired taste...I WOULD NOT suggest it to anybody that isn't daring enough to eat cod thats been soaked in drain-o for a week.)
Posted by ChaosTheory (Member # 7069) on :
Oh yeah, we have a ton of bugs/mosquitoes. Especially if you go into a forest; those suckers can seriously get 2" long.
Posted by ChaosTheory (Member # 7069) on :
Oh, and we have the best Walleye you'll ever taste.
Posted by arevoj (Member # 7347) on :
Verai, Brian J. Hill and Boris - I'm quite familiar with Sun Drop, Cheerwine, and BC Powders (unfortunately so on the BC's).
Ever tried Cheerwine poured over vanilla ice cream in a tall glass? Yummy!
While we have Sun Drop here now, when I was a kid, we could only find it when we visited my grandparents in Chimney Rock. It seems like this was the same for Cheerwine, but I might be wrong about that.
Hey Boris - just read your landmark "1001 Dalmations"; small world. For a short while I lived in Chimney Rock and went to school in Edneyville, a hop, skip and jump from Hendersonville.
Which reminds me, NC also has the "hatching of the monarchs". I'm sure this must happen everywhere, but I've not seen it happen in such a way since. One day when I was in school at Edneyville, I walked out of the building and the sky was filled, absolutely filled, with butterflies. It was amazing and utterly beautiful.
Edit: too many "and"s
[ April 14, 2005, 05:51 AM: Message edited by: arevoj ]
Posted by TheHumanTarget (Member # 7129) on :
Chaos, While I'm sure your bratwurst is great, I've found none that none can compare with buying it from the street-vendors in Ulm, Germany. Although, the food court at the Augsburg PX had great bratwurst and nachwurst...either way, I guess there's something to be said for going to the source Posted by Brian J. Hill (Member # 5346) on :
quote: Cheerwine poured over vanilla ice cream in a tall glass
Sounds absolutely exquisite. I still have two bottles of Cheerwine in my fridge. I'll try to remember to get some vanilla ice cream tonight. Should I get regular vanilla or French vanilla? Any particular brand?
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