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Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
I would like to challenge any gamers to send me screenshots from any video game that shows what you think is a good representation of battles from Enders Game or any of the battles in the Shadow books.

[ January 17, 2006, 04:57 PM: Message edited by: Advent 115 ]
 
Posted by Earendil18 (Member # 3180) on :
 
Why?
 
Posted by Eva Scrye (Member # 8960) on :
 
Hmm... toughie. Perhaps something will come up during my FEAR sessions...
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
umm.... Homeworld?
 
Posted by Mark (Member # 6393) on :
 
I'm thinking starcraft, although I'm not going to go to the trouble of actually getting a good screen shot.
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
I recommend Homeworld2 or Starcraft.

But the screenshot does not need to be terrific it just needs to be sent in.

And please be as inventive as you want. This is to see who has the vission to accomplish the task.
 
Posted by Gosu (Member # 5783) on :
 
I'm curious as to how much of Ender's Game you can actually apply to Starcraft. Anybody want to play against me and find out?
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Well the only descriptions of the Enders Game starphips were that they had Cruiers and smaller Fighters, so go nuts. [Smile]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:
This is to see who has the vission to accomplish the task.
Why are you confusing vision with copious free time?
 
Posted by Abyss (Member # 3086) on :
 
The first Homeworld game was actually three dimensional, and the play actually made me think of EG a lot. The second Homeworld game requires ships to be (nearly) on the same horizontal plane to attack one another, making it much less like EG and much more limited. Space was also very large in HW 1, with vast expanses of emptiness. Which I can completely understand being taken out, as empty space makes for bored players, but the first game's space combat was much more realistic feeling, and much more EG feeling.

StarCraft is a great game. I don't think it's anything like anything described in Ender's Game, though.

-Abyss
 
Posted by Gosu (Member # 5783) on :
 
Nevertheless, I feel like playing starcraft multiplayer right now does anybody want to play?
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Thanks for the correction Tom.

And Abyss I see what you mean and I agree. I just never figured out how to take screenshots on Homeworld.

Heres a thought perhaps the level where you have to up against that giant sphere of ships would be a good screenshot of the final Enders Game battle.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
The sphere was Ender's first battle in Command school, I think.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Lucky_Sean (Member # 6223) on :
 
im so gonna zerg rush KEKEKKEKEKEKE
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
True Scott, but the planet battle also had as such a formation.
 
Posted by Eva Scrye (Member # 8960) on :
 
Ah, Homeworld... great game, but I never had the patience to get too far. It's also a very hard game, and if you screw up progressively, you might have to start again from the beginning.
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
True Eva, but if you ever need help with Homeworld 1 or 2 email me.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I screwed up progressively and still won, eventualy i learned i could double the size of my fleet just by stealing their ships. I had like 15-30 salvage thingies.
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Good for you Blayne.

And will you guys get back on topic, come on somebody send me a screenshot here! [Grumble]

[ January 06, 2006, 12:25 PM: Message edited by: Advent 115 ]
 
Posted by Eva Scrye (Member # 8960) on :
 
What sort of 'help' could be offer via e-mail? But yeah, maybe I'll bust it out again one of these days. Such a time-consumer though...

Hehe, but yeah... still no screens.
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
ok I have some advice, goto google, click on images, then type in "Homeworld" and press enter.

[Razz]
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Thats not the point Blayne, the point is to show your personal ideas of what these battles look like, and hey if they turn out well enough maybe OSC himself will tell us his opinion of the screenshots. [Big Grin]

Then again, I can only hope i'm worthy. [Wink]

[ January 08, 2006, 08:59 PM: Message edited by: Advent 115 ]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
quote:
if they turn out well enough maybe OSC himself will tell us his opinion of the screenshots
Why?
 
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
 
So why exactly are we looking for screenshots that fit Ender's Game that actually have nothing to do with EG in the first place? I mean, that's interesting and all, but what do we do with them?
 
Posted by Eva Scrye (Member # 8960) on :
 
Post em. I think he's trying to get people's mind's eye view of what the battles would have looked like.
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Thankyou Eva that is exactly what I'm trying to do, besides the point of getting everyone who visits this board to start thinking of how they view these battles from their own perspectives.

And to Tom, are you nuts who doesn't want OSC to appear on his forum?!?!
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
No. I mean "why would he want to tell us what he thinks of our screenshots," not "why would Advent115 want OSC to pay him some attention." [Smile]
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
He has commented on stranger topics than mine.
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
I demand someone rise to my challenge, now!!!!!
Be you gamers or mice?!?! [Razz]

Sorry if you checked in on this topic to get angry at me, but I just didn't want this topic to disappear from view. [Wink]
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
I WILL ANWSER THY CHALLENGE YE CORPORATE BADGER!

I just installed Homeworld 2, I'll find a suitable scene.
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Thank you. I hope you enjoy what a truly great game it can be. [Big Grin]

Is anyone else brave enough to also step up to the challenge? [Wink]
 
Posted by ender2785 (Member # 9089) on :
 
how about galga?
 
Posted by Sm34rZ (Member # 8609) on :
 
The Curse of Monkey Island. Totally.
 
Posted by Omega M. (Member # 7924) on :
 
These aren't computer games, and they don't literally represent the battles, but I've always felt that the way you deploy and hold back pieces in Icehouse and IceTowers has a similar feel to Ender's battles.

These games are best described as action strategy board games without boards. Each player controls little plastic pyramids of a certain color; and in real time, players pick up and place them to attack other players' pyramids, defend their own, and create formations that score points. The games encourage players to come in with formations or plans of attack, as Ender's battles do (each player can be thought of as controlling an army), and you can play the games on any flat surface with any type of obstacle setup (just as the battle rooms can be outfitted with different formations of "stars"). You can also play by using giant pyramids and running around the room moving them, which makes the Ender battle parallels more visible.

I told OSC about this in person once; I don't know if he ever followed up on it.
 


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