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Posted by EllenM (Member # 5447) on :
 
I’ve noticed that a lot of you post from work. How do your employers feel about the waste of productive time, the use of company resources, and goofing off on the job? In addition, for you LDS crowd, how do you justify not giving an honest days work for an honest days pay.

[ROFL]
 
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
 
i remember reading an article where they advocated the benefits of a company allowing its employees to surf the net on the job, and that it actually helped increase production and worker moral...
 
Posted by aretee (Member # 1743) on :
 
Actually, I get a lot of good ideas from Hatrackers. It is part of my lesson planning, therefore, not a waste of productive time. Neh? [Razz]
 
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
 
I feel just fine about it, because I view having to work for a living as an hassle to be tolerated [Wink]
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
I love justifications. My sister is really good at it. [Wink] I should ask her about this question, seeing as I have no personal experience with surfing the web at work. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
Sometimes I post when I should be working. But lately, I've been posting a lot because I simply haven't had much work to do. In other words, I don't feel very guilty about it right now.
 
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
 
work shmork

Edit: pronounce shmirk to rhyme w/ work [Razz]

[ August 06, 2003, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: Evie3217 ]
 
Posted by Megan (Member # 5290) on :
 
I post from work because I'm a computer consultant in a university computer lab. This IS my work. Plus, I've got enough of a guilt complex as it is without adding to it. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
I use the downtime from waiting for processes to finish running. Also I get column ideas... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
The insanity at hatrack keeps me sane in real life, and my employers would much rather have me sane than insane.

(how's that for a justification)

actually if there is work to do, I do it, and if there isn't I post on hatrack. Sitting at your computer and looking busy even if you aren't is a job requirement.

AJ
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
This thread is a great demonstration of the great human talent for rationalization. A friend of mine once commented it ranked higher than sex on the scale of human needs...

To scoffers, he would simply ask - when was the last time you went a week without sex? When was the last time you went a week without rationalizing something?

Obviously, few honest people could come up with an example of going for a week without rationalizing.

So here's my own. My work situation is a little weird. I actually work a lot more hours - both in the office and at home - than I get paid for. No sympathy needed - it's my choice to do things this way with my line of work and many make similar choices.

Anyway, that leaves me a lot of flexibility in terms of taking breaks - and my connection at the office is much better than at home.
 
Posted by maui babe (Member # 1894) on :
 
My job involves a lot of waiting for people to call me back and my supervisors know that we spend our downtime doing personal things. As long as we close out our cases and get the rest of our work done they don't care.

In fact, I've mentioned a couple of times that I have a lot of free time and specifically asked if there is something else I could work on. My bosses (both here on Maui and over in Honolulu) have told me to "keep myself available" for an emergency... [Dont Know]

Besides, I don't get paid by the hour or by the day and I have to put in time on nights and weekends occasionally, so it evens out.

/rationalization

[ August 06, 2003, 04:13 PM: Message edited by: maui babe ]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
I am paid well to be remarkably good at my job, which involves planning networks so things don't go wrong, and fixing things when they DO go wrong.

If I'm doing my job well, as a consequence, my job involves thirty or forty days a year of frenzied, round-the-clock activity, and a heck of a lot of waiting around for things to break.

While I wait, I read technical articles and surf the Internet, because they won't let me just go home. I suppose I could join the typing pool, but the college considers that being able to reach me easily when disaster happens is more valuable to them than keeping me busy doing stenography.

I don't feel even slightly guilty about this.

[ August 06, 2003, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
I don't feel guilty at all (well, maybe just a smidge) about the amount of time I spend here. I ask for more support and more to do every day and my managers continue to give me either nothing or things that take a few minutes at most. Besides, I spend a lot of time multitasking, too.
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
I'm a little curious about why you put "or enema" in the title of this thread. No, make that very curious.
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
Is anyone here posting from a proctologist's office?
 
Posted by asQmh (Member # 4590) on :
 
I've been posting from SJCRH . . . I'm pretty sure they do enemas here.

But not in MY lab.

hehe. MY lab. I AM the secretary. . .

Q.
 
Posted by Tresopax (Member # 1063) on :
 
You don't give employers enough credit. They have the numbers to look at. They know how productive their workforce is being. They know workers spend a large portion of not-so-busy days talking on the phone, surfing the internet, writing emails, just sitting and thinking, eating, wandering around, and wasting time in a variety of other ways. They know all this and they pay accordingly.

The only people who really get screwed are the people who work more than the average person, and hence get less pay than they deserve because employers assume they are like the other workers. Of course, then one must wonder, if they don't need to do so much work to make their employer happy, why do they do it? Perhaps they want to impress. Perhaps they just get satisfaction out of it. Regardless, I suspect they are doing it for a reason and get something out of it... or else they really should work less at work. [Wink]
 
Posted by EllenM (Member # 5447) on :
 
I put enema in the title, tongue in cheek, because I thought I might get a real butt reaming over this topic. Darn, I was trying to be controversial and hopefully get a few of you p*ss off enough to get the posts flying.

CLOWNSHOE, CLOWNSHOE
 


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