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Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Whoa.

So yesterday was a trip in of itself. My director called in sick and I was the only one at the group home most of the day. I was also in charge when other folks showed up to work. Had to discharge a kid that'd been there for 3 months (normal stay is half that). All week, I've been in an argument with that freaking area director over this other kid who has been acting fairly...psychotic lately. Assaultive of us and self, hearing voices, suicidal, homicidal, etc. Area director insists that he's okay. Area director is not a clinician. Whatever. She insists that if the kid is taken to BE screened (psychiatrically) that I am NOT TO TAKE HIM (that was shouted over the phone at my director after the area director had been removed from the program due to her verbal abuse of me on monday). Anyway.

Kid's after school program calls the house and says that he tweaked at the program and they called the ambulance. Woo. I had to meet them at the hospital a few towns over. (The house is a catchment for an area of towns for the dept of social services in massachusetts). My director tells me just to go because no one else can handle it. I go.

I bring a load of paperwork with my (incident reports and such) to support any claims I make about the kid so that the area director can't claim that I have exaggerated to get the kid screened in and prove a point (like I'd DO that to anyone, having been in a psychiatric hospital myself). Between that, me talking with the clinician, and the kid actually acting out in the ER (trying to hit, kick, bite and punch himself and the nurses and me), he's screened into a hospital. The catch--the hospital with a free pediatric bed is 35 minutes southwest of Boston. We're in a town 30 min northest of Boston. It's just past 11 at night. Mind you, March is a sucky month for me, I'm cycling and didn't sleep at ALL the night before and started working at 9 a.m. that morning. Whee.

I drive down. Sign kid in. Say goodbye to kid. Start the two hour drive back home, it's nearly one a.m. I see headlights behind me, think "Effing tailgater, I'm NOT going to speed up anymore."

Said tailgater turns on the Lights.

<IMG SRC="http://www.hatrack.com/ubb/forum/eek.gif"> POLICE! I have never been stopped before. Never pulled over.

I put my hands on the steering wheel (so he could see 'em) and wait. He peeks in with his flashlight. We go through the license and registration stuff. He explains why he stopped me (speed limit was 30, I hit 45 for a couple minutes, was driving through the hospital's town to get back to Rt 95/128). Asks why I went so fast.

Apparently overtiredness is a truth serum. I didn't ponder over my answers, they just blurted right out, quietly and calmly. "Officer, I didn't realize it. I just signed a kid into a psych hospital and am trying to get home to go to bed. I haven't slept for twenty four hours."

"Westwood Lodge?"

"Yes sir."

"You friend? Family?"

"Case manager. I work at a group home in Lawrence."

"You ever been pulled over in the state of Massachusetts?"

"Never been pulled over anywhere, actually."

"Do you think you're safe to drive without any sleep?"

"Yes sir. I've been more tired and driven safely."

"Okay. Didn't you see me behind you?"

"Well, I did and didn't. I thought you were a tailgater."

At that point he laughed and smiled and apologized, saying that sometimes they do that. Told me to slow it down, keep to only 5 miles above the speed limit, and get a cup of coffee on the way home.

Nice guy. No idea why he let me off. Glad he did, though. He had every right to give me a ticket.

*pat pats police* I really DO like cops. Dunno why. <IMG SRC="http://www.hatrack.com/ubb/forum/smile.gif">

Anyone have any good pulled-over stories?

[ December 05, 2003, 10:09 PM: Message edited by: mackillian ]
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
I've almost always gotten out of being given a ticket when I've been pulled over. I must have the right kind of face or something.

One time I was upset about something, and really wasn't paying attention to how fast I was going. Cop asks me, "Do you realize how fast you were going?" I said, "No, to tell you the truth I wasn't paying attention, I was just following the car in front of me." Cop: "He was going even faster than you." Pause. "Well, I appreciate your honesty, and I'm not going to give you a ticket."

My best story:

I was driving my friend home from folkdancing, and I notice a cop following me down the block. As I turn the corner, he turned also, and turned on his flashers. At first, I thought he wanted to go past me, but then I realized he was pulling me over. I pulled over and stopped, and he calls out over his loudspeaker, "Get out of the car and walk toward me." My friend starts to get out of the car, too, and he tells her, "You stay in the car."
As I am walking toward his car, I realized, "My G-d, he's pulling me over for DUI!" Sure enough, when I got over to his driver side window, he said to me, "Well, I can see you're not drunk." I said, "I haven't even been drinking. I've been folkdancing." The folkdancing instructor thought this story was hilarious - drunk on folkdancing.

**Ela**

[This message has been edited by Ela (edited March 08, 2003).]
 


Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
While I have essentially no experience with it myself, I have known several cops and people pulled over by cops, and the gist I get is that cops are more than willing to let cooperative people who don't seem to be regular offenders go. For instance, my mom and dad have each been pulled over a (very) few times, but have never received tickets, since they are polite, and the cops check the database and find no previous tickets.

The cops I have known have also assured me that this is the case, usually reasoning that for a conscientious person a warning is as much of a deterrent as a ticket, and considerably less of a hassle for both parties involved.
 


Posted by Dead_Horse (Member # 3027) on :
 
Picture summer in Utah, an old pickup with camper shell, full of 2 dogs, 2 cats, a bird (in a big cage) and half the worldy belongings of a family of 3. Following behind, a tiny car stuffed to the brim with the other half (both belongings and family, including husband and son). This family is moving from Nevada to a more eastern state, going north on I-15, intending to head east at I-70. They happen upon some kind of a routine check by the state police.

The officer wants to see liscence and registration. Lady in the truck has hers. He asks where they are headed and she tells him they are moving. She also knows that husband hasn't had a liscence in years, having not bothered to get it back after a DUI, and wonders what they will do when they haul him off to jail. Officer comes back. "He says you have it." She paws through her purse, dumps it, starts unloading the glove box. It's hot. The animals are all panting. (Do birds pant?) "I'm sorry, officer, I can't seem to find it. Could you ask him where he thinks it might be?" He stands there for a moment. "Uh, I think it would be best if you guys just got on the road again. Just drive safely."
 


Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
It worked on me. I drove exactly 5 miles over the speed limit and got me a cup of coffee.
 
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
 
I got a good one:

I was pulled over MY FIRST TIME DRIVING EVER.

EVER.

I reiterate: EVER.

Now, I had practiced a little in my driveway and the surrounding development...but that's not real practice.

My mom, sister, and friend all piled in the car with me to drive to my place of employment at the time (a local ice cream parlor) and i was going to drive there (4 miles, tops) and my mother was going to take the car back.

Things were not as cut-and-dry as i had hoped. I had to drive on an actual highway, which wasn't horrible, since it was a highway leading out of a really small town -- but still, pretty nerve-wracking.

It was a doomed car-ride from the beginning, because as I pulled onto the highway, I started to go for the farthest lane from me, the left lane, insanely thinking that that was the correct lane. IT WASN'T. I see a car come careening towards me -- my mother, sister and friend were all screaming hysterically. I immediately realized what i was doing and swerved into the right lane. I'm so stupid sometimes.

So I kind of got the feel for the road, and adjusted to the cars around me, and we get out of the small town and it's fields on either side, a church, some cows -- pretty unintimidating. And not really many cars. I'm not used to feeling my way around curves yet, though, so I swerve a little every now and then trying to stay in the lane. But i'm doing pretty well, and I'm feelin' pretty calm and collected.

That is, until I realize that I'm being followed by a police car. No lights, and he's a good distance behind, but still -- MY FIRST TIME OUT AND I'M BEING FOLLOWED BY A COP! So i get nervous, immediately, and am constantly checking in the rear-view mirror to make sure he hasn't turned his lights on. My mom kept telling me that he had no reason to, i was going under the speed limit...i was "doing fine"

But then -- you guessed it -- the lights went on. I was mortified!! What could I possibly have done? I pulled over nice and easy and made my friend hand me my purse in the backseat so I could get my learner's permit out. My hands were absolutely shaking.

The cop ambles up to the car and I roll down the window. He's maybe mid-20's. And, it seemed, on a power trip. My mom decides to take over from the passenger's seat, treating it all very nonchalantly: "She's just got her learner's permit, everthing's fine...she's just a little shaky."

The cop doesn't seem to want to hear any excuses -- he immediately says: "When a cop pulls you over, you are NOT to hide your hands." He's very ambiguous and i suddenly realize he's talking about me reaching for my purse. I stutter and stammer about how i was just getting out my learner's permit. he goes: "It doesn't matter. You could be reaching for a gun. I don't know." My mom actually LAUGHS at him (mom!) and says "What made you pull us over?"

The cop says: "All I see is four girls in a car, maybe joy riding, the driver checking the rear view mirror every five seconds, and swerving all over the road. You looked like you were drunk"

My mom laughs AGAIN and says "I'm not a 'girl.' And she's not drunk" And the cop obviously realizes by this point that he's got no leg to stand on, because he starts going on about how he couldn't "tell [she] wasn't a teenaged girl" and how I should "keep [my] hands in view when [I'm] pulled over." With one final warning about hiding my hands, he lets me go with no apology.

So basically I got pulled over and yelled at for something i did AFTER I got pulled over.

*sighs* my first time out...

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Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
The first time I was pulled over I was in college and driving the car that belonged to my girlfriend at the time. She had just recently gotten out of the hospital for a flare-up of her myasthenia gravis, a condition that left her in a weelchair (at the time. She flunctuated between using a wheelchair, a cane, or nothing at all, but she was always weak.) For nearly a month she had been in the hospital, with me visiting her every day, at the expense of my grades. A day or so after she got out, I had a trip out of town...Atlanta I think, but I'm not sure. Since I wasn't going to be there to take care of her, she went up to Fort Lauderdale to stay with her family. The day I got back was the same day she was going to be dropped off by her adoptive father. I got back well before she did, so I took her car to go get dinner at McDonald's. I got pulled over because one of her headlights was out. Funny thing is that it was still light enough out that I probably would have gotten away with not turning them on at all, but being somewhat safety conscious got me stopped. I had never received a ticket. I was dirt poor, and I believed that a ticket resultintg in an increase in my insurance rate would probably mean the end of my driving days. So I grovelled. I plead. I begged. The cop was on a real power trip, and he really enjoyed it. He wrote me three tickets. One for the burnt out headlamp--most people get a warning for this, I've since discovered--one for not being able to find her registration, and one for not being able to find her proof of insurance (mine was in my own car). When he started to write me a fourth, for not having my seatbelt on, I finally lost it. It told him there was no way I didn't have my seatbelt on, because I always wore my seatbelt everywhere. Interestingly enough, he didn't write me that fourth ticket, but he did write me the other three.

