The author a number of recent best-selling teen romance vampire novels cites OSC as her favorite (living) author in a recent Entertainment Weekly interview with the author.
I also noticed that the Entertainment Weekly website has a brief (yet positive) review of A War of Gifts.
Just thought I'd share these discoveries.
Posted by LargeTuna (Member # 10512) on :
Ha cool this is your 5000'th post cheers!(i thought OSC was everone's favourite author)
Posted by C3PO the Dragon Slayer (Member # 10416) on :
Mormons tend to stick together
In the Time 100 Most Influential People issue this year, it is also revealed that Orson Scott Card is a Stephanie Meyer fan.
*Looks at post count* Wow, this is my 500th post!
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
She adores OSC. Which is cool. I think I am leaning a bit more towards her these days though because the Host was just so solidly enjoyable and entertaining. I loved that book. Especially the healing product names because they made me giggle.
Posted by Sachiko (Member # 6139) on :
OSC is a Stephanie Meyer fan? Really?
I wouldn't have thought it. I know he likes really readable books and decries people looking down on page-turners, but.....but......
I suppose, for one, I thought his lack of review for the Twilight series was telling.
After all, he made a point of reviewing David Farland, (I think that's how is name is spelled; it's the other name Dave WOlverton writes under?), Brandon Sanderson and Shannon Hale. He DIDN'T say anything about Stephanie Meyer's stuff, and having read all of the above I thought is was because her books were not like the other books.
Because her books were a little....*said very quietly* silly. *ducks tomatoes*
I have The Host sitting in my living room right now, and I'm honestly trying to get into it, but....it just isn't happening. The dialogue sounds like BYU drama coeds improv-ing a medidrama scene.
And it's not like I dislike Twilight because of the vampite thing--I've read Laurell K Hamilton and Charlaine Harris, and my oldest daughter is named Buffy, for pity's sake. I just can't seem to stop laughing at Bella.
Posted by Rodger Brown (Member # 11476) on :
I find it interesting that Stephanie Meyer is going to rewrite her twilight series from another characters point of view. Where have I heard that idea before......
Posted by Kelley Merritt (Member # 9671) on :
Every time I see a topic about Stephanie Meyer I have to giggle. My mom's name is Stephane Meyer (different spelling). Her boss even bought her one of Stephanie' Meyer's books because of the name, but she's not into vampires.
Posted by LargeTuna (Member # 10512) on :
About every girl im friends with is obsesed with that series. what is this world becoming. Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
Wow, every time I get to thinking that I'm marginally "well read" (at least by Jay Walking standards) people pop up with some author who is apparently really popular and I've never even HEARD of!!!! Ack - I'll have to check her out.
Though, in all honesty, Vampire's are the one thing that really REALLY scare me to contemplate.... or at least did as a kid. I never minded the monsters, or Zombie's or anything like that. I always figured the worst they could do was kill you, and even as a child I was never really afraid of death. A Vampire though... well, those were true evil! It may take a bit to pluck up my courage in order to dive into a whole series about them.
Posted by Rodger Brown (Member # 11476) on :
DDDaysh the books though involve Vampires and Werewolves its more about the characters and how being a Vampire or Werewolf affects relationships with each other and Human counterpart. I don't think there is much to fear in these books.
I do however think that you should avoid I am Legend which is a little darker and scarier
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sachiko: OSC is a Stephanie Meyer fan? Really?
I wouldn't have thought it. I know he likes really readable books and decries people looking down on page-turners, but.....but......
I suppose, for one, I thought his lack of review for the Twilight series was telling.
After all, he made a point of reviewing David Farland, (I think that's how is name is spelled; it's the other name Dave WOlverton writes under?), Brandon Sanderson and Shannon Hale. He DIDN'T say anything about Stephanie Meyer's stuff, and having read all of the above I thought is was because her books were not like the other books.
Because her books were a little....*said very quietly* silly. *ducks tomatoes*
I have The Host sitting in my living room right now, and I'm honestly trying to get into it, but....it just isn't happening. The dialogue sounds like BYU drama coeds improv-ing a medidrama scene.
And it's not like I dislike Twilight because of the vampite thing--I've read Laurell K Hamilton and Charlaine Harris, and my oldest daughter is named Buffy, for pity's sake. I just can't seem to stop laughing at Bella.
