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Posted by Rodger Brown (Member # 11476) on :
 
So I have purchased all of the Homecoming series new audiobook recordings but can't find anything on Earthborn.

Anybody heard anything about it's release?
 
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
 
They seem to be coming out slowly - I suspect it's still in production.
 
Posted by Rodger Brown (Member # 11476) on :
 
Yeah its out
 
Posted by Terry O'Brien (Member # 12014) on :
 
Read the first 4. Avoid Earthborn at all costs.
 
Posted by K_heron (Member # 8893) on :
 
What did you dislike so much about Earthborn that you didn't mind in the first four?
 
Posted by Seatarsprayan (Member # 7634) on :
 
Actually Earthborn isn't too bad a read if you read all the Shedemei/Oversoul parts and skip everything else.
 
Posted by Terry O'Brien (Member # 12014) on :
 
Earthborn takes place some thousand yeara after the first 4, discarding characters I had grown to love. It's the first Card book I have actively hated.
 
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
 
Well, he was just trying to be faithful to the source material. [Big Grin]

I'm not sure what you'd call it if a Mormon wrote a science fiction retelling of the Book of Mormon that remained closely parallel until the very last book, and then went off in a completely unexpected direction, but I'd call it audacious at the very least. [Smile]
 
Posted by vonk (Member # 9027) on :
 
When I read Earthborn the first time I was so startled and perturbed by the change that it colored that reading. The next time I enjoyed it much more; the new characters, seeing how the plans of Nafai and Elemak came to fruit in the long run, and the resolution of the overall story arch. In fact, I think I'll read it again today. Another good thing about [i]Earthborn{/i] is that you can read it as a standalone. If I pick up CoE I'm practically dedicated to reading all the rest.
 
Posted by umberhulk (Member # 11788) on :
 
I loved Earthborn. It's one of my favorite closers. I loved the characters in the first four too, but the new ones live up. And there's more of them.

The one things I wished was explored more in the series was Protchnu's life. He was a great character.
 
Posted by Rodger Brown (Member # 11476) on :
 
....and then went off in a completely unexpected direction.

Earthborn follows the source material as close as the first four. The first four books follow 1st Nephi in the Book of Mormon sort of and Earthborn follows Mosiah and Alma sort of.
 
Posted by Terry O'Brien (Member # 12014) on :
 
Sorry, but I hated it. I still loves me some OSC, but Earthborn didn't do it for me. And nothing any of you say can change my mind.

[Razz]
 
Posted by umberhulk (Member # 11788) on :
 
Likewise I guess, but I'm not posting a smiley.
 
Posted by scifibum (Member # 7625) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rodger Brown:
....and then went off in a completely unexpected direction.

Earthborn follows the source material as close as the first four. The first four books follow 1st Nephi in the Book of Mormon sort of and Earthborn follows Mosiah and Alma sort of.

Right. I was saying it'd have weird if this wasn't the case.
 
Posted by Rodger Brown (Member # 11476) on :
 
Sorry I misread your post. I hide in shame.
 
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
 
I have to join the "I Love Earthborn" side. The first time I read it - not so much. It was "ok" but giving up on my favorite characters was hard on me.

In subsequent readings, it has become more and more my favorites. That is really saying something considering that Ships of Earth & Earthfall are also some of my favorite reads. There is something so sweet about almost all the characters. It is one of the few books I've ever read that portrays so clearly how a human being can be both perfect and flawed at the same time. There is alot of talk in the series (and also in the Alvin series) about this "perfect fruit". I actually find the idea of the fruit somewhat silly - but the intensity and goodness of the idea behind it is powerful. The way the characters have their strengths and weaknesses, the WAY those things come together to form the person as a whole, even the way that Akma manages to twist an almost Arthurian character to do such despicable things... it... it's just SO nice to read.
 
Posted by umberhulk (Member # 11788) on :
 
One of the reasons I love Earthborn is that it's the only ensemble story I've read from Card. Most of his stories have a lead.
 
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
 
I kept tripping over the titles, compounded names, honorifics, etc.

I think I probably missed something, not going back and checking to see who was what and what was who.

It was exhausting.

I still enjoyed the story, as confusing as the characters names were at times.
 
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
 
I didn't think they were all that confusing....
 
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DDDaysh:
I didn't think they were all that confusing....

I speed read my novels. If I slowed down and savored the story a bit more, I'm sure they would have been easier for me to grasp. Or maybe not.

I know I miss a lot reading that way.
 
Posted by Rodger Brown (Member # 11476) on :
 
I think one of the reasons I followed the characters as well as I did was because I'm very familiar with the source material otherwise I would have gotten lost in all of the brothers the sons the kings the judges all of it.
 
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
 
Just out of curiosity, why do you speed read things you're reading for fun?
 
Posted by Tammy (Member # 4119) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DDDaysh:
Just out of curiosity, why do you speed read things you're reading for fun?

I believe it's a combination of greed and guilt.

Reading “fun stuff” is my great escape, one that I feel guilty about partaking in sometimes. I'm greedy about wanting to read so many books. So many books, so little time.

[Dont Know]

I'm female and a mother. Some of us are guilt mongers. I need to learn how to treat myself to a slow, luxurious novel read.
 
Posted by DDDaysh (Member # 9499) on :
 
Ah - I do audio books primarily now. I used to scoff at them, thinking they weren't as good a "really reading" the book, but I started using them as a way to make my commutes (an hour each way to work every day) a little more bearable. Now I actually find them BETTER than reading the books in many cases. Eventually I got an ipod and an audible account, so now I can "read" when I'm folding laundry, doing data entry at work, washing dishes, or mowing the lawn. It means I can enjoy my books without any guilt.
 
Posted by Rodger Brown (Member # 11476) on :
 
DDDaysh Welcome to my world thats exactly what I did and why I look forward to new audible releases
 


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