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Posted by rniss (Member # 8704) on :
 
I noticed something funny while roaming the site.

I've seen that new merchandising from the Ender's game armies is now available. I had already seen in previous visits the Dragon and Rat T-Shirts and was surprised to find out that two new armies have been included, Phoenix and Salamander.

O.k, now check this link:


http://quizilla.com/users/Laenan/quizzes/In%20which%20army%20should%20you%20be%3F%20Ender's%20game%20quiz/


It is a quizz I posted in this forum a few months ago and was honoured to have OSC taking it. Now go through it (answer and have fun) and check the images of the results (to see all the images go down and click the see all results button). And, surprise! Salamander and Phoenix images are almost identical to the ones included in the official merchandising.

I'm not claiming anything, the images are not mine. I got them from a friend who found them in some guy's personal website. But I am shocked to find them here and I'd like to know how it happened.
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Cool, I'm most fit for Dragon Army. [Cool]
 
Posted by cheiros do ender (Member # 8849) on :
 
maybe "some guy" was Orson Scott Card. [Wink] I was a Rat. Was Ender, or Bean, ever in Rat Army?
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Bean may have been, but Enders was only in Phoenix and Salamander before he got command of Dragon.
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
What are you saying!!! <shocked, shocked shocked to death> [Wink] Ender WAS in Rat Army, Dink Meeker wanted to have him. It was after the Salamander and before the Phoenix.
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
What are you saying!!! <shocked, shocked shocked to death> [Wink] Ender WAS in Rat Army, Dink Meeker wanted to have him. It was after the Salamander and before the Phoenix.
 
Posted by rniss (Member # 8704) on :
 
Of course Ender was a Rat!! (Fave part of the story, hehe...)

Anyway, I'm quite sure "some guy" is not OSC. And it doesn't make sense, the Rat and Dragon graphics are completely different from the ones I used. They were designed long before I posted the images here. Only the new ones, Phoenix and Salamander are alike.

Funny, isn't it?
 
Posted by Catseye1979 (Member # 5560) on :
 
Nice... I'm a Rabbit
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Was he? Its been a while since I've read Enders Game, sorry about that. [Dont Know]
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Haha. My Army would eat yours alive Cat.


And not even break a sweat. [Laugh]
 
Posted by rniss (Member # 8704) on :
 
Err... maybe I'm hunting for an answer from OSC... but I'd really like to know.
 
Posted by Joldo (Member # 6991) on :
 
I'm a Phoenix. Lovely.
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
I'm a Rabbit too... <sniff, sniff> I wanted to be in Ender's Army sooo muuuuuch!!!!

Hmm. At least we Rabbits have a great commander, not like the Salamanders. :>
 
Posted by rniss (Member # 8704) on :
 
Dragon is not that obvious to get, isn't it? XD I'm glad.
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
Yeah... I think I'll just go and find somebody to procreate with. It's the habbit of a rabbit [Wink]
 
Posted by Miro (Member # 1178) on :
 
The 'guy' might be Darian Robbins. He's the one who created the designs that OSC is now selling and he has (or had) a website with some of the artwork on it.
 
Posted by Reticulum (Member # 8776) on :
 
I am a Phoenix. I could kick anyone's butt.
 
Posted by Descolada Survivor (Member # 9019) on :
 
Wow I'm Phoenix, and it fits me quite well. [Cool]
 
Posted by Chris Kidd (Member # 2646) on :
 
I don't need a test to tell me what army i am . I know i'm Gryphon, Leopard, Condor. since those are the armies ive commanded at one time or another.
 
Posted by rniss (Member # 8704) on :
 
Thanks Miro for the information.
 
Posted by SoaPiNuReYe (Member # 9144) on :
 
Dragon haha. The Thin Red Line rox.
 
Posted by SoaPiNuReYe (Member # 9144) on :
 
Yo chris do u live in Manassas?
 
Posted by Chris Kidd (Member # 2646) on :
 
No i live in Santa Rosa, California.
 