*tomato* The Host is very enjoyabe. I can't read JKH's Anita series anymore. The books just drips with sweat from all of the sex. Not that sex is a bad thing, but the books have become about 97% smex. That's too much! You've got to have some plot.
But I like the Merry Series where they stop every five pages to get it on. It makes no sense.
Bella reminds me of me. She hates proms. I've been forced to go every single prom and dance against my will.
Posted by Sachiko (Member # 6139) on :
Yeah, I've given up on the Anita Blake series too.
I can't decide which is worse-the sex scenes, or the talking-about-sex scenes.
Not to mention the books are pornographic and therefore no-nos for me anyway.
They were a lot more interesting back when they had actual plots. I miss those plots. RIP.
The Merry series lost me too, same reasons. I starting wanting to shake the Sidhe. "Hey, guys, if what you want is to have BABIES, here's a crazy idea, maybe you should cut down on the kinky sex!"
After awhile of reading Merry Gentry I just stopped feeling bad at the thought of the Sidhe dying off...I thought, "'Bout time."
I was like that too, in high school, Syn. Which is why I like the Sookie Stackhouse and Mercy Thompson series. (by Charlaine Harris and Patricia Briggs, respectively.)
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sachiko: The Merry series lost me too, same reasons. I starting wanting to shake the Sidhe. "Hey, guys, if what you want is to have BABIES, here's a crazy idea, maybe you should cut down on the kinky sex!"
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Posted by TheOneWithAnswersToStupidQuestions (Member # 11648) on :
...And now I am a bit glad I have never heard of those authors before. I've read the Twilight series, although I was a bit reluctant to at first. It seemed INCREDIBLY overhyped at my school. It's a pretty good series, however. I really didn't expect Stephanie Meyer to even KNOW of Orson Scott Card! That was a pleasant surprise!
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
Joining in on the conversation a little late. When I saw C3P0's comment above, I went and googled the Time piece on Stephenie Meyer, which was written by OSC. Here's the link in case anyone else wants to read it.
He both raises troubling questions and praises her writing. So, is he a fan? Still not sure.
Posted by Puffy Treat (Member # 7210) on :
Uprooted, you can be a fan of someone's work yet still have mixed feelings about elements of it.
I'm not saying OSC -is- a fan, just that such a thing is possible and common.
Posted by Uprooted (Member # 8353) on :
That's why I said I'm not sure.
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
I'm about halfway through Meyer's new book "Breaking Dawn" and she just began a major section with a quote from OSC:
quote: Personal affection is a luxury you can have only after all your enemies are eliminated. Until then, everyone you love is a hostage, sapping your courage and corrupting your judgment. Orson Scott Card "Empire"
Its a bizarre quote made all the weirder by what is happening plot-wise right now. Meyer has some twisted views on love and romance. Or maybe I'm just being icky from all the blood and gore.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Interesting line, but kind of warped. Who are your enemies anyway? It's never that simple. But, dang. Do I love this book and this woman's writing. I think she's taken over as my favourite Mormon author. Not that I split them up by Mormon, English, Heathen, Militant Atheist.
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
I split them up by height.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
quote:Do I love this book and this woman's writing.
Why?
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
quote:Originally posted by TomDavidson:
quote:Do I love this book and this woman's writing.
Why?
I just enjoy her stuff. There's a lot of humour there. The Host was an awesome read too. It was entertaining, had good characters, and interesting setting. I just LIKED it. I just think it's rather good. Yes, you have the gooey sort of mushy vamp love, but I don't mind that at all.
Posted by Elmer's Glue (Member # 9313) on :
I'll read The Host if someone who hated the Twilight series recommends it.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
It's not the gooeyness that squicks me out. It's the codependence.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
Meyer wrote Twilight in three months.
She got a 750k, three book deal from Little Brown.
Yeah-- my dislike for her doesn't have anything to do with her writing prowess. It's professional jealousy.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Clearly, Scott, you need to be writing sex-free vampire porn.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
No, that's been done before.
Maybe werewolf...I've always been partial to werewolves...
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
quote:Originally posted by Scott R: No, that's been done before.
Maybe werewolf...I've always been partial to werewolves...