I decided that, no matter what else happened, I was never going to abase myself for a cop that way again. I would treat them with respect, but I would maintain respect for myself as well.

I've been pulled over a few times since then, but never given another ticket. I am always polite and respectful, and apologetic if I've done something wrong, but I never grovel. This attitude of respecting them and respecting myself seems to be well-received by police officers.

Now I'm older and more mature than I was then. I drive very safely and have not been pulled over at all in years. But that would be my advice for anyone who gets pulled over. Respect the people who protect us, but no ticket is worth degrading yourself over.
 


Posted by CalvinMaker (Member # 2032) on :
 
I've yet to be stopped by a police officer throughout my 2 years of driving. Lord knows I should have been though, whether for something intentional or not.

I'd say I'm a decent driver. I know I'm not super careful or anything, but I've also been in the car with plenty of friends, and the ride has often been downright scary.
 


Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
You did exactly right, Mack. Keep your hands in view, be polite and tell the truth.

Cops are usually good guys(and gals). They have a tough job for pretty low pay, and they don't get the respect they deserve. If you given them respect, you'll likely get well treated in return.
 


Posted by Paul (Member # 3904) on :
 
The first time I was stopped by the police was kinda funny. I was driving down the highway, and I see a broken down bus, and someone waving. So I pulled over and asked if they needed anything, and I found out it was the Police! They asked if I would give Sting a ride to the nearest time to call a cab, and I did. It was super-cool, and I got his autograph!
 
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
 
Belle's right. The most frequent scenario for in-the-line-of-duty injury and death of police officers is during a routine traffic stop.

Often, they are so relieved to see a normal citizen who is actually cooperative that they'll give you a stern warning and call it even.

I have received three citations for moving violations in my 28 years of driving:

1) Made a U-turn in downtown Westwood right in front of a cop. CA does not allow U-Turns unless the intersection is marked with permissive signage (which almost none are). But I was afraid of getting lost, so I did the turn to get back to the road I knew. Dumb.

2) I was squeezed out of the right hand lane on the NJ Turnpike and there was middle-lane construction. This meant I could not get over legally to get to my exit. Those of you from NJ no doubt know that taking the wrong exit off the turnpike is a MAJOR problem involving unfamiliar surface streets in some very dicey neighborhoods. So...I crossed through the cones and exited. Right in front of a cop...again.

3) I was speeding on I-10 outside of Tallahassee. The trooper actually apologized in a way. He said I was going so fast he couldn't let me slide. Oh well. My only excuse was that the rental car I was driving was so smooth and powerful compared to my usual car at the time that I had no idea how fast I was going. It could've been anything... Of course, I should've been monitoring my speed.


 


Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
Sheesh. You people. Warnings!?! Tickets!?! Well, I never...

Actually, when I hired off-duty cops, they used to enjoy pulling me over to say hello, lights and sirens and all. They thought it was terribly funny.

Other than that, Miss Goody-Two Shoes has never been pulled over.

I'm disappointed in all of you.


 


Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Yeah, well, you're a geek who never turns on her AIM.
 
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
My husband got pulled over by one of the local cops here. For those that don't know, my husband owns a plumbing company.

So the cop flashes lights and Wes stops. The cop gets out and Wes says, "What?"

Cop: "You're speeding."

Wes: "I was not."

Cop: "Well, you've got a taillight out."

Wes: "I do not!"

Cop: "Aw, hell. I need a water heater. How much?"
 


Posted by enjeeo (Member # 2336) on :
 
LOL@mac

My favourite getting-pulled-over story:

I was driving down Brighton Highway, chatting away to two very talkative friends who were with me, and RAN A RED! Just as I look up and notice that I am doing so, I also notice a cop car in the lane next to me. I'm screwed, I know it, and I don't want to be chased down the road, so I pull over the left to wait for him. After a moment, he leisurely pulls out and drives over to park behind me.

"So you realise you ran the red light, right?" he asks.
"Yes, I know. I'm really sorry about that. My friend was saying something to me and I didn't notice it had changed from green."
He pauses.
"So why didn't you keep going?"
I look at him in surprise. "But then you might think I did it on purpose!"
He pauses again.
"Okay, off you go, and be more careful."

Then he leans into the car and addresses my two friends. "And stop distracting her."

I was also once pulled over for speeding, and the cop was SO polite and pleasant about it that I rang the station to compliment him to his superior officer...in spite of the fact that I did receive the ticket! I was not at all surprised when the same guy won a service award a year or so later. I have no doubt he earned it.

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Posted by Wendybird (Member # 84) on :
 
LOL Belle

The only time I've been pulled over was several years ago. I had just finished grocery shopping with my then 3 yr old and 1 yr old. It was dinner time, they were screaming, traffic was heavy and I was so exhausted. I got to the light to turn onto the freeway lamp just after it turned red. I pulled next to the car in front of me who was going straight. Unfortunately this meant I was pulling onto the shoulder. A cop was behind me so as I made my right turn on red (there was no oncoming traffic!) he pulled behind me lights flashing. I pulled over, the kids are screaming bloody murder, I"m obviously tired and about to sob. He took one look at the situation, grinned and said "You know you're not supposed to do that right?" I said wearily, "I know." He said, "Consider this a warning, get home safely." I cried all the way home from relief and from stress. Now I always make sure no cops are around whenever I pull into the shoulder to make my right hand turns
 


Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
 
My first time being stopped by the police:

My father and I were driving home from a hockey game late one night. It was between 11:30 and 12 and I had to be at class early the next morning, so I was in a hurry to get home and get some sleep. I was about a mile away from our freeway exit when I see flashing lights behind me. When I pulled over, the cop said I had been speeding (and passed him) - "I paced you going 72 mph". I was stunned. I was driving an old (1982) Chevy Sprint - it is has a 3 cylinder, 1 liter engine. I didn't think it was possible for something that small - with two adults in it, no less - to go that fast. He asked me where I had been and why I was in such a hurry. I said I had been at the hockey game and had to be at class early in the morning, so I wanted to get home and sleep. My father, nicely enough, never said a word. At least the cop was nice and didn't give me a speeding ticket - he gave me a "waste of finite resources [gas]" ticket - only $30 and no points.
 


Posted by Paul (Member # 3904) on :
 
Cops can't give you a speeding ticket by pacing you. Well, they can, but they don't hold up in court. That's what one of my friends says, anyway, confirmation, Bob?
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
I got pulled over for not keeping my blinker on for at least 5 clicks! How stupid is that? I had it on for 4 before changing lanes.
 
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
 
One night several years ago, I was driving home from work at about two-thirty in the morning. I was really tired; had to work about four hours past my scheduled time to get off work. I was out in the country and saw these extremely bright headlights racing toward me at a high rate of speed. At that time there had been several instances of gang members taking their business out into the country and harrassing drivers; I made that connection and sped up (I had been going the speed limit, 65 mph, and had sped up to about 75 mph) trying to get into the town where I live and head to the police station (I wasn't going to lead them home). Well, the headlights kept getting closer and closer and when the car was to the point of tailgating me, the sheriff's deputy turned his lights on and pulled me over.

When he came up to my window, he made some smart remark about how fast I had been going. Well, I was tired and I was pissed off by then, and I flat told him, "You scared the crap out of me. I thought you were a gang-banger or something." (Well, I didn't say "crap", but this is a family site after all.) He seemed to think that I should have just kept to the speed limit until they shot at me or something, if it had been gang members. Fortunately, he got a call and had to go, or I would have gotten a ticket. It would have been my first. So far, I still haven't gotten one; hope to keep it that way.

I still think that was dirty of him; he was going over the speed limit before I was - had to have been to come rushing at me so fast that it alarmed me in the way he did.
 


Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
Yeah, cops do that. I was going 80 mph on highway 99(runs north and south in California from Yuba City to just south of Fresno) and a cop sped by me going nearly 30 mph faster! He obviously had some more important ahead or else I would have had a ticket.
 
Posted by Ophelia (Member # 653) on :
 
I got pulled over after only having my license a week. I was playing one of the fairies in a high school production of A Midsummer Night's Dream, and after Friday night's performance the cast decided to go to Denny's, still in make-up. As you can probably imagine, fairy make-up was pretty gaudy and sparkly. Plus the hair had braided my hair around wires so that it stood stright up in two horn-like things. But that didn't bother me at Denny's. Anyway, we ate and talked, and around 11:30 we dispersed, because kids under 17 aren't allowed to drive between midnight and 5 AM in Michigan. Halfway home, I saw the flashing lights and pulled over. The officer came up to the car and looked at me. First he asked me where I was coming from. I'd completely forgotten that I had fairy hair/make-up, and just answered "Denny's." So then he asked me if I knew why he pulled me over. I had no clue, but I had learned in driver's ed that if you admit some small thing you are more likely to get away without a ticket, so I said that I might have been going a few miles per hour over the speed limit, but I wasn't sure. The cop said that, no, that wasn't it; did I know that my headlights weren't turned all the way on? Unbeknownst to me (I had done most of my pracitce driving in my family's other car), I needed to pull on the handle twice to get the lights all the way up. He asked to see my lisence, and only then, as he was looking at the picture on it and trying to match it with my disguised face, did I remember that I wasn't looking quite normal that night. "Uh, I don't usually look like this," I stammered. "I'm in a play and haven't gotten a chance to shower yet." The officer laughed and said that since I was such a new driver, and since I couldn't legally drive after midnight and it would take me until then to get home, that he would let me off without a ticket.

I have some stories about campos (campus police) and parking, but I don't feel like writing them right now; maybe tomorrow if I decide they're interesting enough.
 


Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
The lesson here is that girls can get out of tickets MUCH more easily than guys can.

Sheesh. I've been ticketed for having a bumper sticker larger than the legal size for the state....

 


Posted by Lead (Member # 918) on :
 
For someone who is as paranoid of a driver as I tend to be, I seem to have a shocking number of getting-pulled-over stories. My defense is that they all occurred in Utah, where first I was a teenage driver in a small town, and later a young adult driver who -- due to the cars I owned in those years -- apparently fit a local profile and was fair game. Since leaving Utah, I've been pulled over exactly once. But my younger years netted some funny stories.

My first time to be pulled over was after leaving a friend's house one night. A few of us had gathered at this friend's house to watch videos on a Friday night while his family was out of town. His father just happened to be a local sherrif officer. Before midnight three of us piled into my car and pulled out to head home, and less than 2 blocks from his house a car appeared behind me, and started flashing me with a spotlight. Now, I was young -- just 17 -- and had never been pulled over. I had never seen how an unmarked vehicle pulls someone over. And at first he was just flashing me with a white-light spotlight. Then he flashed me with the red-light spotlight. The first had startled and confused me, as well as my passengers who were new to the area and had originated from large urban areas. One friend was afraid that a car spotlighting us was some local hoodlum up to no good, out to take advantage of a car full of young teen aged girls. At the red spot light, I stated to my passengers that I thought I was being pulled over, but of course there ensued some disccussion of the matter. I did pull over, after only a few seconds of hesitation. The officer had literally no reason for having pulled me over, either. After further scaring my friends and I by spending 15 mintutes grilling us and shining flashlights in our eyes and around the car interior, he let us go without ever giving us a single reason for having pulled us over in the first place. It wasn't until later that it finally hit me that they were keeping an eye on the house where we'd been visiting precisely because my friend's father was a sherrif, and that they were checking up on who had been visiting this man's son on a Friday night while he was out of town.

While I lived in SLC, my dad sometimes would be working in Richfield (not quite 2 hours south-ish) for a week or few. If my schedule allowed, I would drive down there to have dinner with him while he was there. One night we'd sat around the local diner quite late talking, and it was after midnight when I started back towards home. As I was pulling onto I-70, I got pulled over. I had literally not cleared the ramp yet, and in fact stopped near the top of the ramp getting onto the interstate. The cop, as most cops did to me in those days, spent a lot of time peeking around the inside of my vehicle looking for some reason to search it. (This seriously was a problem for me for many years. I did not have a lot of money, and was driving some old clunkers in those days: a '69 Dodge Dart, really really freakin' turquoise; a '70 VW Beetle, the same shade of blue as Alice's dress in the Disney Alice in Wonderland; a '74 Beetle, dull orange nearly indistinguishable from the rust rotting out the bottom half of the car. But getting pulled over continued even after I had the much more respectable grey Subaru wagon or the beige Nissan Sentra. VERY few of these incidents resulted in me getting a ticket. Most were for some extremely minor reasons that were clearly in the hope of being able to spot something in the car that would allow a search.) So here I am, at 12:something am on like a Thursday or something, sitting in my car while this cop grills me about where I've been, and why I'm on the road at this hour, all the while not even looking at me, but training his light all around the inside of my car, disappointed at finding nothing more incriminating than a lot of dog hair, and far more leashes and boxes of dog treats than is strictly normal. (This was in my pet-sitting days.) After 5 or 10 minutes of this, tired and knowing I had a long dull drive ahead of me and had to be up early in the morning, I asked why he had pulled me over. His reply? "You were rapidly approaching the speed limit." No joke. Rapidly approaching the speed limit. On an on-ramp. Imagine that. He did let me go without even a warning.

One of the funniest, though, was the day I moved to SLC. We left Cedar early on an August day. My parents were in my dad's truck, with half of my belongings. I was in my Dart, with the other half of my belongings. Less than 20 miles from home my dad's truck broke down. He futzed with it on the side of the road, and managed to get it moving, but it wouldn't go more than 30 or 40 miles an hour, and was backfiring about twice a minute. We stopped in Beaver, Filmore, Scipio, Nephi, and Provo for repair attempts. Did I mention it was August? It was HOT. Over 100. The Dart, of course, had no a/c. Hell, neither did the truck. We had to stop quite a few times on the side of the road, as well. I would sit in my car parked behind the truck, watching my dad working under the hood. He was pissed. He was beyond pissed. And you've got to understand that my dad does NOT lose his temper often. In fact, that was exactly the second time in my life I'd seen him actually angry. He was angry enough that he was swearing. A lot. Slamming around under the hood of that ghastly beast of a truck, cursing up a blue streak. Neither my mother in the passenger seat of the truck, nor myself in the Dart, dared to even so much as take out a book to read while we sat, sweating, on the side of the interstate. We each just sat, staring silently ahead, until he'd get it moving again and we continued, limping along and backfiring, lurching far below the speed limit, back up the road. We finally found our way into Salt Lake, and to my new apartment, arriving over ten hours after we'd left Cedar (normally a 3-1/2 hour drive). We parked the truck there, unloaded only enough of the Dart to get my parents into it, and wearily drove off to find their motel and some place to eat. I found their motel near down town. We checked them in, and walked to food, ate, then walked back. I said I'd see them the next morning, climbed back into the Dart, and turned it towards my new home.

Now, those of you who know SLC will understand why this is funny. The motel we found them was the one down on, is it State, or Main (?), and 500 South. This motel does not have a very good reputation. In fact, I clearly recall in later years seeing it mentioned in the local news more than once, the location of busted drug rings, prostitution rings, and murders. Additionally, 500 South is a one-way street. Actually, it's basically one huge on-ramp for I-15. Everyone who lives there knows this. 500 S. is one-way west-bound, 600 S. is one-way east-bound. But I didn't know ANY of this that evening. All I knew is that when I pulled up to the exit from the parking lot, I had to get south-bound on I think it's State. I looked left and right, saw that the cars coming from the left were stopped at a light, and that there were no cars between myself and what I took to be the far right-hand east-bound lane of the road I was facing. So I could dart across this road in a left hand turn, then make my right turn onto State. This is what I did. Imagine my surprise when, just seconds later, a cop who'd been at that west-bound light whipped around the corner with his lights on, pulling me over. It was at that precise moment that I realized that my license was in my wallet, which I'd tossed on top of the laundry basket full of books that had been in the seat next to me earlier, which I'd carried into my apartment to make room for my parents. All I had on me was the scrap of paper with directions to my apartment. So here's this very nice, young police officer. What he sees is a young girl, sweaty and more than slightly unkept looking, in a turquoise '69 Dart, leaving the parking lot of a known bad motel and wrecklessly cutting the wrong way on a one way street. (I will say that the distance I traveled the wrong way on this street was about 15 feet or so...I more or less had driven straight across it from the parking lot exit which was very near the corner of the lot.)

"May I see your license and registration please?"

"Here's my registration, but I'm afraid I don't have my license. I accidentally left it at my apartment."

"Do you know why I pulled you over."

The cop looks around my vehicle, seeing hampers with clothes, and what appears to be random junk, crammed into the back seat. (All the boxed up, well-packed items were in the back of the truck.)

"No, I'm sorry, I have no idea."

The officer gently snorted, understandably not believing me. "You traveled the wrong way on a one-way street."

"I did? Where?" I looked over my shoulder, and could now clearly see the large ONE-WAY arrow signs. "Oh. I'm sorry," I stammered, rapidly losing what was left of my composure.

"You didn't know that 500 South is a one-way street?"

"No, I didn't know."

"How long have you lived here? This is the on-ramp to I-15."

At this point I burst into tears. I really did. I was exhausted, and the day had been so stressful, and to be honest, my main fear was that my parents would see me from their motel room, having been pulled over, having broken the law. I was supposed to be an adult now, about to start college, moving out on my own for the first time, and less than 2 minutes after dropping off my parents I was going to get arrested for wreckless driving and not having my license. I fumbled for my scrap of paper as I stuttered and stammered and sniffled. "About 45 minutes."

The officer stared at me a minute, I can only assume trying to decide if I was being truthful or was feeding him the world's worst line. Was this girl really some young college kid, confused and tired, or was she a hooker, or a dealer, trying to work him? And having broken down, I just kept bawling, tripping over my own toungue trying to explain about parents, broken truck, 10 hours, hot, dad swearing and throwing wrenches, hamper, apartment.

Well, bless his heart, he sided on the side of believing me. "Ma'am, where is your apartment?" he asked, gently taking the scrap of damp paper from my hand. He did give me a ticket for not having my license on me, but carefully explained that it carried no points and there wouldn't even be a fee for that if I showed up at the court and proved that I had one. He explained about 5th and 6th South, and told me the best (least confusing, bless him) way to get back to my apartment. He even gently and tactfully said that if my parents were going to be in town very long that we should probably find them another motel to stay at, and gave me the name of one that was affordable and nearby. (He did this last without even scaring me about where I'd just abandoned my parents with no transportation, merely stating that it wasn't the "safest" place around.) He actually gave me a tissue, and made sure I was calmed down before sending me on my way with a smiling verbal warning not to be going the wrong way on streets any more.