Posted by Measure (Member # 8473) on :
 
me? i'm a dragon...Heecckk Yes!!
 
Posted by Aryei (Member # 9025) on :
 
wascawwy wabbit here. thumpthumpthumpthumpthump ... aaaah. what a relief it is, slapping the hind leg. thumpthumpthumpthumpthump
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Originally posted by Reticulum:
"I am a Phoenix. I could kick anyone's butt."

You could never beat Dragon Army. Period.

And welcome SoaPiNuReYe and Measure to the only Army that counts. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Locke2525 (Member # 7554) on :
 
spider army...
odd
i am rather afraid of them, no matter the size..they scare the crap out of me
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
Advent... you simply had to rub it in, hadn't you? [Wink]

Aryei, we rabbits must keep together [Smile] Rabbits' Defense Fraction!
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Hey, does anyone remember the armies colors?

All I remember is Phoenix, Dragon, and Salamander.
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
there probably weren't any others mentioned... except for Rat, maybe, but I don't remember them, heheh
 
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
 
Condor - black, white, black
Rat- black, brown, ???

I think that was all mentioned in the actual books, but you could guess at some others, like Badger and Tide and Scorpion.

What I want to know is how come Centipede Army isn't on the aptitude thingy. Centipedes rock my socks off.
 
Posted by xxsockeh (Member # 9186) on :
 
I got Dragon. [Big Grin]

Woohoo! [Razz]
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Welcome to the greatest Army in existance xxsockeh. [Cool]
 
Posted by xxsockeh (Member # 9186) on :
 
Lol, thanks Advent. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Boothby171 (Member # 807) on :
 
Whenever I read about the "Tide" army colors, I always think Blue, Orange, Yellow...

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Geekazoid99 (Member # 8254) on :
 
Ha Ha Yes i Got Dragon yes

YAH
 
Posted by lisha_rose (Member # 9166) on :
 
dragon here as well
 
Posted by lisha_rose (Member # 9166) on :
 
dragon here as well
 
Posted by lisha_rose (Member # 9166) on :
 
ack sorry computer hates me right this second
 
Posted by Rake (Member # 9195) on :
 
Dragon!
 
Posted by Rake (Member # 9195) on :
 
And, hello! First post with this name and first post at all for a long time.
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Sweet! We have a Hatracker from Sweden? Cool. Hey, is it true that all swedish women are really beautiful?

(just curious [Wink] )
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
Naaaah, I'm sure not.... Now, _Polish_ women on the other hand... [Wink]
khem, khem... just for information [Big Grin]

('I'm so lonely! Lone-lone-lone-lone-lonely!')

Back to the thread: Down with Dragons! Up Rabbits!!!
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
HA! We Dragons will roast every one of you Rabbits and feast on your flesh.

DRAGON, DRAGON, DRAGON!!!!
 
Posted by Rake (Member # 9195) on :
 
Well, I don't know if ALL swedish women are beautiful. Quite many, though.
[Wink]
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
More than here in the USA or about the same?
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
RABBIT RABBIT RABBIT
the most viscious monster you've ever seen with very sharp teeth tssss tssss
your teeny weeny Dragon is no match for RABBIT the MIGHTY!!!!
 
Posted by Jasmine (Member # 7370) on :
 
Woo! Dragon [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
Where's the test? I'd like to take it.
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by oolung:
RABBIT RABBIT RABBIT
the most viscious monster you've ever seen with very sharp teeth tssss tssss
your teeny weeny Dragon is no match for RABBIT the MIGHTY!!!!

HA and HA again! Like a PUNY LITTLE BUNNY RABBIT could ever harm the invincible, undeafeated Dragon army! We are commanded by Ender Wiggin! Who do you have?


(openly taunts Rabbits) [Evil]
 
Posted by Rake (Member # 9195) on :
 
(answering Advent)
I'm not really sure about that...
Well, since I've only been in the US for about a month in my live, I don't have much to compare with. Sorry [Smile]
Changed my mind. Definitely more!
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
Aaaadveeeeennnnnt <very delicately waking Advent from his sweet dreams or whatever> Aaaaadveennttt...