Naw, I'm working on a werewolf story. At first I thought it was something to play around with, but I don't think it's so bad.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Scott, are you unfamiliar with the conventions of vampire porn? There ARE werewolves in vampire porn. In fact, sometimes it's werewolf porn with vampires in it. You can never have one without the other, because they're apparently natural enemies. But the heroine is always willing to sleep with either kind, and is often some weird hybrid of the two.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
quote:are you unfamiliar with the conventions of vampire porn?
Yes. Shocking in this day and age, I know.
quote:I'm working on a werewolf story.
Well...I've finished my werewolf story. So, neener, neener, neener.
I think we've probably got very different approaches to it. Mine's about a divorcee in the middle of the desert trying to keep the wolf-spirit locked up in a vintage motorcycle. Along the way, he realizes that the wolf's not so much interested in him as it is in other people.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
quote:Originally posted by Elmer's Glue: I'll read The Host if someone who hated the Twilight series recommends it.
I haven't read Twilight, but from what I have read and heard about it, I don't think I'd like it any more than you apparently did.
I have read The Host, and I do not recommend it.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I recommend it. I think there are several Twilight haters that like it.
Posted by Steve_G (Member # 10101) on :
I liked the Host immensely. It was far better than the Twilight books, and I liked them as well. My wife disagrees that The Host was better than Twilight though.
Posted by Sachiko (Member # 6139) on :
I tried to read The Host.
I couldn't hack it.
The way the characters talked to each other...it sounded like some drama-major BYU coeds improving after being instructed to make a dramatic scene.
Apologies to BYU drama-major coeds.
I wish Shannon Hale were getting the big $$ contracts. Now she's the real thing.
Posted by Lanfear (Member # 7776) on :
I can't comprehend how anyone you enjoys the original Ender quartet enjoys Twilight at all.
It's handling of relationships is exceptionally shallow when compared to the complexity of the characters on Lusitania.
Twilight was written for middle school girls, and has enslaved them to false notions about what love is, and given them way unrealistic expectations.
Even the college girls who admit the book is not a literary classic say "well I just love Edward", always as if he was a character. These are the girls not going on dates.
Harsh but true.
My 12 year old sister went and read Twilight without permission (My parents told her she couldnt read it it)
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Unrealistic? I don't know. It would be nice to have a guy who at least respects you. I find the series to be entertianing, funny in bits and Edward to be rather spiffy, but Ian in the Host is cooler.
I love the scene where the are all snuzzling together. so sweet.
Posted by LAParent (Member # 11810) on :
I thought I would revive this thread because I just saw the Twilight movie, and just started the last Twilight series book "Breaking Dawn".
Coincidentally, I am in the middle of an Ender's Quartet re-read.
Stephanie Meyer's favorite authors are Jane Austen and OSC, so the woman has good taste! I liked the Twilight series and am looking forward to reading "The Host". I am not saying her books are as good as the Ender series, but how many other books are?
The Twilight books are books for teenage girls and women who remember what it was like to be a teenage girl. I think they are such page turners because they are dream-like. Emotions are heightened, the setting is evocative without being overly descriptive, vampires and werewolves are alternatively frightening and lovable. None of it pretends to be real, except maybe the doubts and fears of the teenagers in the books.
Mr. Darcy as a vampire? Works for me!
Posted by Traceria (Member # 11820) on :
quote:Originally posted by LAParent: The Twilight books are books for teenage girls and women who remember what it was like to be a teenage girl. I think they are such page turners because they are dream-like. Emotions are heightened, the setting is evocative without being overly descriptive, vampires and werewolves are alternatively frightening and lovable. None of it pretends to be real, except maybe the doubts and fears of the teenagers in the books.
I'm in the middle of Eclipse (audiobook) at the moment, first time through. While I'm not going to say the books are horrible, I'm not going to pretent they're the best thing since sliced bread either. I think you've hit on an important point - the audience. And since I was one of those rare teenage girls that wasn't completely boy crazy and actually acted with common sense (more than my female peers, anyhow), it's glaringly obvious that this series is so incredibly girlish. I still cringe at the few memories of my teenage years in which I wasn't level headed, and so I cringe for Bella every time she goes and makes a stupid, hormone driven and not thought out decision. But as you said, because that's what they are - books for teenage girls and women who remember - I can relate. And being able to relate even remotely is what finds me in the middle of book three.
Will I ever buy these books? No. But I'll likely continue to make my way through the series.