It wasn't until a year or so later that I'd seen that motel in the news a few times and fully realized just what that poor officer must have been thinking when he first pulled me over. I'm lucky I didn't end up in jail on my first night on my own. *G*

~~~Lead

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Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
 
Everyone laughs at my first and only ticket story because I actually pulled over before the cop pulled me over!

I was at work and taking a Nigerian guy out with me to show him some of my water-sampling sites. I'm going about 65 in a 55 on a country road, which most people do in the area. The guy and I are trying to find some thread of conversation to keep going and he starts talking about how he always speeds and has never gotten a ticket. He was telling me that he once told an officer that he was on his way to the hospital and got out of a ticket!

My natural insecurity at this point causes me to speed up a bit. There's no one else on the road and I'm cruising along chatting.

All the sudden I look up and passing me in the opposite direction is a cop. I blush bright red and immediately pull off to the side of the road knowing the cop isn't going to let this one slide. Sure enough, the cop spins around and pulls up behind me to give me a ticket. I was honest, apologetic and I figured that he was just going to give me a warning, especially since I pulled over before he even spun around. He tells me that he'll do me the favor of writing me a ticket for going 73 in a 55 instead of 75. I was so mortified!


 


Posted by Paul (Member # 3904) on :
 
He was going the opposite way, and you pulled over before he put his lights on? Then how did he know how fast you were going?
 
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
I have a load of good police stories, but none compete with, "How much is a water heater." I laughed out loud.

Mostly, polite cooperation is the key. Policemen are human. Few are cruel or sadistic, and they don't stay in traffic long. Its too boring.

Here are my top 4 traffic ticket stories, mainly because I'm bored today.

1) Never speed in a working construction zone. Police there are protecting other peoples lives, so they do care if you go 5 miles over the speed limit or 25. (Yes, you must slow down to 55 on that highway you usually do 70 on.)

2)There are some towns that are speed traps. Anyone in St. Louis stay out of the south county village of St. George. They give you a speeding ticket for doing 35 in a 35 because the local sherriff thinks you were really doing 35.5, and the judge backs up the police. Its the towns major source of income.

3) Highway I55 is a major route for illegal drugs from Mexico to Chicago. One of the main ways it is transported is in the back of a U-Haul trailer. I know this because I was stopped by a rookie highway patrolman while hauling a U-Haul trailer on Hwy 55 between St. Louis and Chicago. He checked out the car and trailer, found nothing illegal, then proceded to tell us about the sneakier ways to transport drugs. He realized that we were friendly, cooperative people and we were not mad at him for disturbing our trip. So he decided to chat for a while. He was trying to explain why he had to stop us, and brag about how good of a job the police were doing. But what he told us came out entirely different. He told us where they had found it in other peoples cars, how to hide it from the drug sniffing dogs, and what the best routes were to run the drugs. If I had ever considered getting into the drug running business I would have taken notes.

4) My father owns the best story though. He was pulled over--by the Fire Department.

He had turned an old school bus into a homemade camper. It had all the conviences, from TV to Microwave Oven to Airconditioning and wall to wall carpeting. It was nice. On its test run he was headding out of the small town where he lives to the nearby highway. The local volunteer fire department was returning from a call with their new fire truck. They passed each other, and my dad's friends in the department waved. He waved back. Suddenly the firetruck spun around, the lights went on and they pulled up behind him. My dad pulled over to let them pass. They pulled over behind him.

My dad was confused.

Then the firemen jumped off the truck and proceeded to start hosing down the back of the bus. The emergency brake on the converted bus had stuck. A shower of sparks had followed my dad for a couple miles, finally setting the engine compartment (in the back of the bus) on fire. My father hadn't noticed.

Sometimes its good to be pulled over.
 


Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
 
Yes, he was going the opposite way and I was going 75 and didn't tell him that, so he must've been able to tell somehow.

*giggle* Dan_raven, yes, sometimes it is good to be pulled over! Wow!
 


Posted by Paul (Member # 3904) on :
 
Since I've never been pulled over (thank God, I think they take away permits for moving violations on my state, and they certainly take them away for driving without a lisence), but my friend Joe has been pulled over before, and I figure I'll share his most colorful story.

He and his friends get together on Fridays to watch Anime (but they watch dubbed crap, so I don't participate), and it usually lasts until late into the night. He had worked late and then been out late the night before, and he also has a sleeping disorder (RBD), so he was intensely tired. He decided to pull over until he was fit to drive, so he did. A few people stopped by and asked if he was OK, because he was pulled over on a back street in the middle of the night, alone. He said he was fine, but I guess he sounded pretty spacey to them, because they called the cops on him.

This cop shows up and asks him what he's doing and asks for his lisence and stuff, and he gives it to the officer. The officer then makes him walk a chalk line and begins accusing him of being under the influence of various drugs. First he thought he was drunk, then he asked if he was on some kind of downer, then he asked to open the trunk, and when he began to search in it (Joe has a very messy trunk), he said, "I'm not going to be cut by any... razor blades, am I? Or poked by any hypodemic needles?" Finally after badgering Joe for a while, the cop left him alone. Joe always thinks it's funny that the cop thought he was drunk, on downers, on coke and on heroin.
 


Posted by Paul (Member # 3904) on :
 
Christy - Maybe he just estimated? I mean, if everyone goes 65 normally, and you just pulled over, he probably assumed you were going really fast, and when you didn't complain when he said he would go for 73, you didn't protest.
 
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
 
Doesn't take that, Paul. There are radar/lidar guns which automaticly compensate for the speed of the police car.
In the general case, police pacing of a suspect car is considered more reliable as proof of speeding than radar/lidar.
 
Posted by Paul (Member # 3904) on :
 
Are you serious? Crap. Now I have to start carrying a gun to shoot cops with, instead of just saying they couldn't possibly know how fast I was going with. (Just kidding, me and Ice T aren't really Cop Killas.)
 
Posted by Paul (Member # 3904) on :
 
quote:
I drove 66 the rest of the way through the state.

Gotta be defiant, don't you? You make me sick. (kidding)
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
You know, all this discussion of being pulled over reminded me of a story from my childhood.

We used to drive from Ohio to Chicago every year with my mother to see our grandparents (when they still lived part-time in Chicago, that is). Anyway, we had a VW Hatchback. It was this horrible oatmeal color. Anyway, living right off the lake, and lake effect snow and all, there was a lot of salt down all the time which did incredible amounts of damage to cars. This particular car had a ton of damage done to the right front fender (I have no idea why that section was so badly damaged, but it rusted a hole right through it, and although there were other sections that were bad, this was the worst and the most easily replaceable). So, my dad went to a junkyard and got a replacement fender. Unfortunately, the only one they had was from what I can only describe as "tangerine" color hatchback.

So, not only do we have a horrible color (oatmeal) car, but the car has a tangerine fender. So, we (mom, brother, sister and me, ages about 4, 12 and 8, respectively for the kids) pile in the car and head out to grandma's! Somewhere along the way (Indiana or Illinois) we get pulled over. Mom is upset because she wasn't doing anything wrong and, quite frankly, wouldn't you be upset if you had to drive from slightly east of Cleveland to Chicago with three brats?

So, the cop comes up to the car and starts asking her where she's been, where she's going and then asks where she was on some specific past date. (Like "Where were you last Saturday night.) His partner, this whole time, has been writing down the license plate and then looking at the front end of the car. After a while, the cop talking to my mother goes back to his car (presumably to run a check on the driver's license and car plates) and the partner plants himself in front of the car. After about a half an hour, the cop comes walking back up to the car, passes the window and talks to his partner for a few more minutes.

Finally, he comes back to the window, hands my mom back her license and explains that a few days ago, an oatmeal colored VW hatchback with an orange fender had been involved in a fatal hit and run!!

The horrifying thing wasn't that he thought that my mother could have been the driver. The really shocking thing was the thought that there two oatmeal colored VW hatchbacks with orange fenders!!!


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Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
quote:
The lesson here is that girls can get out of tickets MUCH more easily than guys can.

That's cause we're so much better looking than you guys, Tom.

**Ela**
 


Posted by graywolfe (Member # 3852) on :
 
Got my license in the summer of '92 when I was seventeen. Had a clean record until the fall of '98 when I had to drive back and forth between the bay area and the Sierra's (where my parents had moved to a year before)as I looked at different apartments to rent. Then one day in mid october, I'm driving back on a saturday in the mountains, haven't seen a car in more than an hour, and finally see a car in front of me heading down into the Carson Valley below as we both leave the mountains. Its around 9 at night or something like that and as I continue forward I'm thinking, hmmm, speed limit is 65, haven't seen a car until this one in the past hour or so, he's going 70 or there abouts, I'm going 74. Should I pass him? Seventy is good enough right? As I'm debating, I finally decide that seventy is fine and so I slow down a bit just in time to see a car racing down the windy mountain rode behind me. Its going pretty fast, so both I and the car slow down a bit so it can pass us without trouble, rather than tailgate us (the lane heading in the opposite direction has been free of cars for nearly an hour as well so passing is not a problem, visuals are fine because the winding has stopped as well), and then this speeding car, much like in the case of mackillian, turns on the lights, and ahhhh cr@p! Cops. And my first ticket ever.

I listen to my tape of the 2001 soundtrack and play it as cool as possible but I get tagged anyway. My first ticket, and it was deeply irritating to realize that I hadn't done anything outrageous to get it. I'd just been speeding on a quiet Mountain Highway with UFO's being more frequent concerns than other cars, and been caught in the act. Just seemed like a real weak way to get it.

No less than two weeks later when making another run, this time to the bay area, I got tagged for speeding when I got boxed in by two or three semi-s and decided to speed around them on an overpass (there was a small opening if I slowed down and whipped around to the left of them). Stupidly forgot that overpasses usually come with merging connectors, and sure enough a cop was coming on the free way just as I was accellerating 10mph to 75 to jet around three semi's via the fastlane (switching across three lanes and speeding up by 10mph apparently is attention getting ). Didn't get out of that one either. He was very nice about it, but I knew I had no excuse and so did he. Major bummer.