BEWARE NOW, THOU PITIFUL DRAGON! REPENT YE! THE INVINCIBLE POWER OF RABBIT WILL STRIKE YE DOWN! ON YOUR KNEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNTTTTTTTT FOR THE LIBELS YOU DARED TO SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ender Wiggin is gooooooooooonnnnnneeeeeeee off to another world and what will you do now, all by yourself, you little crawling reptile?! Rabbits will defeat you if only by the sheer force of number (remember, we're really good at prolificating).

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
Does anyone besides me remember that BS closed?

If it was still open then it would be like this:
(I don't know what army I'm in so I'm neutral)
Dragon
Phoenix
Salamander
Rat
Rabbit

Thats saying IF Ender is in Dragon and Bonzo is in Salamander and Dink is in Rat and Petra is in Phoenix. I can't remember what army Bean was in, I think it was Phoenix, not sure.

(MAJOR time errors but I'm taking them from when they were at their best)
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
Jeesh...
you CRUSHED me. We had so much fun arguing (khem) whose army is better... and now you came along and reminded us we're in no army at all, 'cause BT is closed... How COULD you?! [Wink]
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
Hey, in the minds of true EG fans, Battle School Never closes.
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
ok, you calmed me [Smile] I'll just get on with it, shall I? (yup, that's what they call being in denial)
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
LOL
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
True Jeesh, so true.

And anyways Dragon shall always be remembered as the last great army.

Rabbit on the other hand is forever the only army to ever have a perfect no win record under their last commander. While Dragon never lost a "Single" battle under our final commander.
[Taunt]
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
yeah, but that's because rabbits under their last and may I say BRILLIANT commander were envelope-pushers and tried to change the system so that it actually worked! Not like some other armies which thought that victory was the only thing that mattered.
(hmmm, is that how you say it? I hope it is...)

By the way - it's crucial that you write of Dragon's victories under their _last_ commander. Let me remind you that before Dragon was so weak they had to wind it up. Which is not the case with Rabbit [Razz]
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
I just joined Phoenix, we will rock you all.

*We Will Rock You in background*
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
In answer to both oolung and Jeesh * WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS begins to play*

Now are you ready to face the wrath of the Dragon! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
Oh please. You guys are like those dragons who get old, lazy, and can't even breathe fire or fly. Phoenixes, we're like the phoenix from Harry Potter.
 
Posted by SiriusSky (Member # 9216) on :
 
O.K so I couldn't decide between two different answers so I took it twice. So I'd either be in Phoenix or Dragon.
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
NO CAN DO, Sirius (to quote Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels). It's a war. You've got to choose a side! [Big Grin]

Dragon... dragon... what is a dragon of not an oversized lizzard... probably on some illegal drugs or something... what's to brag about...
[Razz]

Jeesh, we should gang up on him! You attack from the air. I'll bite his tail off!
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
Yeah!!!!!! C'mon!!!
 
Posted by SiriusSky (Member # 9216) on :
 
Fine, oolung, I choose Dragon. It sounds more like me, anyhow.

...you two remember... we still can breath fire [Razz]
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
We will, we will rock you...
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
YES!!!! Another is added to our ranks! We grow stronger every time someone take that test. While you only become weaker. And as to the drugs thing, we Dragons don't need such things. Invision us as the flying demons of your worst nightmares! We shall consume you all! For we are DRAGON!

*starts a chant of Dragon, Dragon amongst the massive legions of Dragons* [Evil Laugh]
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
*laughs at puny dragons*
 
Posted by SiriusSky (Member # 9216) on :
 
Advent: do I really have to do the chant?
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
See, your own comrads are reluctant to fight on puny Dragon.
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
No. And so what Jeesh, at least we have more than two people on our team. [Evil Laugh]
 
Posted by SiriusSky (Member # 9216) on :
 
I am not, in any way, reluctant to fight for Dragon, Jeesh!!! I'm just not crazy about the whole creepy chant thing of Advent's.

