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Posted by Shaman (Member # 9406) on :
 
My list is not in order but in the people who should have the opportunity to be casted to the role?

Long List

Ben Kingsley
Chow Yun Fat
Bruce Willis
Don Cheadle
Gabriel Byrne
John Malkovich
Ken Watanabe
Scott Glenn
Robin Williams
Mickey Rourke
Patrick Stewart
Scott Glenn


Short List names are:

Ben Kingsley
Chow Yun Fat
Ken Watanabe
Scott Glenn

Shaman
 
Posted by Pythian%Legume (Member # 9405) on :
 
We'll all go crazy going through that list, my friend. I think it's too hard to tell. Mazer has to be kinda... OLD, so you can rule out alot of those people. I think we can ESPECIALLY rule out Robin Williams.
 
Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
 
I disagree. Robin Williams CAN be excellent if given the right script. I could see him playing the part.

But Shaman, I can't believe you left out the absolute best person for the role: Morgan Freeman. He's perfect, and in my opinion, one of the best and most underrated actors alive. Even in crappy movies he manages to shine.

Actually, as I look over your list again I can't help wondering if this is your attempt at sarcasm? Bruce Willis? Patrick Stewart? Could you have picked worse actors?
 
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
 
now that I think about it Ian Mckillen could do a good job
 
Posted by BlackBlade (Member # 8376) on :
 
Christopher Walken end of story.
 
Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
Christopher Walken end of story.

Now THAT I'd pay to see.

I gotta have more cowbell!
 
Posted by Luet13 (Member # 9274) on :
 
Mickey Rourke? [ROFL]
Robin Williams would not be so great.
Christopher Walken is a little too creepy for my taste. (Too creepy as Mazer, for his previous roles creepy is obviously good.)
I like the idea of Morgan Freeman. Definitely could work.
 
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
 
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Become wise in the ways of the Search. [Wink]

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Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
 
Yes, but I'm lazy, and this one was already here.
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
Some cool dude no one knows.
 
Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
 
Morgan Freeman undoubtedly, but if worst comes to worst...


Sean Connery!!

oh yeah!
 
Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
 
oh crud, its all been said.
 
Posted by calaban (Member # 2516) on :
 
Rawiri Paratene

The grandfather in Whale Rider.
 
Posted by Mark (Member # 6393) on :
 
Sean Connery is the best name on the list IMHO. A lot of these others don't strike me as tough enough to play Rackman.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Ben Kingsley is certainly tough enough, and Sean Connery isn't anymore.
 
Posted by Juxtapose (Member # 8837) on :
 
I'll second Nathaniel Lees (from that other thread).
 
Posted by Numinor West (Member # 9375) on :
 
Shaman: its funny that you ask this because this is one of the rare characters in Ender's Game that I always imagine a certain character playing the role. His name is...

Kris Kristofferson - the old dude in Blade.
I just googled him and now I know his is also a singer / songwriter. Huh.
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
Christopher Walken end of story.

* In Christopher Walken Cadence*


So... ENDER... You wanna kill the buggers huh?

WOW!... You made the hard choice.

YOU made the hard choice.

You MADE the hard choice.

YOU made the HARD choice.

You made the hard CHOICE.

WOW!


I think it should be George Clooney
 
Posted by Numinor West (Member # 9375) on :
 
I can picture a thin George Clooney as Mazer
Also Kurt Russell

Hey, how about Russell Crowe as Graff?
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
I think it should be George Clooney
How about Sarah Michelle Geller?
 
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
 
I like Sarah Jessica Parker better. Can't you just see her ordering Ender around?
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by calaban:
Rawiri Paratene

The grandfather in Whale Rider.

Yeah! Him! He's cool! And rather unknowned! I'm all for unknowned.

I rather picture Mazer as a skinny tough sort of dude. Tall, skinny with stubble and long greyish hair.
Like that dude that does kung fu. I like him.
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:
I think it should be George Clooney
How about Sarah Michelle Geller?
:facepalm: Why do you mock me so?
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
Keifer Sutherland for Mazer and Donald Sutherland for Graff.

Done.
 
Posted by Stephan (Member # 7549) on :
 
John Schneider
 
Posted by Vazor (Member # 9267) on :
 
I don't know why, but I'm thinking Liam Neesen. It just works, in my head.
 
Posted by MightyCow (Member # 9253) on :
 
Sarah Michelle Geller is a good choice. This movie needs more eye candy. I think Scarlette Johansen could fit in there as well. Maybe she could be Bean?
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:
I think it should be George Clooney
How about Sarah Michelle Geller?
:facepalm: Why do you mock me so?
Because you said you thought George Clooney should play the part of Mazer.

I'm trying to think of a better reason to mock somebody.

I'm failing.
 
Posted by SteveRogers (Member # 7130) on :
 
What about the big black guy with the deep voice for Graff? I think his name is Michael Clarke Duncan...
 