Didn't get another ticket for three years until August of 2001. Then one thursday evening I drove home after a tough day teaching only to realize I needed green onions and garlic which I had forgotten to purchase. The simpsons was about to be on in a few minutes and I needed the humor so I raced to my car. Hopped in, and raced the two blocks to the grocery store. The problem? I did a Texas roller and a cop nailed me for it. Yet another weak way to get a ticket, and this time I got it when I was driving to a grocery store litterally three blocks from my house. A 10 minute walk!! God did I feel stupid. Such an idiotic way to get a ticket, but again, I had no excuse. He was very nice too, and I ended up only having to pay a minimum fine (he decided to get me for not wearing a seat belt instead of for the Texas roller)but I still look back at that as the penultimately stupid way to pick up a ticket.

All that being said, I can't imagine being Leonide. That must have been absolutely awful. Must have really screwed with your confidence. You definitely have my sympathies. Then again, the day I got my license, I was driving home with my mom and hit a four way intersection, lanes going north and south had two lanes apiece, lanes going east and west had one lane apiece. So I wait until its my turn from the left side of the Northbound lane to turn left and head west a half mile to our house. Sure enough its my turn, I slowly pull out and begin making the turn when this car jets into the intersection from the south bound lane, without really analyzing it, I whipped the steering wheel right to avoid it, pumped the gas so the turn would come be fast and sharp and miss hitting the car that went through the stop sign without even slowing down by half a foot at most, then right after whipping the wheel full to the right, I whip it again full left to sweep my car into an arc so I can avoid crashing into the car stopped in the southbound lane. The turning radius of the car I was driving was terrific, and the whip right, whip left manuever saves me from a collision with the non-stopper, and a collision with the one who did stop by about a foot apiece, I head home with mom chest heaving up and down and looking at me like I drive like 007.

To this day I have no idea why I decided such an unorthodox manuever, I suppose it was because I figured a crash was inevitable if I used the breaks alone, and I didn't want that in my first day with the car, so I tried something radical, but I don't know how I thought that could work. Maybe from playing that video game Off Road back in the eighties when I was a kid. Whatever the reason the maneuver prevented an accident but scared the bejesus out of my mom, and the poor car heading southbound that had actually stopped at the stop sign. I can only imagine what they thought as they saw a car whip to the left (from their vantage point) and acclerate, than whip right, heading towards them with a spurt of great speed before turning just in time and heading west.

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Posted by flyby (Member # 3630) on :
 
The first time I got pulled over, fortunately my dad was in the car so I didn't completely freak out. I was going 30 in a 25 zone RIGHT BEFORE IT TURNED INTO A 35 MPH ZONE!! I think the cop was just bored. He just gave me a warning and let me go. It was insane, I was only going 5 over and just about to go into a higher speed zone. It speeds up really fast. The other direction my dad had been driving and it slows down really fast. I had noted him going 60 in the same zone, but he probably would have gotten a ticket if pulled over.
 
Posted by Ayelar (Member # 183) on :
 
Graywolfe, you got ticketed for 70 in a 65? In California?

*stunned*
 


Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
I've gotten three tickets in my driving career so far, all of which kind of irritated me.

The first was for rolling through a stop sign in the middle of a deserted parking lot. It was especially bad because I was following a friend who jetted through the stop sign and because I was going slower and was the one in the rear I got pulled over.

The second was for going 76 in a 65 zone on Highway 101 in Calabasas, California. Anyone not familiar with that region should know that the average motorist drives about 85 there, and on that day it was no different. I would have been better able to appreciate the ticket if it had been for driving too slow or obstructing traffic or some such, but it was a speeding ticket and I wasn't speeding nearly as much as a bunch of others.

The third was the really frustrating one, although it wasn't a moving violation so at least I didn't have to go to traffic school. I had recently gotten a new car which happened to have tint on the front windows, but the dealer assured me that it was within the legal limits. I'm leaving work one day and a block after I leave the parking lot there's a driver's license checkpoint. Not a sobriety checkpoint. A driver's license checkpoint. I was confused because I'd never heard of such a thing, but I figured I was fine because I had my license and registration. When I rolled up to the checkpoint the officer yelled at me for having tint on my windows in such an accusatory way that you would have thought he caught me smoking crack with his mother. What really gets me is that the purpose of a driver's license checkpoint, unlike a sobriety checkpoint, can't be safety, but can really only be to give out tickets. And not 2 blocks away was a street where everyone drives about 15 over the limit every day.

Argh...
 


Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
I wonder where the money from tickets goes to, he says to himself.
 
Posted by graywolfe (Member # 3852) on :
 
Ayelar,

yep, really stinks. I was pretty close to the 65/55 change so he may have read it different but the HWP around that section in the Cali/nevada border tend to be a bit too cowboyish at times. But considering all the b.s. people pull around there I can understand it.

One word of advice, never ever speed around Minden. Good lord, they have a four lane situation in the middle of town, where anyone in the bay area would be driving a minimum of 35-40, but they ticketed anyone and everyone that went an inch over thirty on that four laner for the first five years my parents lived there. On my brothers first visit to the new family home there he immediately got pulled over. He got out of it because my mother explained that he was from the bay area and had never been in town and assumed the limit in a four laner was 35. The cop was nice about it and let him out of it, but since that day five years ago I've seen inumerable guys get nailed for going 5 mph over the absurd limit. I finally found a way out of it, during visits a year later when I found this country rode that had a forty limit, but was a little bit of a long cut. The scenery and ability to drive 45 instead of thirty made the long cut worthwhile, plus its perfectly designed to avoid getting tagged by cops. You can see for miles in both directions, so you have plenty of warning before a cop is coming up on you from the east or the west. So now I always take that route, and happily avoid the annoyance of puttering around a retirement community with leadfoots terrified of yellow lights and cops ready to ticket anyone going above thirty (and sometimes even below thirty, the limit is 25) on a four laner.

Incidentally, in your (or anyone else's) experience, where are the worst drivers?. In the bay area, driving on 101 is a horror show of ineptitude but 280 is usually smooth, almost an autobahn, and 680 is usually nice as well, 880 is a nightmare and for some reason no one knows how to merge on highway 24 in the east bay. And I can tell you as a Californian, that seemingly none of us can cope with rain. The second rain falls on a freeway, the driving experience suddenly turns into a collection of DVD outakes from Cannon Ball Run, everyone careening into eachother, hitting the breaks for fear that they get swept out to sea...it's absolutely crazy.
 


Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Usually its part of the town budget of the police department, SS. So many small towns on major highways rely on ticket money (to the extent of becoming essentially a shakedown spot) that several states have passed laws preventing towns from earning more than a certain percentage of their budget from traffic fines.
 
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
 
I got my only ticket in Maryland. My best friend (who is more like my sister) and her boyfriend and I were moving my some of my stuff from NYC to GA. Her parents had loaned us their huge sedan and it was packed with some of my clothes and all of my shoes. The back seat was filled with shoes, from the floor to the back window. It was my first turn to drive.

Now, I learned to drive when I was 9. Where I'm from, you drive when you can reach the pedals. There are a lot of long, empty country roads in Georgia and very few of us can resist the temptation to tear up the road. I've always been kind of a speed demon, but never reckless.

So, I was doing about 80 in a 55 mph zone and I get pulled over. I knew to put my hands on the wheel. The officer asks for my license and registration and Jen was having a hard time finding it in the huge packet of papers that her parents put in the glove department for us. We're all waiting as patiently as we can when she burst into tears. I mean she really started bawling. Mark and I and the officer just stared at her for a minute in stunned silence. Then my survival instincts kicked in.

Kira (to officer w/ charming smile): She's just upset b/c I'm moving back to Georgia.

Kira (to Jen in whisper): Shut up!

Mark (also whispering to Jen): Seriously, shut up, he's going to arrest Kira.

Officer: Would you mind stepping out of the car, miss?

So I got out of the car, silently cursing Jen. It was really windy, so the officer asked if I would mind sitting in his car while he called in the license to make sure the car wasn't stolen. I, of course, agreed. Once in the car, I notice that the officer is pretty young and very cute. We're waiting for the station to call him back and he ever so casually says to me, "Your friend is pretty upset. You wouldn't happen to have any drugs in the car, would you? Because we would just confiscate them and let you go on your way with a small fine."

Now, I didn't have any drugs in the car and I'm not an idiot. I told him that of course we do not use drugs and there are none in the car. To which he replied, "That's cool. You wouldn't happen to have any weapons in the car? Because there's not even a fine for those." Luckily, all of my competition rifles were still in NYC and my other gun was in GA, so I was able to assure him that there were no weapons in the car.

I guess we must have looked pretty seedy to him b/c he asked me if he could search the car! Maybe it was the shoes. I said that he could and it seemed to satisfy him. I couldn't believe he thought I would buy his line about fines and confiscation for drugs and weapons. Anyway, he gave me the smallest ticket possible (only 10 miles over), which was really nice of him.

And Jen never lived it down.
 


Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
You had plastic explosives in the shoes, I know it.

Anyway.

"Why do you always get to drive? Is it because you're the guy? Because you're the macho man?"

"No. I was just never sure your little feet could reach the pedals."

I know who can place that quotation immediately.
 


Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
<looks at driving record, winces>

Let me tell you. Being male sucks.

Anyways. Next time be sure to blast some NWA with all the windows open when he comes up. He'll be sure to be nice to you then.
 


Posted by Paul (Member # 3904) on :
 
*turns down stereo*

*quickly whips out lisence and points it at him*

"Here's my lisence!"

*gets shot*
 


Posted by JaneX (Member # 2026) on :
 
quote:
"Why do you always get to drive? Is it because you're the guy? Because you're the macho man?"

"No. I was just never sure your little feet could reach the pedals."

I know who can place that quotation immediately.


Sure, fine, whatever.

~Jane~
 


Posted by sarahdipity (Member # 3254) on :
 
Grrr. So I got a ticket this weekend. He not only ticketed me for speeding but for the cracked windshield. Of course, the windshield has been cracked for 4 years and has been driven on the highway for most of that time. So his lecture on how it would blow out if I drove it on the highway didn't convince me like it ought to have. I'm getting a new car soon and really don't think it's worth replacing.

But here's the kicker. This is my 2nd ticket. The last ticket was 4-5 years ago. Last time it was a lapse in attention down a hill that got me the ticket. This time I honestly had no idea what the speed limit was. I find that the speed limits are posted very infrequently in many of the side roads in Massachusetts. I'll admit that I speed. But why do I always get stopped when I have *no* clue that I am speeding? I don't think I'd have as much of a problem if it was one of the times I was driving 80 in the 70 just because I wanted to get someplace quicker. Sigh. And of course the well I didn't realize statement just sounds like an excuse. grr grr grr
