Though im sure that the enders game movie will be great, I am dreading the whole series, for the same reason I was dreading the LOTR movies. Ok bad example how about the matrix movies? I think that if you make all the books into movie then it will fall into the same funk as matrix, The first movie will be amazing, great awsome special effects, just great. But the second and third movies bombed at the box offices and they came out to be mediocure films with too many special effects. And Im dreading that the enders game will become mediocure(this thing needs spell check )movies that no one likes...your thoughts?
Posted by Sergeant (Member # 8749) on :
The problem with the sequels to The Matrix was they lacked a story that held ones interest.
Sergeant
Posted by Occasional (Member # 5860) on :
Frankly, I hope they don't make any other movies beyond Enders Game. The others are not movie material. I do not count the Ender's Shadow series in this assessment, as the few I have read could be filmed. However, I don't find them as memorable or as important as the actual Ender series.
Posted by beanelricyr (Member # 8793) on :
yes, after Ender's game theirs no need to continue movies. The Speaker series is too boring to do well as a film(i mean in film terms.) and while the shadow series would kick ass, this would undermine Ender's charchter and make it seem as if the entire point of all the films was to tell BEAN'S story.
Posted by Hank (Member # 8916) on :
I would love to see the shadow series filmed. When I read Ender's game, I thought it was a good book, but most of the shadow series I thought, "This is a good movie...Oh, wait, it's a book."
Posted by Descolada Survivor (Member # 9019) on :
I dont know I really want to see the piggies on the big screen
Posted by A Rat Named Dog (Member # 699) on :
quote:I dont know I really want to see the piggies on the big screen
Especially the insides of the piggies.
Posted by A Rat Named Dog (Member # 699) on :
Though a Lusitania TV show might be fun Posted by Descolada Survivor (Member # 9019) on :
Like a game show? "Who dies First!?!" thats the title and the can have three human contestants and if they dont answer the questions right they get eaten my the descoloda. That would be an awsome game show Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
I think a great Lusitania horror would be ATTACK OF THE EVIL TALKING TREES!!!. That would be amazing.
Posted by Descolada Survivor (Member # 9019) on :
Nice! Or ATTACK OF THE SHORT LITTLE PIG-LIKE BEINGS AND THEIR EVIL TELEPATHIC TREES OF DEATH!!!!!!!!part:2
Posted by Black Mage (Member # 5800) on :
DS, mate, I think if they're real piggies, the human contestants will get killed if they answer the questions right (and are too compassionate for their own good, of course).
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
You consider The Matrix Reloaded, which made over 281 million domestic and over 738 million worldwide to have bombed? You realize that it actually made a fair bit more money than the original, right? Even The Matrix Revolution's 139 million domestic and 425 million worldwide isn't exactly bad. In fact, it's only slightly less than the original. All things considered, the Matrix trilogy was a major success which studios would love to emulate!
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I consider Matrix Reloaded to have sucked. I don't care how much it made.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
Fair enough. I'm just saying that it didn't bomb.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
If your goal is to make money, then it was a success.
If your goal is to create a story that affects people in some way, then it bombed.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
I was refuting the claim that it "bombed at the box office". Besides, I personally enjoy all 3 of the Matrix films.
Posted by tms (Member # 9017) on :
I'm convinced all the Enderverse novels are adaptable in the sense that something must happen to all novels before they become screenplays. The characters, themes, swashbuckle and romance are there throughout and the larger questions that define these works as such seminal stuff are allowed to rise from circumstance and action, all good movie fodder. It must however be adapted cleverly for film, and then I spose the necessary suits with the cash must not be allowed to sway any of the artistic reins of what, if it did become a movie franchise, would be a very powerful juggernaut.
What I consider essential to any proposed sequels to Ender's Game the movie, is that they unfold as the novels did, with a growing loss of innocence and gaining of knowledge about the universe in the next few thousand years, perhaps even shreds of wisdom, though such things must normally be sugar-coated for modern audiences not to recoil, (indeed sugar-coat away, I wanna see some Formic explosions), and that they bother casting in Australia.
In possible movie sequels, could not the Shadow series be told alongside additional narratives such as the delicious shorts in First Meetings? Before we even get to the piggies?
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
It depends on the polls, if Beans very very popular then the Shadow Series I think may come first but I'ld much prefer for either series to become a Space Channel Mini Series or full length 5 season thing. With some fleshing could each book be stretched over 24 (on average) episodes?
Posted by tms (Member # 9017) on :
It'd be a cool thing boss. Bean's Rotterdam experience, and this seems partially obvious as I type, would have to be be traumatic for the audience as well for us to stall our hearts while he makes the grand leap through Battle School to the moment he grasps his low-down with love, Petra and the grand web.
Petra; surely a Taurean.
Posted by Descolada Survivor (Member # 9019) on :
I guess they could put Speaker and Xenocide in the same movie, but would that make the movie to jam packed with action, that you miss the real story? I guess it's probably not a good idea because the movie would go to fast and you'd lose the story-line in all the action.
Posted by Descolada Survivor (Member # 9019) on :
quote:if it did become a movie franchise, would be a very powerful juggernaut.
I agree it would definatly be very a very powerful series but would anyone who hasn't read the books(ok that was bad grammar ) get the story?
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
As much as I would personally enjoy any film adaptation of the books (being such a big fan and all) I have serious doubts that any of them except for EG/ES could be done very well. The Speaker books don't have a lot happening in them from a film point of view. They're mostly dialogue and ideas. That's not a criticism. They're great books, but for films, I think that only people who are aleady fans would really be able to get into them. As for the Shadow books, they have more action, but somehow I don't see them as working well either. I can't quite explain why at the moment. Maybe I just lack imagination. Yeah, that's probably it.
Posted by tms (Member # 9017) on :
I doubt you lack imagination neo, or you wouldn't be here.
I have the same fears that you and Mr Survivor have over possible adaptations, and I use the word fear because the stories hold sacred territory for us.
Maybe:
If the books a) were adapted by a brilliant screenwiter who happened to be a fan; who could distill the novels into cinematic action (and let's not forget neo, that the most domestic of human thoughts and interactions can be made into dramatic film action by a kick-arse team), and b) captured the addictive 'reveal of information' structure or 'loss of innocence/gaining of wisdom' as I have called it in a previous post, that the novels contain, we might have a mind-expanding cinema experience on our hands that doesn't need to rely on a former audience.
(Our response to the smile-inducing fan art of late reminds me of how correct OSC'S predictions about gaming and children have been, and yet how much room he allows for our own impositions. ie. 'that's not how I saw Ender but man I can sure see him lookin like that'.
My guts, and I like trusting them, say that the story could pick up it's own momentum, even starting at zero, if handled correctly. I haven't felt that way since the rumours of a third Fletch movie.
I realise our odds on all this happening are silly and not just because of standard Hollywood mechanisations but because as many of us know brilliant films and brilliant books are different beasts.
Look how square I'm talkin now that I've realised some of you cats couldn't understand me. Apart from schoolboy Dutch I never learned me no new language before, I'm enjoying it.
Posted by Blackfaer (Member # 7624) on :
The Shadow series could be easily adapted as sequels to EG by having Ender and/or Val in a narration-esque role looking back on the past that they missed by flying around in a manner similar to Ender writing the Hive Queen and The Hegemon. I don't know that the continuation of books in Ender's series could really shape into films that would do the books justice in the least. On the other hand, OSC has numerous other books that hopefully will someday be made into great movies...
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