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Posted by Ginosion (Member # 7066) on :
 
Well, a while ago I posted a thread saying that 'Ender will save us all' by dashbored confessionals would make the perfect theme song for Ender's Game the movie (which i know still has a big chance of not even becoming a movie). Well, I've changed my mind. My new choice is 'Carry on my Wayward son' by Kansas or 'Speaker for the Dead' by Gatsby's American Dream or 'Life Death' by Brazil.

Why am I posting this? Just to see if anyone agrees with me. Also, I would of posted it in the older thread, but I couldn't find it for some reason.
 
Posted by trpollen (Member # 8274) on :
 
Anything by Eels would be a fine theme song.
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
"Defy You" by The Offspring. That song is perfect.
 
Posted by Orson Scott Card (Member # 209) on :
 
So I guess this means "The Itsy-Bitsy Spider" is out.
 
Posted by Zarex (Member # 8504) on :
 
I'll go with what the author says.

Although I would like a song by Simon and Garfunkle.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
The Notwist - One with the Freaks

I laughed aloud when I read the itsy bitsy spider crack, but now that I think about it...that works.
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
I think that "Defy You" is good because there is a group of people who don't give up, the Jeesh. Ender decides to do whatever he can to get out of Battle School, he is defying the teachers. And he uses his emotions to help him win. I just thought it was the most perfectly, perfect song ever!
 
Posted by Verily the Younger (Member # 6705) on :
 
I don't know that any contemporary rock or pop song would really fit for something set so far in the future. I think the best choice for the movie would be to just create an original score.

Using Mark Knopfler if possible. [Cool]
 
Posted by BryanP (Member # 7772) on :
 
Anything by Radiohead would work swell, especially Reckoner.
 
Posted by Oobie Binoobie (Member # 8059) on :
 
I suggest Afterglow. No, wait, don't beat me!!!!

<runs away>
 
Posted by CStroman (Member # 6872) on :
 
I posted this on another OSC board, but I'll repeat it. The James Horner SCORE to "A Beautiful Mind" would fit appropriately to an Ender's Game film. This due to Ender's Game having some similar "feels" and "moods" to the story as "A Beautiful Mind" (as well as "Lord of the Flies", etc. etc.)

If you have access to the score, you may want to give it a spin, close your eyes and picture the scenes that it would support. That and perhaps James Horner's "Bicentennial Man" as it's very similar.
 
Posted by Steev (Member # 6805) on :
 
Must resist the urge to say something cynical and sarcastic. [Wall Bash]

Ok...

I think pop music works great in films such as "Hitch" and "Garden State" but for a sci-fi drama I prefer a lush orchestral score with melodic themes...but, that's just me and being as I'm going on 36 makes me old fashioned. [Wink]
 
Posted by Stone_Wolf_ (Member # 8299) on :
 
<Agree> James Horner is awsome. I have the Glory soundtrack, and the Braveheart soundtrack which he also did and he would be perfect.
 
Posted by Dobbie (Member # 3881) on :
 
http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/lyrics/antsgo.htm
 
Posted by BryanP (Member # 7772) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
<Agree> James Horner is awsome. I have the Glory soundtrack, and the Braveheart soundtrack which he also did and he would be perfect.

yeah, Horner has a tendancy to repeat himself....in fact, that's all he really seems to do anymore. if you use his, go with Wrath of Khan!
 
Posted by uvscwolverine (Member # 8243) on :
 
How about the Super Mario Bros. theme song from the original NES?
 
Posted by SpEeDMaSTeR (Member # 7568) on :
 
I don't recall the composer's name, but he does the work for most of M. Night Shyamalan's films such as "Signs," "The Village," "Unbreakable," and the "Sixth Sense." All of these have the same ominous and dramatic feel, but are great at setting a mood.
 
Posted by erosomniac (Member # 6834) on :
 
quote:
Must resist the urge to say something cynical and sarcastic.

Ok...

I think pop music works great in films such as "Hitch" and "Garden State" but for a sci-fi drama I prefer a lush orchestral score with melodic themes...but, that's just me and being as I'm going on 36 makes me old fashioned.

Beware of mentioning "pop" and "Radiohead" in the same sentence, or the more rabid fans will give you the bends, render you an amnesiac, steal your soul and scream "HAIL TO THE THIEF!"

After tattooing okComputer on your forehead.
 
Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
 
I'm 17 and I have read all of Mr. Card's series and I have to agree with Steev, I feel an orchestral theme would be perfect. Something slow and deep, as they show the first Bugger War and etc. the music could speed up just a little and then fade as they move into Ender's home. This would set a background for later, when they could use that same theme to illustrate more dramatic points. I am assuming you are all speaking about the movie of course.
 
Posted by Steev (Member # 6805) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
Beware of mentioning "pop" and "Radiohead" in the same sentence, or the more rabid fans will give you the bends, render you an amnesiac, steal your soul and scream "HAIL TO THE THIEF!"

After tattooing okComputer on your forehead.

[ROFL]
 
Posted by Leaf (Member # 7880) on :
 
Although the movie was.... sort of unnecessary (that's the nice word... you'll know what I mean) I think the soundtrack to Solaris would be fitting, because it is orchestral plus electronic (with different songs of course). I guess that's why it was appropriate for solaris, since it was future-set. But that would be cool. As far as pop goes though, perhaps...
Die eir von satan - by tool. If you've never heard it, check it out, and you'll agree - [Wink]
 
Posted by BryanP (Member # 7772) on :
 
Die Eir Von Satan? Isn't it a recipe for something (in German)?

