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Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
For those men that cannot follow simple instructions, this thread is about BIKINI AREA RAZOR RASH. Now, scoot!

For the ladies: how on earth do you solve this problem?! It's become like finding the solution to something that is unsolvable or, at the very least, really really hard. (Happy, Deidre?) We have all sorts of brilliant, beautiful and most likely razor-rash-free women around here. Is this simply something some women are cursed with, while others look pitifully from the other side of the rashless glass?

And if not, if all women can be razor-rash-free, then what are your arcane secrets?!?

[ September 04, 2003, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Who else shaves the tops of their feet?

Why is it that the backs of my legs above my knees are so uncooperative 'bout me shaving them?
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
"The square root of a circle" is not a phrase that has any mathematical meaning.

Just, you know, FYI.
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
Oh, and as long as I'm here anyway...

::grabs panties::

Yoink!
 
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
 
eh...don't shave?

I hate shaving. That was the one nice thing about the long Alaskan winters. I could go 6 full months without having to even think about it. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Godric (Member # 4587) on :
 
::casually walks through thread whistling::

::looks around::

[Eek!]

[Angst]

::runs away::
 
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
 
My simple solution to avoiding razor rash:

Not shaving unless I absolutely have to.
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Really, I don't know. I just survive, and I don't spend a lot of time in a bathing.

I was thinking about the waxing bit. I have to ask, exactly how up-close-and-personal is that? That sounds quite up-close-and-personal. Anyone ever have it done? What's the process?
 
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
 
In a totally selfcentered thread diversion, I'd like to announce that I dyed part of the hair *on my head* pink this morning and it looks fantastic. [Big Grin]

If I can get pictures to come out okay, I'll link to them later.

edit: the part with the *'s [Razz]

[ September 04, 2003, 06:13 PM: Message edited by: jeniwren ]
 
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
 
I die my bikini area pink.
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
I will assume that you mean the hair on your head.

Given the thread topic, you really can't be too specific here.

[Edit: that was to jeniwren]

[ September 04, 2003, 06:09 PM: Message edited by: saxon75 ]
 
Posted by Julie (Member # 5580) on :
 
That's the beauty of soccer. I can get away with long shorts to cover most of my thigh and I have shin guards and long socks to cover my lower legs. [Razz] And I don't get much chance to swim. [Frown]
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Slash, that is exactly what I first thought jeniwren was referring to.
 
Posted by Deirdre (Member # 4200) on :
 
quote:
It's become like finding the solution to something that is unsolvable or, at the very least, really really hard. (Happy, Deidre?)
Yes, very. Thanks.
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
You know, in order to really rid ourselves of the guys, we need to discuss tampons. [Smile]
 
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
 
[Blushing] Okay, now THAT was embarrassing.

I edited it to make it a little more clear.
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
I certainly always appreciate it when people go back and edit their posts so that my responses make no sense.
 
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
 
Interesting.

I had a patient page me when I was at home last Saturday for help with a small rash on her leg. When she came in to see me yesterday it was quite obviously a razor rash. We talked about a few things she could try, but really, I didn't know the answer. I could see she didn't want to hear, don't shave [Big Grin]

Anyone know something I don't?
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
jeniwren, it was the promise of pictures that was befuddling me.
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
Right, and then someone else responds while I'm typing so it looks like I was bitching at them.

CURSE MY SLOW AND FEEBLE FINGERS!
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
Okay, so this is a GLOBAL problem. I'm happy to know this.

But what are the arcane secrets of Playboy models? I mean, besides being hotter than me. [Frown]
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
1. Airbrushing. Seriously - major, major airbrushing.

2. Let me google to see.
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
You know, if you look closely in movie credits you will often see people credited as "depilatrix."
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Julius Caesar had a guy on staff whose sole job was to follow him around, to wars and all, and pluck out ALL body hair.
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
But what about porn stars, Kat? I'm thinking razor-rash doesn't sell.

Somebody's keeping secrets from me, and I want out with it!
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
Lotions and chemicals. I couldn't find any formal studies, but there are a million products that claim to solve it.