Posted by Tara (Member # 10030) on :
It's not surprising to me that anyone would be an OSC fan...
Anyway, I thought Twilight was good, but not great, and I'm not really interested in reading the other books.
Posted by Tara (Member # 10030) on :
quote:And since I was one of those rare teenage girls that wasn't completely boy crazy and actually acted with common sense (more than my female peers, anyhow),
Those two things shouldn't be mutually exclusive! Posted by LAParent (Member # 11810) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tara: It's not surprising to me that anyone would be an OSC fan...
Anyway, I thought Twilight was good, but not great, and I'm not really interested in reading the other books.
I am going to read her new novel "The Host", which is not a YA book, and is supposed to appeal to a wider audience. Since Stephanie Meyer's favorite book is "Speaker for the Dead", we'll see what she does with the sci fi format.
Posted by blindsay (Member # 11787) on :
I have no desire to read the Twilight series, but then again I am a 27 year old married man who likes smart comedies and mindless action flicks.
Now if I were 18 years old, I would have already read the books. I wouldn't read it for the story. I would read it because of the dates I could get out of it.
"Hey did you read Breaking Dawn? I liked when Edward blah blah blah..."
"Like OMG you read the Twilight series? Lets go re-create the kissing scenes in the book!"
"Ok if you say so! Just don't expect me to call you again."
Posted by Camber (Member # 6154) on :
Hmm. I doubt it is going to work that way. But yes, you can get a good conversation started with women through the books. I just went to the grocery store. The checker asked if I had fun last night (New Years), and I told her I stayed home and watched Harry Potter. She wanted to tell me that she watched Brothers Grimm with her boyfriend, and how her boyfriend didn't like it. Yeah, I said, that tends to happen when you're watching a gorgeous guy (Heath Ledger) with your girlfriend and she's drooling--you have a knee-jerk reaction to hate the movie. We started talking about whether Heath Ledger looked like himself in the film, and I asked her if she had seen Twilight. Yes, only 6 times! Read the books? Absolutely loved them. She started telling me how she put "Geeky Twilight Fan" on her cellphone, latest casting news, etc. And I had an instant friend, just because I had read the books and loved the movie.
So yes, it does help you pick up chicks, but you probably won't jump to recreating kissing scenes.
Posted by Tara (Member # 10030) on :
So apparently, 1) Stephanie Meyer is a Mormon and 2) Twilight is supposed to promote abstinence.
I had no idea. I feel the same way I felt when I found out Narnia was an allegory for Christianity.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tara: I had no idea. I feel the same way I felt when I found out Narnia was an allegory for Christianity.
Really? Even after reading The Last Battle?
Posted by Tara (Member # 10030) on :
quote:Originally posted by rivka:
quote:Originally posted by Tara: I had no idea. I feel the same way I felt when I found out Narnia was an allegory for Christianity.
Really? Even after reading The Last Battle?
I mean, I was 8.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Ah. Gotcha.
I was completely oblivious through books 1-6 (what did I know about Christ mythologies?), but I was aware of the concepts echoed in The Last Battle. I was a bit older though. 10? 12?
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
quote:Originally posted by Elmer's Glue: I'll read The Host if someone who hated the Twilight series recommends it.
I liked The Host, and thought it was a good read. I tried reading a few chapters from Twilight, and I AM into that type of book....but it just didn't interest me at all.
BTW, I feel the same way about the Anita Blake books, but the last one had a plot. I was almost surprised to see it. Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
So - less than a year after I asked the stupid question about who Stephanie Meyer even was, I've finished all 4 books.
And... wow...
They are quite amazing, but I'm not really sure what to think about them. I mean, I was quite addicted to them (all except the second, which I found really boring), but.... well.. the main emotion I associate with them is pain. Now, it's exquisite pain, the kind that borders on pleasure, but it's STILL pain.
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
I heard a very large, adult African-American man walking through our bookstore today absolutely GUSHING about the Twilight books.
I still can't get over how many boys buy these books. And its not even like they're buying it to impress girls. They will try to have conversations with me about the books while I'm checking them out.
On a sad note, our new display for Cassandra Clare's "City of Glass" features a quote from Stephanie Meyers promoting the series. Clare is certainly one of the last teen authors I want Meyers throwing her weight behind. Especially since we have like three displays titled "If you like Twilight..." and they all sell-out like crazy.
