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Posted by genius00345 (Member # 8206) on :

In SOTG, many countries are listed as having petitioned for plebiscites, but OSC never actually confirmed that they joined the FPE.

If I was to make a list of the FPE countries, should I list those countries or not?

Posted by genius00345 (Member # 8206) on :

Never mind...I just re-read the ending and I remembered that OSC had said that only America had not joined the FPE yet.

I do have a list, though, of all the countries mentioned by name that joined. An asterisk means that their acceptance into the FPE was officially recognized in the book, all others were mentioned as FPE allies or as holding plebiscites.

NORTH AND CENTRAL AMERICA, CARRIBEAN:

*Haiti
Belize
Costa Rica
Dominican Republic

SOUTH AMERICA:

*Brazil (FPE capital-Blackstream, supervisor R. Bellini)
*Bolivia
*Chile
*Ecuador
*Suriname
*Guyana
*Peru
*Runa (parts of Ecuador, Bolivia, Peru)
Cayenne
Colombia

AFRICA:

*Rwanda (FPE capital-Kiyagi, supervisor F. Starman)
*Botswana
*Mozambique
*Cameroon
*Angola
*Ghana
*Liberia
*Nubia (SW Sudan)
Uganda
South Africa
*Nigeria
Namibia
Burundi

ASIA:

*Phillipines
*Thailand (FPE capital-Bangkok, supervisor Paribatra)
*Russia

OCEANIA:

*Tonga
*Vanuatu
*Kiribati
Fiji

EUROPE:

*Netherlands (FPE capital-Rotterdam, supervisor K. Boom)
*Slovenia
*Czechland
*Estonia
*Finland
Poland
Rumania
Hungary
Serbia
Austria
Greece
Belarus
Belgium
*Bulgaria
*Latvia
*Lithuania
Slovakia

Posted by Haloed Silhouette (Member # 8062) on :

quote:
If I was

I remember hearing that it's more proper to say "if I were". But now that I think of it, it makes no sense! I was, we were!

Posted by Hamson (Member # 7808) on :

I commend you on your list.

Posted by 0range7Penguin (Member # 7337) on :

Did you just do this for fun or is it for a project of some kind?

Posted by Feiwaltan (Member # 7912) on :

hey did you leave out some asian countries, such as, India, China, and some other once?
quote: "Did you just do this for fun or is it for a project of some kind?" the same thing i was thinking of.

Posted by genius00345 (Member # 8206) on :

I was just doing it for fun as I was reading...I had planned on making a map.

Feiwaltan: When I read, I didn't see anywhere that India or China had actually petitioned for or held a plebiscite IN THE BOOK. I know that it says the only country not joined was America, but I don't think any other countries than what's above were listed by name. And, I can't check because I returned my (overdue) copy of SOTG.

Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :

quote:
I remember hearing that it's more proper to say "if I were". But now that I think of it, it makes no sense! I was, we were!

That's because it's proper to use the subjunctive mood when you're speaking of subjective, hypothetical, or wishful situations. The example you give is in the indicative mood.

The subjunctive mood uses the third-person singular conjugation of the verb minus the S. In the case of to be, there is a past subjunctive form in addition to the typical present form: were. (the present subjunctive of to be can be seen in phrases like "be that as it may.")

It's proper to say "I wish I were homeward bound," "If I were a rich girl," and "Best take your yellow slicker, Nigel, lest it rain!"

But it's OK. It's not like anyone speaks English these days anyway. [Razz]

Posted by MidnightBlue (Member # 6146) on :

I speak American. [Smile]

Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :

Well, that's handy, since North American English is one of the two remaining dialects to still utilize the subjunctive.

Posted by Lock and key (Member # 8073) on :

north american, english, american, stark, it's all the same/greek to me