I'm not sure that's the best choice for Ender...
 
Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
 
Um... I know a little about german and that sounds like The (?)Eir(?) of Satan. Not sure what Eir is.
 
Posted by Leaf (Member # 7880) on :
 
Well OBVIOUSLY it was not serious (please refer to the *wink at the end of that message.) But the first part I was serious about.
Also...
Die Eir Von Satan = The eggs of Satan. It is a recipe but I'm not sure what it is for, but it reads like a WW II war time speech... if you know german it is sort of amusing. Anyways... it is a ridiculous song and completely unsuitable for the movie. I was just kidding... as if saying enders game movie = no pop music.
Its just a bad idea for any good movie to have that.. except bill and teds excellent adventure....
 
Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
 
Ok, good. makes me think of scrambled eggs with just a pinch of brimstone.
 
Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
 
I know what the perfect theme would be, Mephistopheles by the Trans-Siberian Orchestra, it has all of the sorrow and spirit with the periods of intense action. And if not that, then any other song by the Trans-Siberian Orchestra
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
Dir en grey's 24 Cylinders reminds me of Ender's Game for some reason... So perhaps that would work.
I am overdue to reread that book. Perhaps I'll buy it instead of checking it out of the library which is punishing me for being addicted to books.
 
Posted by BryanP (Member # 7772) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leaf:
Well OBVIOUSLY it was not serious (please refer to the *wink at the end of that message.) But the first part I was serious about.
Also...
Die Eir Von Satan = The eggs of Satan. It is a recipe but I'm not sure what it is for, but it reads like a WW II war time speech... if you know german it is sort of amusing. Anyways... it is a ridiculous song and completely unsuitable for the movie. I was just kidding... as if saying enders game movie = no pop music.
Its just a bad idea for any good movie to have that.. except bill and teds excellent adventure....

sorry, i knew you were joking, and it was pretty funny [Wink]
 
Posted by Leaf (Member # 7880) on :
 
*mr. burns voice* (plus hand movement)

Excellent.....
 
Posted by Tigger (Member # 8171) on :
 
Well, I have to say that at first blush I poo-poohed the idea of "Wayward Son" and then I sang the song in my head, and then I googled the lyrics to see if I remembered correctly, and I must say they actually do fit (IMHO)- a remake, perhaps?

For memory refreshers for others, the lyrics from: Carry On, Wayward Son

quote:
Carry On Wayward Son
KANSAS

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more

Once I rose above the noise and confusion
Just to get a glimpse beyond this illusion
I was soaring ever higher
But I flew too high
Though my eyes could see I still was a blind man
Though my mind could think I still was a mad man
I can hear the voices when I'm dreaming
I can hear them say

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more

Masquerading as a man with a reason
My charade is the event of the season
And if I claim to be a wise man
It surely means that I don't know
On a stormy sea of moving emotion
Tossed about I'm like a ship on the ocean
I set a course for winds of fortune
But I hear the voices say

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more
No!
Carry on
You will always remember
Carry on
Nothing equals the splendor
Now your life's no longer empty
Surely heaven waits for you

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more


 
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SpEeDMaSTeR:
I don't recall the composer's name, but he does the work for most of M. Night Shyamalan's films such as "Signs," "The Village," "Unbreakable," and the "Sixth Sense." All of these have the same ominous and dramatic feel, but are great at setting a mood.

James Newton Howard.
 
Posted by TZM (Member # 8610) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Orson Scott Card:
So I guess this means "The Itsy-Bitsy Spider" is out.

I dont know... it could work XD

How about 'One winged Angel?'


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Okay fine, I'm into Final Fantasy, so sue me... *walks away grumbling*
 
Posted by Ginosion (Member # 7066) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TZM:
quote:
Originally posted by Orson Scott Card:
So I guess this means "The Itsy-Bitsy Spider" is out.

I dont know... it could work XD

How about 'One winged Angel?'


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Okay fine, I'm into Final Fantasy, so sue me... *walks away grumbling*

Its okay (i bet secrety Orson is final tantasy fan, lol).

I like where your going though, I'm not too sure one winged angel would fit but and song from Nobuo Uematsu would be very nice.
 
Posted by TZM (Member # 8610) on :
 
*shrugs* maybe something in that general area... that type of music, not sure which one it was, but you know what i meen. Something well orchestrated with that sort of singing in the background... kinda like they had for Advent Rising...

heh, not to qoute other Card works... lol.
 
Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
 
Like Trans-Siberian Orchestra!
 
Posted by Little_Doctor (Member # 6635) on :
 
I kind of like Masters of War by Bob Dylan.
 
Posted by Tresopax (Member # 1063) on :
 
Are we talking an orchestrated theme, or an actual song with lyrics? If a song then something by Radiohead might be a good choice - it would be sufficiently dark, although perhaps too negative.

Or, how about a version of Disarm by the Smashing Pumpkins:

quote:
I used to be a little boy
So old in my shoes
And what I choose is my choice
What's a boy supposed to do
The killer in me is the killer in you
My love - I send a smile over to you


 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
I think an original piece by Lex de Azevedo, Janice Kapp Perry, or Michael McLean could be really good.
 
Posted by RynoW1 (Member # 8365) on :
 
I honestly think that the orchestration for Ender's Game should be by Philip Glass.

Listen to "The Hours" soundtrack and read the book. Its a really cool experience and I think goes perfectly.

I agree about not putting pop music in the movie.
 


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