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
So spill.

How fast were you going and what was the limit?

[Wink]

*mass noogies massachuetts state troopers*
 
Posted by coil (Member # 4571) on :
 
Driving down Route 15 (Merritt Parkway) in Connecticut, a dark windy little 4-lane highway, passenger cars only, etc., late one night after a swing dance. I was driving my girlfriend's Mustang, which has a broken speedometer (completely inaccurate below 30mph, and consistantly 10mph fast above that). I get the "frikkin tailgater," followed moments later by The LIGHTS OF DEWM, and pull over.

He asks me how fast I was going. I had thought that the speedometer became more and more accurate as it went higher, so I guessed 80 (which is what the speedometer read).

He then asked me why I didn't have my seatbelt on. I told him the truth - what else could I do? The driver's side seatbelt was broken; I pointed to it coiled like a dead snake on the floor of the back seat. Noelle (my GF) wasn't feeling well, and was half-sleeping reclined in the passenger seat under a blanket. All in all, I think we were a pretty pitiful sight. He went back to his car.

Finally, he came back, and said, "I clocked you at 74 miles per hour. That'd be a $290 ticket, but I'm going to give you a $34 ticket for the seatbelt. Drive slower." And he left.

Moral: if you're going to get pulled over, either be a vulnerable cute chick, or have one on hand. [Big Grin]

-edit- Oh... and if you're going to lie, lie in the wrong direction. ^^

[ March 22, 2003, 11:48 AM: Message edited by: coil ]
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
Remember, now that you're a career criminal, Police Officers are hitherto referred as "Tha Poe-Lease."
 
Posted by sarahdipity (Member # 3254) on :
 
I thought I was going 45. He thought I was going 47. Apparently it was a 35 mph zone. *shrugs* I don't recall the sign. Ironically right before I saw him I asked my passangers if anyone knew what the speed limit was.

Then my friend replied, "Well there's someone who will probably be happy to tell you."

The ticket was $130. $95 for speeding, $35 for the cracked windshield. He kept looking at my car oddly too. Maybe it was having Nebraska plates in Massachusetts.

When he asked why I thought I got pulled over I told him that I thought it was because I was going 45 in the 30. (There was a 30 mph speed limit right after the spot where he was sitting.)

He then went on to tell me it was a "clearly marked" 35 mph zone. If I'd been in the mood to really get a ticket I would have asked where the last sign was. Maybe I just missed it and it was really close. *shrugs*

Edit for a spelling error.

[ March 22, 2003, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: sarahdipity ]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Isn't there something about you can't be ticketed within 100 feet of a speed limit sign (changed speed limit) because you're still speeding up or slowing down?
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
I got pulled over again on Tuesday.

This happened in a town in my work's catchment area, I'd just come from working to support clients at a day camp. Being unfamiliar with this particular road, I'd just pulled onto it and gotten up to speed with traffic, all of which was doing 'round fifty, fifty-five.

Cop flies by me in the opposite direction.

He pulls a u-turn and flicks on his lights.

[Eek!]

He pulled ME over.

Asks me if I knew what the speed limit was. As I'd JUST passed a speed limit side AS I pulled over, I explained that to him. Limit was 40 for those of you who're curious.

He asked if I knew how fast I was going. I said "Fifty five. I thought it was fifty."

He gets my license and registration and says he's going to run my license.

Now, the guy really is being all nice and stuff. It's a heat wave up here in NH (mid-90s) and I'm hot and tired and just want to leave, as I'm late now to pick up another client.

Cop comes back and says, "I'm still going to issue you a summons because it's a bit fast for this road."

I hate karma. He said I was going fifty-seven.

Now, I'd fight it, but I figure, for those four weeks when I was manic and driving in excess of 95-100mph on the highway and didn't get stopped (and I'm still in the belief that I NEEDED to), it's karma. It's irony.

It's so damn ironic, that my therapist started laughing when I told him about the ticket.

So much for them having empathy. [Wink]
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
I got stopped for crossing the road in the wrong place. Can you imagine? I've got a driving license for 5 years, haven't been stopped once, and then I get a ticket for crossing the road? [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
I don't get it. How do you cross the road in the wrong place? [Confused]
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
Uh. Like not on the pedestrian crossing, but in a place where you're not supposed to cross it.

you mean you can cross streets anywhere you want in the US?
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
No, though we can cross at any place a crossroad "should" be at in addition to those places where they actually are. Also, in most cities jaywalking (crossing at the wrong place) is a totally ignored crime.
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
Yeah I thought it was an ignored crime here, too.

<--- was wrong
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
I thought you were in the CAR and crossing in the wrong spot. See where that confused me? [Wink]
 
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
 
Ahhh [Big Grin]

No, I haven't tried that yet [Big Grin]
 
Posted by qsysue (Member # 5229) on :
 
I used to live in the ghetto. A neighborhood of Tacoma called Hilltop, it was known as the worst gang neighborhood in the state when I lived there.

One night I had to go pick up my husband at a friend's house, and I had our older son with me, he was about 1 year old. I had to pull him out of bed to go.

We lived on the corner where all the drug deals went down (addicts would hang out on the sidewalk and dealers would drive up in their cars--curbside service), and there were always cops parked in the alleys and stuff. I had barely turned the corner when I got pulled over. I didn't have my headlights on, and didn't realize it cuz the streets were so well-lit.

The cop shone all his spotlights on us from behind, and came up to my car, shining a flashlight into the back, checking things out. He said, "Bad hair day, huh?" while I was digging for my license and registration, but I didn't know what he was talking about until he'd gone back to his car to check for warrants and I turned around to see how my son was handling the experience. The spotlights from the cop's car was shining behind him and his curly blond hair was sticking up all around his head, making a giant halo.
 
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
 
Mack, it was definitely your turn, no doubt about it. I have the list right here in front of me. You don't come up again for a few months, so have fun!
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
I hate taking turns! [Mad]
 
Posted by Icarus (Member # 3162) on :
 
Bob neglected to mention that it's his job to write the list. That's why I cook him dinner as often as I can. Notice how I've never gotten a ticket? You should send him some cookies or something.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Cavalier (Member # 3918) on :
 
Haha, My first "pulling over" (of a sort) occurred when I was 14. I didn't even have a car.
Experience#1
I was walking to my friend's house along main street, minding my own business. Suddenly, this local cop pulls up and waves me over. He says, "Just what do you think you're doing? The stores [along the street] don't appreciate loiterers." I told him I was just walking to my friend's house. He tells me to stop giving him back talk and to stop loitering. I shrug my shoulders and continue to walk down the street just like I was before. He pulls off and leaves. To this day I still have no idea why the guy felt the need to stop me. There was absolutely nothing suspicous or illegal about what I was doing.

Experience #2
About a week after I get my license, I'm driving down the highway. It was after rush hour (9:00) and there wasn't much traffic. I had only been on the highway once or twice before during drivers' ed and wanted to get some practice. I did some lane changes (correct signals and whatnot) and adjusted my mirrors a bit. As I'm getting ready to get off the highway, this state cop drives up and pulls me over. He does the license and registration bit and then asks me if I'm drunk. I was dumbfounded. Being drunk? I thought I was getting a minor speeding ticket (going 59 or so in a 55, but I don't even think I was doing that to be honest). I tell him no and ask him why he'd think that. He responds that I was swerving around in the traffic lanes. I ask him if there was anything wrong with my signaling. "No." Did I do anything truly illegal then? Aagin, "No." "So i got pulled over for doing a few perfectly legal lane changes?" "That about sums it up" he says. He then told me to watch myself and not do it again. Once more, I was left scratching my head in confusion.

An added note: I'm not sure what Mack thinks about MA state cops (sneeringly referred to as "state-ies" locally) but anyone I've ever talked to hates them. All of the ones I've met have been nothing better than jack-booted thugs (some do actually wear jack-boots, btw). To give you some idea, the one that pulled me over had his sunglasses on...at 9 o'clock at night. I can only guess that this combined with his (aforementioned) jack-boots and flashlight in my eyes was for intimidation. I've heard numerous stories of them pulling people over in the middle of the day solely to mess with their heads. Never heard any about them helping anyone out. Take that for what you will.

Experience #3
I was driving through the town next to mine and got pulled over by a local cop at about 11 at night. I found out later there was a party going near the street I was driving on. He looked at my license, saw I wasn't from that town and assumed I wasn't at the party after assuring himself that I wasn't under the influence of anything. This story isn't so bad, he was fairly polite and brief. However, I question the legality of stopping someone's car just because of their age (17 at the time) and the neighborhood their driving through (as that was the rationale he offered.)

These are my only cop stories. It's for unlucky people such as myself (innocent but presumed guilty) that amendments 4,5, and 6 were put in the constitution. Eh?
 
Posted by IrishAphrodite19 (Member # 1880) on :
 
Umm...I got my first ticket the other night.

I've been working as a counselor in Toccoa, Ga for the last month and couple of counselors and I had our night off. We had been to my lake house and got pulled over on our way home. (Note: I know I was in the wrong during the whole ordeal.) I left the last big town on a state road randomly thinking the whole road was 70 mph, so I set my cruise control on 85ish. As I entered a little town, a police pulled out behind me with his lights on. Grr. So I pulled over.

Turns out it was a 55 mph work zone. Grr. (Can you still get in trouble for work zones if there are no workers present?) But he went and checked me out, and started to give me my ticket. At which point I started crying and begging. I told the man I worked at a camp and I was going home, I told him it was my first ticket, I begged him for a warning. But no. He gave me the ticket for 37 over.

But the husband of my camp's Director is going to make some phone calls for me and try and get it reduced, cuz if its not my liscense is gonna be suspended. Ohno.

~~Irish~~
 
Posted by Marce al'Meara (Member # 1027) on :
 
I still don't drive, so my only experiences with cops pulling a driver over have been as the passenger.

The first time was during my senior year of high school when I was dating seriously for the first time ever. My father was understandably a little...uptight (I'm the youngest of three, sixth child from dad's third marriage--what do you expect?). In other words, if dad said get home at 5:00, I was home at that time. Except for the time the bf was driving me back and we were running a bit late, so he was speeding and got caught. I don't think he managed to talk the cop out of the ticket on the excuse of psycho fathers.

The second time was with my oldest friend. She liked to blast loud music out the windows of her big, blue Buick and go visit random places with me in the car. One night, she convinced me to come find her friend Sebastian at a tiny county airport out ... somewhere ... beyond the suburbs.