Posted by rollainm (Member # 8318) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vazor:
I don't know why, but I'm thinking Liam Neesen. It just works, in my head.

That would be interesting. I imagine him as a better personality match for Graff, though.
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SteveRogers:
What about the big black guy with the deep voice for Graff? I think his name is Michael Clarke Duncan...

Goliath from the Gargoyles? He's too... sinister. Although a black Graff might be interesting.

Maybe lawrence fishburn?... Avery Brooks?

Go ahead MPH, laugh it up, I don't care. At least I never watched buffy. [Razz]
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
David Caradine. He's cool.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
Go ahead MPH, laugh it up, I don't care. At least I never watched buffy.
Are you referencing that as a good thing or a bad thing?
 
Posted by PUNJABEE (Member # 7359) on :
 
You guys are going by good actors (which is a good strategy) but you have to have someone that *looks* battlehardened.

Like say, Michael Ironside as Mazer Rackham.

For Graff..hmm...Liam Neeson.
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:
Go ahead MPH, laugh it up, I don't care. At least I never watched buffy.
Are you referencing that as a good thing or a bad thing?
If you don't know... I can't explain it to you.
 
Posted by Schwartz (Member # 9339) on :
 
Sean Connery. I could sooo see him doing it.
 
Posted by SoaPiNuReYe (Member # 9144) on :
 
Morgan Freeman is a good choice in my mind. He's one of those actors that can play both the poor black guy on the streets and at the same time look very authoritive. However I can't see him fighting Ender(Literally) and while he is a good actor a lot of people would be surprised to see him do a movie like Ender's Game. I'm sure that the part where Mazer actually wrestles Ender could be edited out but I still couldn't see Morgan Freeman doing a role like Mazer's. Sean Connery seems like a better choice to me. Mazer is one of those characters that is serious when he wants to be but at the same time has funny side, much like Sean Connery. If only we could get rid of that accent...
As for Graff I always pictured him as Tom Sizemore, which is possibly the worst choice for Graff ever...
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
Richard Dean Anderson as Mazer, for sure.
 
Posted by comp_u_geek (Member # 9378) on :
 
uh okay call me stupid but will someone tell me who will play Ender... or does anyone know.
 
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
 
Haley Joel Osment or Jake Lloyd, of course. [Wink]
 
Posted by Atlantis (Member # 8788) on :
 
Anthony Hopkins would be a great Mazer. He would also make a brilliant Ender, if only he was 60 years younger...
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
If I had to choose from your propositions, than Morgan Freeman and Ken Watanabe [Smile]

But then I always imagined Mazer as having a kind of... wild feeling about him, and for example A.Hopkins (much as I adore him) is simply too elegant! (hmmm... on consideration, no he's not! I was just thinking the Mask of Zorro. I should be thinking Hannibal Lecter!!! [Big Grin] )

I think Christopher Lee would be awesome as Mazer. AND he has _the_voice_ [Big Grin]

Why not Mary-Kate Olsen as Ender and Ashley as Valentine. Or Bean. Or Whoever. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
Are you insinuating that Hannibal Lecter played by Hopkins was anything less than elegant? Maybe you should watch it again, because that guy has excellent manners, for a cannibal anyway.
 
Posted by David C. (Member # 9415) on :
 
Edward James Olmos (Adama from Battlestar Galactica, for those that don't recognize the name) would make a great Graff.

For Mazer, how about Malcolm McDowell?
 
Posted by RunningBear (Member # 8477) on :
 
Lecter would fit it.

but not as well as Sean Connery!
 
Posted by DinkMeeker101 (Member # 9433) on :
 
if ian mckellen could kick ender's ass i might pick him [Smile]
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Orincoro:
quote:
Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head:
quote:
Go ahead MPH, laugh it up, I don't care. At least I never watched buffy.
Are you referencing that as a good thing or a bad thing?
If you don't know... I can't explain it to you.
That I believe.
 
Posted by TrapperKeeper (Member # 7680) on :
 
adam sandler
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Last night I was trying to figure out what Adam Sandler movie I had just flipped to. It took me a while to realize it was Speed, and that it was Keanu Reeves, not Adam Sandler.
 
Posted by oolung (Member # 8995) on :
 
Vonk, I'm not saying Lecter was NOT elegant, but he did have that strange "wilderness" in him that Diego de la Vega _definitely_ lacks [Smile]
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
I guess I can see where your coming from. He did eat a guys tongue right out of his mouth and then wear his face for a mask. Heck! What high society is that not classy in?
 
Posted by JoeNobody (Member # 9476) on :
 
Mazer Rackham could be played by a variety of people, but i think that he needs to have a old, scruffy, war weared look to him. Ian McKellen is my first choice.


If not than consider some actor with a Clint Eastwood kind of look. Maybe even Clint Eastwood.
 


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