Posted by Mockingbird (Member # 5640) on :
Shanna - I haven't heard of the City of Glass series before, but have a pre-teen who reads almost everything she gets her hands on. What do you see as offensive in that series?
Posted by Shanna (Member # 7900) on :
The same thing I find offensive about Meyers...that extremely poor writers are being rewarded with financial success and notoriety. Clare also built a name for herself in the fanfiction community before being busted for plagiarism, which to my knowledge she has never apologized for. (Besides, when the author's last name, real or not, is ClarE why would they name their protagonist ClarY??)
Clare's stuff reads like someone who desperately wants to be as witty as Joss Whedon. Most reviews make light of how heavily she draws from Buffy, Star Wars, and Harry Potter. I'm glad she's not directly copying from published material anymore, but this is only a slight improvement.
I couldn't get very far into it before I gave up but I have heard comments about some confusing chemistry between a brother and sister.
And employee who works at a small bookstore or in the children's department of a larger chain will happily recommend much better titles.
Titles in our store which are getting high praises for younger readers (juvenile and teen):
"Dairy Queen" by Catherine Murdock - Our kid's lead who HATES Twilight has been pushing this into the hands of every teen girl she can find.
"The Alchemyst: The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel" by Michael Scott
"The Hunger Games" by Suzanne Collins
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shanna: Clare also built a name for herself in the fanfiction community before being busted for plagiarism, which to my knowledge she has never apologized for.
I knew I recognized that name!
IIRC, she was busted for plagiarism in at least two (three?) separate fanfic communities.
Posted by NickVicious (Member # 12010) on :
I couldn't see myself getting into the twilight stuff. i try to seperate myself of the trends of the time. they could be great for all i know, but they seem kind of chicky. plus my boss saw the movie and told me "sparkle" in the sunlight...it seems like they butchered the vampire image.
Posted by mobester (Member # 12039) on :
Has anyone else noticed the similarities between Meyer's vampires all having special gifts, and the Alvin Maker series? It seems to me like she stole Alice's ability directly from little Peggy. The only difference is that the chartacter of little Peggy is so much deeper. Card has an amazing way of showing us deep into the thoughts and emotions of his characters.
Posted by adenam (Member # 11902) on :
I don't think Meyer "stole" anything from Alvin Maker. Lots of books have a group of charachters with special powers and one of them is usually the ability to forsee the future, except it is never perfect because the future is always changing.
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
I think Alice and Peggy really do quite different things. Honestly, if you want to treat prescience in all forms as a single idea then they've all stolen the idea from somebody so long dead that no one really knows who anymore.
Posted by FoolishTook (Member # 5358) on :
Stephanie Meyer being an OSC fan as well as a Jane Austen fan makes me feel dirty. I have so much in common with this woman it's scary.
I read a couple pages of Twilight, even watched the movie. (Warning: Don't get into close physical proximity with a Twilight fan if you have negative opinions about the book.)
The movie was fun, I'll admit. Those few pages of reading, however, made me ill. I think what Stephanie Meyer has is a good story. What she lacks is the ability to write well, discipline her craft, and edit out page after page of tripe.
Posted by lolcats (Member # 12060) on :
Twilight is escapist romantic fiction. VERY GOOD escapist romantic fiction. I haven't found better books in the genre; can you?
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
Considering she wrote the book in only a few months, and it was the first thing she really attempted to publish, I think the "pages and pages of tripe" are really more the fault of the editor/publisher than the author. Obviously someone felt they added to the story, or they should have been nixed at that stage.
I didn't actually READ the book, so I can't comment on how long any particular description was. On the whole I thought the first one was quite a good book. The whole series is pretty decent, but disturbing enough for me to have a hard time deciding to read it again.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote:Originally posted by lolcats: I haven't found better books in the genre; can you?
Heck, yeah.
Posted by lolcats (Member # 12060) on :
Cool. Suggestions please?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Are you on Goodreads?
Posted by lolcats (Member # 12060) on :
No. What is Goodreads?
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Goodreads is the largest social network for readers in the world. We have over 2,100,000 members who have added over 49,000,000 books to their shelves. A place for casual readers and bona-fide bookworms alike, Goodreads members recommend books, compare what they are reading, keep track of what they've read and would like to read, form book clubs and much more.