Sebastian wasn't at work and it was dark by the time we began to head home. The little county road was dark, though you could see the city far off. She thought she saw something reflecting in her headlights on the side of the road. Having been stalked downtown by some real weirdoes every time we were there, she was rather wary. She flashed the brights at it and revealed... a cop car.

He pulled out behind us and pulled us over. I was fine with it until Ms. Driver began spazzing out and flailing her hands about. I screamed at her to put her damn hands on the wheel or the poor cop might freak himself and shoot us. Then he asked for her license and we just could not find it. We knew, however, that it was in the car (I'd moved it before we began the adventure)--its exact location was just a slight mystery. The cop refused to let us out to search the seats for it. I was about to get frantic when my friend reached under her skinny butt and pulled out her rainbow colored wallet. [Embarrassed]

He let us go, but we had to do a u-turn on the intersecting country road. Then we slowly got out of there, with the feeling that the guy took us for morons and was quite impatient.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Just make sure they aren't all in the trunk.
 
Posted by Wetchik (Member # 3609) on :
 
I have been pulled over for changing lanes without blinking my signal more than three times.
[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by fiazko (Member # 5812) on :
 
i don't have any actual stories worth sharing, but i'd like to dispute the idea that girls get out of more tickets than guys. i have been pulled over in three different states, and i got a ticket every time. granted, the two speeding tickets (the other time i ran a red light) were reduced, but there was still no chance of me getting out of them.
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
I got a speeding ticket last month. (63 in a 45)
I've seen 6 police cars already today. [Angst]
That makes me REALLY nervous.
 
Posted by Dash Rendar (Member # 3571) on :
 
Lol Mackillian..... the other day I was driving through Mancestah with my aunt, and we ran into no less than 5 cops, just driving through.
 
Posted by Starla* (Member # 5835) on :
 
First experience:

I was 18 years old and on my way to an 80s party. I had it all--the spandex, the boots, the off-the-shoulder. And the hair. Big hair--well, not yet, I left my hair in curlers.

I was a few miles from home when I realized I forgot something. I turned around to go back. I see the flashing red lights.
Crap, I think. I thought I was only going 55.

Well, the cop walks over, takes one look at me---80s garb, curlers, and all---and looked like he was about to burst out laughing.

I had been driving a year and a half, so he only gave me a warning. Or maybe it was the outfit. [ROFL]

Experience 2: My fault completely. Had been at a friend's house about 50 miles from home, and was trying to get home. I was speeding--50 in a 35.

I was kinda stressed. The cop asked me if I lived at the college and that the address on my license was my permanent. I told him I lived at the address and I was running late and trying to get home. I guess he saw I was scared.

He gave me a failure to obey a sign. $44, no points. I could have kissed his toes because my parents would have killed me if they found out.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
FOR THE LOVE OF PETE.

Exiting the highway down an offramp onto a highway connector. The speed limit drops to 45 right as you exit. Cop was waiting right there. I didn't even have time to react, so I didn't even bother with hitting my brakes because he must've already tagged me with the radar.

Dammit.

He gave me a ticket. [Wall Bash]
 
Posted by Spektyr (Member # 5954) on :
 
Hehe, the stories I could tell...

I've been pulled over, well more than a few times. Normally for a damn good reason. I'm male, I'm not quite "middle-aged", and I have the typical testosterone-ridden tendency to permit mood to dictate my driving habits.

When I'm mad, I drive fast.
When I'm happy, I drive fast.
When I'm looking for a bathroom, I drive fast.

Basically I just drive fast.

Heck, I used to street race habitually. (Never actually got pulled over for racing though - strange.)

The story in particular that sticks out in my brain as the most significant time I got pulled over was several years ago when I was in the Navy and stationed in Florida.

One of my fellow sailors and I got nominated to make a beer run. (I was stone sober.) We hop in my truck (1990 Nissan pickup with, shall we say "non-standard" equipment under the hood) and head off base to the liquor store because the NEX (Navy Exchange) was closed. I pull up to a red light, sit for a moment, then it turns green and I pull away. Rather quickly, but I don't break the speed limit. Unfortunately there was a small amount of sand on the pavement at the intersection and the rear tires broke loose for about a second. Quite a weak "squeal" considering what the truck was capable of. (Banshee-wailing starts with plenty of tire smoke, followed by impressive squealing at the 2nd and 3rd gear shifts).

No sooner than I cross the intersection than a squad car I hadn't seen is roaring up behind me. Then he follows me for another block before turning on his lights. I hate that. No, I hate that. "Gee, let's race up on the guy and see if we can make him nervous enough to do something else stupid."

He gets out, walks up to my door and does the standard "Lemme see your license and registration" thing. I hand him my license, registration, and military ID. He then throws the latter back into the truck through the window.

"Why'd you give me that?" he asks. "You think I'm going to give you some special treatment because you're in the military?"

"No, because I'm required under the Uniform Code of Military Justice to identify myself to any peace officers as a member of the United States Navy," I reply coldly.

Then he asks me why I was racing on the highway, to which I respond that I wasn't on the highway.

"What do you call that back there?" he says, pointing at the road I'd just pulled off.

"A street," I say.

"Don't argue with me," he shoots back.

"I'm not trying to argue, I just thought that highways were the big roads with the high speed limits, the ones you drive on to get across town fast or between cities," I explain.

"You thought wrong."

He then goes on to give me a ticket for "exhibition of speed".

I had the urge to redecorate his anatomy with my licensed Beretta 9mm I was illegally carrying under the front seat, but thankfully this was an easily controlled urge. The gun was legal, the way I was carrying it in the truck (loaded, chambered, safety on and under the front seat) was not legal. (It would have been legal if it was in the glovebox, though.) Plus the law does frown vehemently upon discharging a firearm at other people, particularly police officers no matter how mouthy they are.

Don't get me wrong - I don't hate cops.

I just hate that certain peope become cops. Particularly the "no one ever took me seriously so I'm gonna become a cop so I can boss people around" kind of cops. Those are the ones that give the rest of them a bad name.
 
Posted by Spektyr (Member # 5954) on :
 
Oh, and I dodged a ticket one time that probably would have gotten me arrested. Driving long-distance in the aforementioned hot-rod pickup...

I got caught in a slowdown for about an hour, doing 45 in a 65. Enormously frustrating. So when I finally got out into the clear I opened 'er up a bit. Or rather more than a bit.

I came up over the top of the hill and saw the lights coming from the other direction, took a look down and saw the speedometer pointing resolutely at what I guessed was 115 (the numbers stopped at 100).

I immediately downshifted and let the engine begin slowing me down until I reached 65. I then pulled into the far-right lane and waited for the cop. He'd made a wild U-turn and started racing up from behind when he turned off his lights. A few moments later he went by me so fast it nearly sucked my truck into the left lane.

All I can figure is that with the topper on it (I'd put it on because I was moving some stuff I didn't want to blow out) the truck looked enough like a "old man" kind of vehicle that the officer didn't believe I could have been the culprit who was hurtling along at solid triple-digits.

Needless to say I didn't repeat that performance for quite awhile.
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
I can't even remember how many speeding tickets I've gotten in the 9 years I've had my license.

Luckily, they're spread out over eight states, so none of them have suspended my privileges. [Smile]

Strange thing is, I've made about two dozen coast-to-coast trips without ever receiving a ticket on one. And I've never gotten one in town. All 12 or 13 have been on short road trips. I no longer volunteer to drive on those.

I once got three tickets in two hours in three different states. Don't they realize that making me sit for half an hour just means I have to drive faster to make up for lost time?

Once, I lost my insurance card and got a ticket for it. Had to go to court for that one. The day after my hearing, with my brand new insurance card still in the pocket of the pants I wore to court, I got pulled over again.

I've gotten out of quite a few recently, though. Somebody mentioned it earlier, but it's always best to overestimate your speed.

"Do you know how fast you were going?"

Good answer: "145?" (works best in school zones)

Bad answer: "Not as fast as you were while you were chasing me."

I'm seriously considering putting one of those "Support your local law enforcement" stickers on my back window. Possibly more than one.
 
Posted by Maccabeus (Member # 3051) on :
 
Never been pulled over, though I haven't had a car longer than a couple of years. Hopefully I can match Mom's driving record--she was in her forties before she ever got a ticket. (They changed the speed limit on a familiar stretch of road and put the new sign behind some bushes. [Mad] )

So far my one encounter with cops was in a fender-bender near Fort Campbell. It was raining, we were driving through a construction zone, and the cars ahead suddenly slowed. My brakes didn't catch me quickly enough and I skidded (slowly) into the car in front of me. The woman driving leaped out of the car and began berating me, insisting we not move from where we were (in major traffic, in a single lane due to the construction). Not wanting to risk someone like that telling the police I had moved my vehicle to hide guilt, I stayed. No real consequences, not even much of a talking-to, despite the fact I had forgotten to switch insurance cards.

I suppose the woman was just afraid--I can understand the feeling, myself--but I really hated being screamed at. My car was more damaged than hers (bent bumper), and neither of us was hurt.
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Paul wrote:
quote:
Are you serious? Crap. Now I have to start carrying a gun to shoot cops with, instead of just saying they couldn't possibly know how fast I was going with. (Just kidding, me and Ice T aren't really Cop Killas.)
I was reading these stories along fine and really enjoying them, until I got to this, above. Paul, I KNOW you were only joking, but please realize that you did some serious hurt to me with those words. My dear daddy was a killed-in-the-line- of-duty cop (as has been mentioned before here). When people joke about things like that above it really, really hurts. I already have enough fights with my kids to turn off the "cop mode" on Grand Theft Auto.

Your statement just caught me so off guard that my defenses weren't up yet, as I was reading the stories, and it broke me.

I was going to share my funny "being stopped" story, but now I've lost my desire to do that....

Farmgirl
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Farmgirl, I'm sorry. [Frown]

quote:
The woman driving leaped out of the car and began berating me, insisting we not move from where we were (in major traffic, in a single lane due to the construction). Not wanting to risk someone like that telling the police I had moved my vehicle to hide guilt, I stayed.
Per the advice of a police officer friend, my husband and I now carry a disposable camera in the glove compartment (for visual documentation of the scene).
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Thanks, CT

I hadn't even yet made it to Spektyr's post:
quote:
I had the urge to redecorate his anatomy with my licensed Beretta 9mm I was illegally carrying under the front seat
I think I will just stay off the list for a couple days until I get these emotions back under control. I'm physically SHAKING with emotion right now and can hardly type. It is always just so much harder around holiday time anyway without daddy....

I KNOW that no harm was meant by any of my friends here at Hatrack with these words. I know that in my head, but that feeling just hasn't made it to my heart yet. So give me a couple of days to sort out the emotions...

