Looks like the new book is coming out on my Birthday. Now I feel Special. Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
What does the bit on the cover mean by "Direct sequel?"
Posted by T:man (Member # 11614) on :
its right after enders game ends theres other thread too =))
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Don't count on it. The dates on amazon seem to be wrong much more than they're right.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
quote:Originally posted by T:man: its right after enders game ends theres other thread too =))
Maybe not right after, but closer than Speaker.
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
Yes! I've been waiting for another book from OSC forever. He seems to be the only author that writes books I get really excited to read lately. Which makes me sad, because I know the man has to retire someday.
Is there any information other than it takes off where Ender's Game ends? Does the this novel conclude at the beginning of Speaker of the Dead?
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
Considering OSC was late on all the other Ender books, I wouldn't count on this one being out before 09'. Nice to see that he put a date on it though. Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I wouldn't even trust that he was the one to make that date.
I recall once once that somebody posted about the release date of one of OSC's books (one of the Women of Genesis books, IIRC), and OSC said something along the lines of "That's amazing! I don't know how they can know that, since I haven't even written the book yet."
Posted by Lyrhawn (Member # 7039) on :
Yeah, I was wondering about that, given that he just posted a question that I imagine goes towards his work in progress on Ender in Exile. Obviously it hasn't been written yet. How long does a book need to have been written before a release date in order to get it printed, bound and shipped?
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nick:
Is there any information other than it takes off where Ender's Game ends? Does the this novel conclude at the beginning of Speaker of the Dead?
As far as we know, it should take place relatively soon after Ender and Val leave the first colony. It's before Ender meets Jane.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nick: Yes! I've been waiting for another book from OSC forever. He seems to be the only author that writes books I get really excited to read lately. Which makes me sad, because I know the man has to retire someday.
Is there any information other than it takes off where Ender's Game ends? Does the this novel conclude at the beginning of Speaker of the Dead?
Why should writers ever retire? They can write even when they are 100 with arthitis. They can type with one finger.
Posted by Orincoro (Member # 8854) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: Yeah, I was wondering about that, given that he just posted a question that I imagine goes towards his work in progress on Ender in Exile. Obviously it hasn't been written yet. How long does a book need to have been written before a release date in order to get it printed, bound and shipped?
In recent years, the answer, I believe, is not long at all.
Also OSC claims to write his novels in a span of about 6-8 weeks. So he could conceivably not start for even a few more months.
Posted by Blayne Bradley (Member # 8565) on :
YAH!
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
Nice! Your birthday must be three days after mine, Catseye. But I agree with others that release dates aren't the most reliable things. But good news--there is a cover already, which means that the "working title" might be the final title now. And "384 pages" seems pretty specific...
quote:Originally posted by neo-dragon:
quote:Originally posted by Nick:
Is there any information other than it takes off where Ender's Game ends? Does the this novel conclude at the beginning of Speaker of the Dead?
As far as we know, it should take place relatively soon after Ender and Val leave the first colony. It's before Ender meets Jane.
I'm thinking it has a little overlap with the end of Ender's Game actually, if the IGMS story Ender's Homecoming is any indicator. Ender's Stocking was a direct excerpt of War of Gifts, after all, so it's possible that this story is part of the upcoming book.
OSC's question on the forum was supposedly about Ender in Exile so that might indeed mean that Ender's Homecoming is included. In that case, this particular fragment happens before Ender and Valentine leave for the colony, thus the reason for the book's claim as a "direct sequel".
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
It's not listed on the Bibliography as a work in progress. There's a mithermages story, Bully and the Beast, and the perennial work in progress, Rasputin.
I do wonder if enough people were to pre-order the book, if he would then feel spurred to write it.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
Since it has a cover and a (supposed) release date, and he recently asked for a little bit of fact checking help via a thread by KACard, I think he's probably already writing it, or at least about to start. I'm even optimistic enough to believe the posted release date.
Posted by Sean Monahan (Member # 9334) on :
quote:Originally posted by mr_porteiro_head: I wouldn't even trust that he was the one to make that date.
This is true. George RR Martin has complained that Amazon has provided dates for his books when neither he nor his publisher provided any. He also said they provided a page count, when he wasn't even done with the book. He has specifically told his fans not to trust a date unless it comes from him.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Too bad. It's the eighth anniversary of the day Bush was elected. And MY eighth anniversary.
Posted by Wendybird (Member # 84) on :
While I am excited about a new Ender book I really wish he would finish Rasputin already! I have been waiting for that one oh just shy of forever Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
Rasputin? what is this?
Posted by Razputin (Member # 9522) on :
That is I, no? Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by DDDaysh: Rasputin? what is this?
Sequel to Pastwatch.
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
Oh, I thought that was called something else.
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
Sequel to Lovelock, I think you mean.
Posted by kacard (Member # 200) on :
Yep -- that release date looks right to me!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Papa Moose: Sequel to Lovelock, I think you mean.
oops. Posted by LargeTuna (Member # 10512) on :
ahhhhg! i cant wait. so happy, until then i'll just re-read homecoming Posted by Xann. (Member # 11482) on :
My party is gonna be that big! Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
oh, ok, that makes more sense. I haven't read the first yet, I should probably do that!
Posted by CRash (Member # 7754) on :
quote:Originally posted by kacard: Yep -- that release date looks right to me!
Good, good. *works enthusiastically on a paper chain to count down the days*
Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
*slobbers in anticipation
*realizes that his new Speaker for the Dead copy is all wet with drool
Posted by la.SOMA (Member # 10608) on :
have any of you read the product description?
- Orson Scott Card returns to his best-selling series with a new Ender novel.
At the close of Ender's Game, Andrew Wiggin – called Ender by everyone – is told that he can no longer live on Earth, and he realizes that this is the truth. He has become far more than just a boy who won a game: he is the Savior of Earth, a hero, a military genius whose allegiance is sought by every nation of the newly shattered Earth Hegemony. He is offered the choice of living in isolation on Eros, at one of the Hegemony’s training facilities, but instead the twelve-year-old chooses to leave his home world and begin the long relativistic journey out to the colonies. With him went his sister Valentine, and the core of the artificial intelligence that would become Jane.
The story of those years has never been told… until now. -
i guess the first thing to figure out is how official this description is. i'm curious how a 'beta-jane' could be tossed into the story.
*spoilers*
this is supposed to be pre-investment counselor but i'd imagine jane was sentient before she presented herself to ender. according to SOTG, the fantasy game was to be programmed to present itself to ender when he came to age. we see that jane does so in IC. is it possible that jane was doing some behind the scenes work while ender was unaware? was jane sentient but following the original programmed command to not introduce herself to once he reaches his legal age? i guess the main question is where and when we can mark jane's sentience.
if this was figured out i think it would be a nice addition to the timeline that's floating around on the net and to also include in the official enderverse companion.
Posted by neo-dragon (Member # 7168) on :
I don't think that dust-jacket descriptions are usually written by the author, and in my experience they are often inaccurate or misleading in some respects
Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
Yeah, I mean, look at the back of Xenocide. They try to make it all intense, but it's really a philosophy book. And the cover keeps calling Qing Jao "Gloriously Bright" as if English speakers can't handle her name. It's not like the translation means so much in the story.
And Ender's Game for that matter. The back cover sounds more like it describes the original novella than the actual book.
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