Posted by lolcats (Member # 12060) on :
that's so awesome. thank you!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
It's one of my favorite sites. Actually, I recently went from very active volunteer to working for the site part-time.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I discovered that site yesterday.
I'm having fun on it. I need to keep track of all of my books.
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
I waste WAY too much time on goodreads!
The second problem is I went from having a semi-manageable number of books that I want to read to an insanely long "to read" list that just keeps growing.
It's a great way of keeping track of what you've read - and what you thought about it.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
I spent hours on that site... hypnotized by it... Totally engrossed.
Posted by LAParent (Member # 11810) on :
Stephanie Meyer's adult book, "The Host" is a better book than Twilight, IMHO. The writing is much better, although it is still a bit too long. The characters are far more mature and interesting.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
quote:Originally posted by LAParent: Stephanie Meyer's adult book, "The Host" is a better book than Twilight, IMHO. The writing is much better, although it is still a bit too long. The characters are far more mature and interesting.
I love that book.Especially Ian
Posted by Emreecheek (Member # 12082) on :
I've only read the first Twilight book, and I don't know why OSC liked it, honestly.
I mean, the characters existed, and they had clearly defined relationships with Bella, and sometimes with Edward. But, there didn't seem to be any interactions with each other. There was no character web. Just a line tracing each character to Bella.
And all the school kids with forgetable names - Meh.
I'm sure I could have fallen for Edward, and that love could have carried me eagerly through the series, except my heart already belongs to Severus Snape.
After him, who needs Edward?
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
quote:my heart already belongs to Severus Snape.
Aside from being very brave, what attracts you to Snape?
Posted by Emreecheek (Member # 12082) on :
Um, he's emotionally damaged. For some reason, I've always found that attractive... That, and the idea of helping somebody overcome their hurt so that they can better interact with the world (After I rescued him from Nagini, of course. His being dead really kind of sucked)
It's the whole idea of a man who has a conscience, but is damaged and doesn't act on it. None of his behavior can be excused because he had a sucky childhood, but it bears consideration. Couple that with how drastically misunderstood he was during school, and how very alone he was by the time Harry came along, and you have a lovely emo romance just wating to happen.
I'm weird, I'll admit. But if a normal person can't be a bridge for the relationship between Harry and Snape, and win Snape's love in a delightfully unrealistic and cheesy scene where he finally accepts and loves me for the muggle I am, then I don't want to be normal.
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Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
Snape? He's interesting, he'd loan people leather books and leer at them until they gave them back, but for me, it's all about Lupin. Lupin is such a nice guy. Sure he was a bit scared in terms of having a baby, but still, he did the right thing and he was brave and cool.
Snape was too, but I can't get over his attitude. URG ><
Posted by dictatorlv44 (Member # 11845) on :
So, I tried to read the Twilight series, and I got up to New Moon, and realized how uninterested I was.
I think what bothered me about the series was the lack of depth to the characters. After reading the books, the thing I remember most is how Bella always ate breakfast, or something like that. The worst is Edward Cullen, though. Meyers tells us nothing about him, except for his past and his love of Bella. It seems like his motivation for everything in the books is Bella. Meyers might be writing a book in his point of view, but I feel that without a book in Edward's point of view, Twilight is quite empty.
It's a similar concept to what Card did with Bean, but the difference is that Edward was one of the main characters in the entire book, and Card didn't write a book in the point of view of Graff, or Valentine, but Bean, a fairly minor character with an important role.
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
quote:Um, he's emotionally damaged. For some reason, I've always found that attractive...
He was also verbally abusive, unsympathetic, cold, and vain. Snape was emotionally damaged, yes-- and he was also a bully.
The idea of Harry naming one of his sons after him is very romantic, but strikes me as particularly untrue to Snape and Harry's relationship-- even after Harry found out why Snape did all that he did.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
It kind of sucked the way Snape kept thinking harry was arrogant and bad, when he liked MOLFOY who really was the arrogant one. He was rather unforgiving too. Not a very nice guy at all. I'd hate to be with a man who bullies children. Even if he had a good book collection.
But it was rather sweet that Harry forgave him enough to name a kid after him, but still, Albus Severus Potter? His name equals=ASP. Which is kind of cute. Plus Snape, even though he was a jerk could love and loved Harry's mother.
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