[ March 13, 2006, 08:07 AM: Message edited by: SiriusSky ]
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
We kinda get used to him, after a while.
 
Posted by SiriusSky (Member # 9216) on :
 
Yeah, I picked up on that one early on.
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
[Laugh]
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
Or maybe you're the 'Shrek'-Donkey's-Fiancee kind of Dragons...?

And remember: dragons have extincted long, long ago, while we rabbits are still doing fine [Razz] Does that tell you anything about being adaptable? [Smile]

(the only thing you can scare us with is your HORRIBLE chanting. Oh, come ON!!!!!) [Smile]
 
Posted by SiriusSky (Member # 9216) on :
 
How do you know that we Dragons are extinct, huh!?! HUH!?! There's no way to know because we're mythical & legendary creatures full of mystery.

But I have to agree that chanting would scare anyone.
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
*We will, we will rock you*
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
if you're not extinct...

than you will soon BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE......AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
<grim, sonorous laugh>

don't you 'huh' me! [Razz]
 
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
 
Dragons aren't extinct--they just aren't real. [Razz]
 
Posted by Jimbo the Clown (Member # 9251) on :
 
Oolong, what's all the creepy shouting for? You scare me, crazy Rabbit. May Monty Python throw a grenade at you and your Jeesh. [Evil Laugh]
I'm a Rat by the way. [The Wave] Look forward to facin' ya in the Battle Room.
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
No, no, no, this is an exclusively anti-Dragon campain. I don't want any fight with Rats, ok? (so don't go round threatening me with saint grenades, or I'll say ni to you).

Creepy shouting?
...sorry, did I get too emotional? I must've got carried away [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jimbo the Clown (Member # 9251) on :
 
No problem, Oolung. Sorry about the Grenade o' Antioch threat. I was in a bit of a rowdy mood.
 
Posted by Jeesh (Member # 9163) on :
 
When I count to ten, Dragons shall be no more!


One, two, five...
 
Posted by lisha_rose (Member # 9166) on :
 
crispyfries jeesh while he isnt lookin
ha now what [Razz]
 
Posted by I Am The War Chief (Member # 9266) on :
 
Salamander - if anyone ever read the book they could anwser how the characters in the book did like if u were confronted by a bully - lol these questions were to typical to mean anything try anwsering them honestly then gimme a shout
ps only reason theres lots of beautiful swedish people is because untill the 1970's the had policies of euginics - they have since apologized for that but the affect to the gene pool was done [Smile] VIVA LA CANADIENS! VIVA VIVA
 
Posted by Rake (Member # 9195) on :
 
Hey!! (and what does "euginics" mean anyway?) [Smile]
 
Posted by Jimbo the Clown (Member # 9251) on :
 
*pulls out giant hammer; beans lisha with it.*
ten.
 
Posted by I Am The War Chief (Member # 9266) on :
 
Euginics is when u only let certain people have children so that only the best of each gene pool gets passed down to future generations. The problem is who decides what is best? Hitler thought it was his aryans shrugs not accusing them of being like hitler they were only sterilizing people with mental diseases and genetic deformaties
 
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
 
Do you mean Eugenics?
 
Posted by I Am The War Chief (Member # 9266) on :
 
Thats the stuff,
 
Posted by I Am The War Chief (Member # 9266) on :
 
and qouted from this link
"Critics argue that eugenics is a pseudoscience. Historically, eugenics has been used as a justification for coercive state-sponsored discrimination, and severe human rights violations, such as forced sterilization and even genocide."
 
Posted by lisha_rose (Member # 9166) on :
 
puts jeesh in deepfreeze the only known killer of phoenix's muahahahahah <evil laugh>
 
Posted by Rake (Member # 9195) on :
 
Oh. Well that is actually true. For a period of time, forced sterilization was actually practiced in Sweden. Long time ago now, though.
 
