Do you? Cuz with all the book signings I'm wondering if you worked while traveling. I Hope you use Zone Alarm as a fire wall I have NO viruses on my computer and pretty much no spyware either.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
*blink* Sid....Never mind.
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
I got the same reaction with the joke "There are only 10 types of people those who know Binary and those who don't."
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
Well, looks like there's a programmer here.
"Why do Programmers confuse Halloween with christmas? Because Oct 31 == Dec 25"
Posted by DarkKnight (Member # 7536) on :
or at least people who know binary, octal, and hexadecimal
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Or at least people who have heard the joke before, one of the sixty million times it's been told on the Internet. Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
heheh
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
I was more laughing at Tom's response to Sid's post. (and that's the only binary I know, that joke )
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Oh yea, and I think Card does have a laptop becuase he's written a number of times about wireless networks in various places he's been while travelling.
I got mad at Zone Alarm the other day because all I wanted was a simple virus scanner and it did all that firewall stuff that I didn't want it to. end of story.
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
lol, Zone Alarm and I are a happy couple, though me and my royter are not on speaking terms.
Constantly making my life diffulted with its constant nagging and guilt trips.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I think I like the word "diffulted."
Posted by Jay (Member # 5786) on :
I bet OSC has the best top of the line laptop complete with satellite internet and HD screen
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
If he doesn't have a laptop, he'll make a lousy grandpa.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
What's a royter?
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
router. I like saying "royter" though gives me an accent.
Posted by kojabu (Member # 8042) on :
Is that the same accent that can pronounce diffulted as difficult?
Posted by El JT de Spang (Member # 7742) on :
He does have a laptop.
Check here for more info. Sid, you of all people should know how to use the search feature. The thread's on page 4.
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
ah I see.
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
except laptop I don't think was eevr used in a sentance in that thread...
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
It is. 4th post by OSC.
Posted by Dread Pendragon (Member # 7239) on :
He has a travel one and a big one. He likes wide screens so he can have Wordperfect up and the internet at the same time. *in raspy voice* don't even get him started on Word. (If there was no other reason to like him besides the fact that he uses Wordperfect instead of Word, that would be enough.)
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
don't like word perfect normal word doesn't reconize it, I was almost unable to hand in an assignment once.
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
Can someone explain the difference? I use Word Processor and everyone tells me how bad it is, but it types, prints, and it could change font and that's all I need.
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
If the reason you don't like WordPerfect is because WORD doesn't bother to do accurate conversions, then which program is it that's letting you down?
If you're happy with the word processor you have, then go for it!
Word Perfect gives you far more control over your text. And it's more programmable. So I have macros that allow me to do everything - including mark blocks and delete or move or copy them - right from the keyboard. I almost never touch the mouse while I'm writing. With Word, that's impossible (I've tried) - Word basically trains you to write THEIR way; WordPerfect lets you reshape the program to work the way YOU want it to. It's the best word processor ever. But for many users, it makes no difference, so ... no problem. If you're happy, you're happy!
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
I want to clarify that I use Microsoft Works Word Processor, I read my previous post and realize that made no sense.
"And it's more programmable. So I have macros that allow me to do everything - including mark blocks and delete or move or copy them - right from the keyboard"
Can someone point me to website where I could learn about these things? How do you program a processor? And what's a macro?
Posted by SpEeDMaSTeR (Member # 7568) on :
A macro is simply a series of commands linked to a certain action, in this case a keypress of whatever OSC has assigned. For example, pressing enter at the end of a paragraph in WordPerfect could be made to automatically indent a tab on the next line. Or pressing F7 could save to multiple locations using different filenames, to avoid possible corruption. No, I've never used WordPerfect and don't actually know how to set up any macros. But I answered one of your questions. =/
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
That's really cool. I think I understand now why some people would prefer one word processor to another. I wouldn't mind having my word processor have commands like that.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote: And it's more programmable. So I have macros that allow me to do everything - including mark blocks and delete or move or copy them - right from the keyboard.
Scott, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. As both a WordPerfect and a Word user, and a casual VB programmer, the simple fact is that Word is actually considerably more programmable than WordPerfect is -- thanks primarily to Word's object model, which treats each object (document, page, paragraph, word, and character) as a container that holds various properties. If you know what you're doing in VBA, then, you can program Word to do things that you couldn't even dream of doing in WordPerfect.
That said, WordPerfect's object model -- which uses property tags that enclose characters -- has its own advantages. For one thing, it makes possible WP's beautiful Reveal Codes functionality, something that Word has always lacked (and, thanks to the way it's designed, can never really have). For another, it's possible to write moderately powerful macros in really basic language.
This, then, is the strength of WordPerfect: it is designed to provide extremely useful features to the moderately advanced user. It is neither as "easy" for beginners nor as "powerful" for experts as Word, but for mid-range users -- which is where I suspect the vast majority of most professional users lie -- it's perfect.
Word has become the standard because it became the standard among businesses (for a variety of reasons, including the interoperability with Microsoft's two real killer apps, Excel and Access, and Word's considerably more powerful scripting, programming, and workflow engines). But I wholeheartedly agree that the majority of users will find that WordPerfect's object model more closely mirrors the way they use a word processor and thus is more likely to seem "intuitive" to them.
(Jaime, it's also worth noting that Word does macros, too. And in its newer versions, it even does macros almost exactly the same way the new versions of WordPerfect do. *laugh* Macros are extremely common; I can't think of a major word processor out there which doesn't permit them in some form.)
[ July 28, 2005, 12:18 AM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by JaimeBenlevy (Member # 6222) on :
How can I learn how to use macros? I use Microsoft Works Word Processor (And because I'm extremely slow, is that the one you refer to as "Word" or is Microsoft Works something different?)
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
The word processor included with Microsoft Works is a stripped-down version of Word; many features are missing, and other elements have been added to make it an "easier" experience. I haven't used Works in around ten years, though, so I'm not intimately familiar with the changes to this current version. I believe that there is still a "Macro" option under the Tools menu that permits you to record macros, though, which should get you most of the way there. Try searching the Help -- Microsoft's in-program Help is generally very good -- for instructions on recording macros.
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
I have Office 2003, though Access isn't working right for me, which I'll need for next semester.
Yeah Word failed me, just that my grandparents neighbors used WordPerfect while my house has Word 2003 and I did my essay at neighbors house and I emailed back to myself (long story) and it didn't convert I had to temp download word perfect to print it out.
Posted by Puppy (Member # 6721) on :
quote:Scott, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.
Admit it. You enjoyed disagreeing with him Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
WordPerfect has been changing its file formats a lot recently. Microsoft has had some trouble keeping up with the format changes, although they generally put converters up for download on their Office support site when they're finished. In general, it's always a good idea to save a WordPerfect document that you know is going to be read in Microsoft Word in an older WordPerfect format, or even in one of the Word formats WP can emulate.
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
Who Doesn't? Well except me I don't like disagreeing with someone who could probly pound me flat in a debate since I enjoy the dellusion of sohpistication I weave around myself.
Posted by theamazeeaz (Member # 6970) on :
I just learned about Macros at work this summer. I only know how they work in Emacs though.
Posted by Yozhik (Member # 89) on :
WordPerfect was invented by a Mormon.
Just in case you wanted to know.
Posted by Sid Meier (Member # 6965) on :
oooooooh....
wait.... Yozhik.... what does it mean registered "A long time ago?"
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
It means Yoz was around during the Big Mouth Lion days, and was one of the first two batches imported (by user name).
Posted by King of Men (Member # 6684) on :
emacs is a lot more customisable than WordPerfect; you can write your own Lisp macros and bind them to key combos.
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