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Posted by Shnabubula (Member # 9834) on :
 
Hey guys check this out. It's a 41 minute composition based on ender's game. Each movement is named for the chapter it begins and ends in:

www.arnoldascher.com/Ender/

If this is innapropriate to post in this forum, I apologize it and ask that it be deleted of course but I just wanted to share this with fellow card devotees like myself.

EDIT:

Here are all the themes in an improvisation Piano Suite used to link the original piece with the book:

www.arnoldascher.com/Piano/Ender/

[ January 18, 2007, 05:26 AM: Message edited by: Shnabubula ]
 
Posted by Launchywiggin (Member # 9116) on :
 
Hey, Welcome to Hatrack! [Wave]

I think the compositions are fascinating--and just a tad out there.

Ok, way out there...but some of them are quite beautiful.

I wonder what OSC will think of them.
 
Posted by Steev (Member # 6805) on :
 
Program music. Nice.

What equiptment did you use to make the recordings?
 
Posted by Launchywiggin (Member # 9116) on :
 
Second listen:

I think the suite as a whole lacks unity. I feel it's a bit too disjointed and varied. Surprisingly--I like the electronic stuff more than the ethereal/impressionistic orchestra stuff, which is pretty, but not "Ender's Game" to me.

Very cool, though--thanks for posting.
 
Posted by Steev (Member # 6805) on :
 
I disagree with Launchywiggin's assessment of unity. I've listened to it 4 times already and I like how it moves in and out of the orchestra to electronic. It reminds me a lot of rock operas. I feel like there is a bit of ELP influence in there. I see a lot of thematic unity as well, which really holds it together for me.

As to what is "Ender's Game", I would agree with Launchywiggin's and say that very little of it is for me too. However, when considering the comparison of my personal impressions of a novel and impressions of what I feel a musical work would be and some other persons impressions of the novel and what their impression of music expresses those impression, <*breath*> I don't expect anyone to ever agree on what is "Ender's Game" music. Despite whatever inspired it or whatever it's based on figurative or literally, I believe the piece can stand on it's own even if it were called something else.

Nice job.
 
Posted by Shnabubula (Member # 9834) on :
 
Hey, thanks for the feedback guys! Much appreciated.

I'm just relieved it wasn't innapropriate to post the song here.
 
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
 
Someone stole my idea... GRRRRR


V seems very stravinskian... actually most of this suite sounds stravinskian, but with less thematic unity or distinctive polyphony.
 
Posted by Shnabubula (Member # 9834) on :
 
Orin man... look don't let this stop you, please STILL write YOUR Ender's Game Suite!

There can be two... heck, there can be three hundred
different ones. I implore you man... go for it!
 
Posted by Sergeant (Member # 8749) on :
 
Doh, my university blocked the site so I'll have to wait until I get home to listen.

Sergeant
 
Posted by Shnabubula (Member # 9834) on :
 
I'm working on doing Songmaster with my own voice. It'll take at least 3 years until I'm good enough. I did Lost Boys 3 years ago as well.
 
Posted by Shnabubula (Member # 9834) on :
 
Newly recorded piano suite to compliment the Orchestral one. The Piano Suite is all the themes with they're proper titles. Also the tags point to one specific usage of each theme.

www.arnoldascher.com/Piano/Ender/
 
Posted by BandoCommando (Member # 7746) on :
 
Shnabubula, you've done some great work! This is very interesting music, and I appreciate your approach to composition. There's nice hint of jazz mixed into your orchestral stylings, and it is a HUGE relief to me that you didn't go down the atonal path. Bravo! I much enjoyed these!

Orincoro, I want to hear yours when you get around to finishing it. ;-)
 
Posted by Hookt_Un_Fonix (Member # 10094) on :
 
Awesome job, you have got some serious talent there.
 
Posted by a stray child (Member # 10125) on :
 
I don't see what the big deal is, I can understand that its your interpretation, but some if it seems too cookie-cutter for me.
 
Posted by Shnabubula (Member # 9834) on :
 
I LOVE COOKIES! COOKIES ARE DELICIOUS.... but yeah, I'm not that talented.. however, this guy this guy... Jacob Kaufman.. he IS a genius

virt.vgmix.com

though HERE'S a man who can cut a cookie!
 
Posted by Steev (Member # 6805) on :
 
Wow you hijacked a two month old thread.
 
Posted by LongeBane (Member # 10127) on :
 
yea, what a loser!
 
Posted by Steev (Member # 6805) on :
 
Doh!
 
Posted by a stray child (Member # 10125) on :
 
I just wanna say that, after listening to these again, wow I was a jerk. These are actually way awesome... I can't believe I was so closed minded about them.

Give them a listen!
 


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