Posted by I Am The War Chief (Member # 9266) on :
 
SAlamander reveals the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, the only known killer of rabbits and then cooks up a nice stew for dinner mmmmmmmmmmmm rabbit
 
Posted by Jimbo the Clown (Member # 9251) on :
 
Nooooo!!!! Not jeesh! I'll avenge you, fellow dragon slayer!
*Random machine-gun-laser fire*
 
Posted by lisha_rose (Member # 9166) on :
 
lol oh man what have i started [ROFL]
 
Posted by Jimbo the Clown (Member # 9251) on :
 
Um, Lisha? One of my errant shots hit that huge pipe in the corner by the thing that says 'gravity regulator'. Is that bad?
 
Posted by I Am The War Chief (Member # 9266) on :
 
ARGH RABBITS MATING TO QUICKLY NEED RE ENFORCEMENTS!!! Anybody?!?!?!?! SALAMANDER AVENGE ME!!!!!!!
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
You mean reinforcement to mate?

ME! ME! ME!

<oolung strikes back like a thunderbolt from the skies to knock down all the ungodly armies, ie. Dragon>
 
Posted by Advent 115 (Member # 8914) on :
 
Ha, we are gods amongst you puny beasts oolung! And if you need reinforcements leader of war chief then we the Great Dragons shall be glad to crispify every last Rabbit and eat them for you... in exchange for your alliance to our cause/or staying out of our conflict with the other armies.

*burns the leagons of Rabbits into fields of burning fur and flesh*

We have now hepled you out of your crisis, now either leave us to our war against the other armies or ally your fellow Salamanders with our great Dragons and help us to wipe out our foes.

(I suggest joining your fellow reptilians to wipe out these weak mammals and birds) [Wink]
 
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
 
Hah! I'd like to see you try crispifying a Phoenix!
 
Posted by I Am The War Chief (Member # 9266) on :
 
Allegiances Sworn Now lets hunt these wasky rabbits
HUhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh
 
Posted by Wusong101 (Member # 9292) on :
 
I am in the Phoenix army!
 
Posted by Jimbo the Clown (Member # 9251) on :
 
Welcome. Here's your badge.
*hands wusong a badge with ~Born to Hunt Dragons~ emblazoned across a Phoenix crest.*
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
Advent, are you actually trying to make me change sides?

Huh, maybe you Dragons are prone to betray your allies, but it's not in Rabbits' habit! [Razz]

Be stricken with the power of my moral integrity!
 
Posted by gsim (Member # 9316) on :
 
Cool, i got rat!
 
Posted by MidnightBlue (Member # 6146) on :
 
I'm dragon.
 
Posted by Wusong101 (Member # 9292) on :
 
I'm sorry Midnight.
 
Posted by Dog Walker (Member # 8301) on :
 
Ha, we are gods amongst you puny beasts oolung! And if you need reinforcements leader of war chief then we the Great Dragons shall be glad to crispify every last Rabbit and eat them for you... in exchange for your alliance to our cause/or staying out of our conflict with the other armies. Advent

Advent have you ever seen Monty Python? The rabbit in that move could kill any Dragon. [Smile]
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
Well, our army is exactly THAT rabbit's ruthless and vicious progeny [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jimbo the Clown (Member # 9251) on :
 
I forget my army. I just know... *throws a grenade* that I like Kentucky Fried Dragon... anyone else want one? *holds up a wing*
 
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
 
Yuck. Dragon is disgusting enough without Kentucky-frying it.
 
Posted by unknown mind reader (Member # 9379) on :
 
Has anyone noticed yet that Card's books have opened a railroad into the world like Star Wars and Planet of Apes did? Everyone is wishing he or she were in a specific army or what they would say to Ender if they met him.
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
yeah, I've noticed... it was especially clear to me one night (many many years ago) when I was too tired to get up from my bed and close the door, so I... well, I tried to close it by using the philotic threads... why would it be possible to contact a DOOR by philotic thread, I've no idea...
[Big Grin]
 


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