And Josh, don't use the Asperger's as the reason you posted the above unthinkingly. You were honestly posting what you did actually THINK at that moment in your life. (unless you are just needless bragging to make the story better). It is sad that you thought that.....

Farmgirl
 
Posted by Dead_Horse (Member # 3027) on :
 
Mack, I'd seriously think about sending Bob some nice Christmas cookies or something. He warned you about this back in June. [No No]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
*thwaps Bob*
 
Posted by butterfly (Member # 5898) on :
 
My driving history:

I've been driving for about 3 years almost and I've never gotten a ticket, which is actually really strange since I always speed when I'm going home from school or vice versa (usually up to 75 in a 65 unless it's raining; then i go 55) but then again I'm in California.

Here's my story:

I had to attend a seminar when I was 17 where I could learn about these scholarships for college. Even though I had my license for a couple of months by this time, I was still really nervous about driving anywhere I wasn't that familiar with, and it didn't help matters when I realized my dad was going out of town so I had to drive there by myself. I went to mapquest to get the freeway-less directions (at that time I was really freaked out by having to drive on freeways (I'm such a wimp)) and I made it there without any problems. To get there, I had to turn right, turn left, and then turn right again. When I started to go back home, I thought that it would be simple just to follow the directions except go backwards (left instead of right, etc.) but then apparently I missed a right turn somewhere so I ended up on this street that was pretty familiar since we go to the Costco there. I had an idea (not a good one, just an idea) on how to get home if I took the freeway. Except, I was freaked out by the freeway and just decided to go straight instead of turning right which would've led me to the freeway (which was scary anyway since you have to switch four lanes to get onto the freeway or otherwise you would end up driving the maze of the airport since that was right next to the Costco). So I keep on driving on this road, which was right next to the freeway so I could see from the signs on the freeway that I was going in the right direction (south). So while I'm driving, I see that this police car is following me so I stick straight to the speed limit at 35 mph. He follows me for about a mile or two (at which time I'm checking my mirror and my spedometer every 30 seconds) and finally decides to turn right. Unfortunately, that was also the turn that would've taken me home because I know that road, but instead I went straight. Finally I realize that I've gone too far and I make a bunch of turns (having no idea what the heck I'm doing and for all I know could've landed up in Mexico). I finally end up on this street in the city directly south of mine (my high school was on the street that was the border between the two cities) that I realized would hit the main road, which I knew how to get home from. Unfortunatly, I was in the left turn lane and almost ran a red light getting into the right lane. From there, I got home all right and called my dad in Taiwan to tell him what happened (unfortunately I think I woke him up because of the time difference) and halfway through the story he asked me why I didn't just put on my emergency lights so the policeman would know I was in trouble and could just lead me home. Geez, I almost had a breakdown and I could've just done that.

The End.

PS: That must have been my longest post ever. [Big Grin]

[ December 06, 2003, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: butterfly ]
 
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
 
Well, Bob's got no room to talk. He got a speeding ticket for going 81 in a 65 in Kansas on the way home from Caleb's.

[Grumble]
 
Posted by Spektyr (Member # 5954) on :
 
Farmgirl, you're making some key misinterpretations here. First off (at least in my case) the violent thoughts weren't spawned because the guy was a police officer, but because he was a flaming jerk-off. Of course the fact that he was a cop, and I was therefore powerless to speak my mind or argue with him in any way, I was far more frustrated and angry than I would have been in most situations. But I wasn't thinking "Gee, maybe I should shoot this guy because he's a cop." I was thinking "This guy is a Class-A bonehead who's having fun making my life more difficult than he actually has to in the execution of his duties. It would be nice if I could fight back."

The other misinterpretation is a common one between women and men. It has to do with the way the two sexes deal with stressful confrontations. Men are far more prone to have thoughts of violent solutions - which they by and large do not act upon - than women are. We're much more prone to saying things like "I could just kill that guy," and entertain ourselves with graphic imagination of the various scenarios we could theoretically enact, but those of us who are even marginally civilized realize that these are merely indulgences and not viable solutions.

I'm sorry about what happened to your father. Truly I am. I would just caution you against transfering too much of that event on what other people say. While I understand the sore point behind it, I personally would not do it because it creates a significant wall between oneself and others. I've lost friends and family in ways that come up in polite conversation from time to time, but instead of trying to make people conform to the events of my life and never mention things that might remind me of those losses, I accept the fact that my emotions belong only to me and other people have no responsibility for unintentional flares in my memory.

But that's just the way I feel about it.
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Spektyr said:
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I would just caution you against transfering too much of that event on what other people say. While I understand the sore point behind it, I personally would not do it because it creates a significant wall between oneself and others.
You are absolutely right, and I sincerely apologize for my emotional reaction to your statement.

Part of the scary thing of the emotions I felt when I read this thread Saturday was the fact that I DID have a reaction. I pride myself on not being an "emotional female" -- have worked hard for 20 years to keep emotions under total control. (That's how I've stayed successfully single for 12 years). I'm known around here for having a very thick skin -- very hard to offend. So the fact that I had a tremendous reaction when I read the two posts was a surprise to me, which probably compounded the feeling.

I had come to work on my "on call" Saturday, which meant I was in the building all by myself, and just kicking back, reading Hatrack posts in total quiet. It was a lot like having you all in the room with me, sipping coffee, talking and joking. For some reasons those two posts caught me off-guard -- the whole idea of murderous thoughts in the heads of my friends?

But as I reflected back on it over the weekend, I had to ask myself whether I had ever had a murderous thought before -- sure I have. (especially toward my ex-brother in law for the way he treated my sister). So I am guilty of those thoughts too. I probably have just never felt like writing them down, so graphically, because as a Christian I know it is wrong to think them, so I try to not record such a thing. But I'm human, and I am obviously no better than any of you, and have had similar thoughts.

I've lost other people close to me in various ways, and conversations of that type of thing has never bothered me before. I am usually pretty thick skinned, too, about this particular topic -- which obviously comes up now and then across society.

So I apologize for my emotional over-reacting. I very sincerely want all members here to feel free to post whatever is on their mind, without having to feel like there are things they can't share with friends.

Because of the length of this reply, I was going to send it to you via private e-mail, but thought perhaps it would be better to go ahead and post it, so list members would know the issue is resolved, no hard feelings all the way around.

[Kiss] (kiss and make up) (LOL)

Farmgirl
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
Rod's going to be jealous. [Wink]
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
[ROFL] <---Frisco

I guess I'm going to have to have Ralphie remove that picture..... <grin>

FG
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
Nah...foobonic's not really a family album. [Smile]

You might find it wise to steer clear of any beastiality threads in the near future, though. [Razz]
 
Posted by Spektyr (Member # 5954) on :
 
Don't be too hard on yourself,Farmgirl. Keeping one's emotions under control is certainly an important skill, but remember that control doesn't preclude having emotions. It just means that you evaluate before acting on them.

I too am a Christian, but I normally don't advertise it or even publically assosiate myself with that religion. I don't ever deny it - I just don't feel comfortable with the instantaneous stereotype many people get in their heads about "people like that". I don't attend church either, but that whole thing is a matter for an entirely different discussion. The point I'm trying to make here is that I firmly believe that the human mind is only marginally controlled by the human consciousness. Having homicidal or violent thoughts isn't wrong in and of itself. It's a matter of how you perceive them in your mind and what you do when you have them.

In my case I view it as a method to release stress in a socially-acceptable manner. I entertain the daydream of dismemberment (or whatever action I feel appropriate), follow it through to the logical conclusion (being apprehended by law enforcement) and decide that the person in question is actually not worth spending the rest of my life in jail over. This way I can "enjoy" the entertainment of the darker thoughts, release the tension of the moment, and move on constructively instead of obsessing over whatever perceived wrongs were done to me.

Now if on the other hand someone obsessively maintains such thoughts, whether they act on them or not - this is a prime indication that professional psychiatric help should be sought. I'm not sure exactly what is "wrong" with such a person, but my first thought would be "a great many things".

However, I feel that trying to classify certain innate, instinctive mental processes as "good" or "evil" is a little self-destructive. I could be wrong about this and the Big Guy may tell me so when I meet him but for now, with the perceptive abilities available to me I don't feel that thoughts are inherently wrong or right. It's far more important how one acts on them both mentally and physically.

When people talk about how great military health care is, it instantly reminds me of a young lady I was in love with that is not around anymore, thanks directly to that system. I recognize that the system itself was not nearly as responsible as her specific doctor(s), that the pain of loss that I feel is more a testament to the love we shared - not a "bad" feeling, and that the person who brought up the topic may very well have had many positive experiences related to it. It takes about the span of a single, deep breath to cover the spectrum of thought, and I can then listen quietly and wait for an opportunity to change the subject.

I guess the point I'm making is that your emotional response wasn't "wrong". If something hurts you, it hurts you. You've got a right to your emotions. It's more an issue of trying to understand whether the pain was caused intentionally or not, and then structuring the best response. In the case of this thread, the line between whether what others (myself included) said was "okay" or not is hard to place. I think it was very close, but not quite over the line. My goal in sharing the "dark" thoughts was to make a connection, to strike a familiar chord in other people since everyone has them from time to time. Looking back I can see how it was perhaps a little insensitive, but I stand by it as not being inappropriate for casual conversation.

So in essence I agree with your reevaluation of your stance, but not entirely with the way you did it. Not that it's any of my business, mind you. Just giving my thoughts and advice. I'm no expert, I'm no priest. I'm just a guy who pays attention to a lot of different things, so take the thoughts and advice for what they're worth. If they work for you, great. If not, toss them out.

[ December 09, 2003, 05:11 AM: Message edited by: Spektyr ]
 


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