Apparently, they are either ingrown hairs (the hair curls in on itself before it exits the skin), or else the hair exits the skin and burrows into a neighboring pore. In both cases, the bump appears because of your body recognizes the hairs as foreign objects. You're having an immune reaction.

It's the worst with shaving because shaving the hairs makes that "sharp" and more easily penetrate the skin.

To fix that... all the products offered are lotions or chemical exfoliants. The lotions soften the skin and hopefully the hair, and the chemical exfoliants take off the layer of skin that is trapping the ingrown hairs so they (hopefully) exit the skin.

So... exfoliate and lotion constantly?

A How-To Guide
quote:
First, be sure to adequately wet the skin and the bikini hair. Since pubic hair is much more coarse than hair on other parts of the body, this saturating step is very important. Using a large amount of a moisturizing shaving cream, such as Aveeno Therapeutic Shaving Gel, helps soften the hair even more, making shaving easier.

When you begin to shave, pull the skin tight with your non-shaving hand. Then shave in upward strokes. Make sure there is adequate shaving cream on the hair and skin before each stroke. Without this protection, you’re likely to get red and bumpy after you shave.

Some experts recommend rubbing an ice cube over the shaved bikini area to reduce redness and discomfort. A nice application of a soothing after-shave product, such as California North After Shave Care can help make you more comfortable.



[ September 04, 2003, 06:30 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
 
Heh, I thought katharina was going to google playboy pictures to take a closer look.
 
Posted by jeniwren (Member # 2002) on :
 
kat, pictures would be out of the question. LOL

Geez, I'm actually blushing...
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
Jebus, so did I!

[Edit: grumble, don't you just hate it when you don't get your reply in on time?]

[ September 04, 2003, 06:46 PM: Message edited by: Kayla ]
 
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
Tend Skin
 
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
I should add that I've never used this product so I don't know if it works well or not.
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
Actually, I believe it does just depend on the person.

Tough luck. [Razz]

I suppose you could always get those trendy suits with the little shorts.
 
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
lol jebus!

I've always wondered this too... That article was informative but didn't answer my main question about waxing which is the same as Katharina's concern; just how up-close-and-personal is it???

Also, anyone use like Bakini Bare or other hair removal lotions? How well do those work?
 
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
 
I'll echo mack's question, why do the hairs on the back of my legs above the knee never go away? [Grumble]

[EDIT: Yes, I can spell, thank you very much]

[ September 04, 2003, 07:11 PM: Message edited by: blacwolve ]
 
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
 
I fight a never-ending battle with thick, dark hair. It's pretty in some places, not so in others. I'm a big fan of facial waxing, but haven't tried it anywhere else. If I had a million dollars, the first thing I would do would be to get electrolysis on my legs. Wouldn't that be nice?
 
Posted by Julie (Member # 5580) on :
 
blacwolve: I think they're too thin. I have that problem too.
(edited because i didn't get it in on time)

[ September 04, 2003, 07:19 PM: Message edited by: Julie ]
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
I'm in with Annie. We should start a Hatrack Women Leg Electrolysis Fund.

Donate to us! We were hot before, make us even more! (hot)
 
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
 
Various friends have had various levels of success with the gels and creams. I suggest you use the winter months to test them out so you don't have visible burns and rashes in the spring before finding the one that fits you. They're nice if they work for you, they last longer than shaving and aren't as painful as wax.

I've never gone for a wax, but I hear it's less touchie than a full body massage, but you do have to be comfortable with strange hands there. Personally, I think waxing is just too painful to do to sensitive areas.
 
Posted by KEGE (Member # 424) on :
 
Ouch - that electrolysis HAS to hurt!

Not from personal experience, but from talking to those who have had the Brazilian bikini wax: it's as up close and personal as giving birth!

sorry Ralphie for calling you Slash's brother instead of sister! [Blushing]
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
I have an allergic rash reaction to chemical depilliatories like Nair, but preapplying hydrocortisone cream does wonders.

Never shave against the grain.

Yes, waxing there is a very intimate process, but
1) you can learn to do it yourself
2) it's very French.

[Smile]

[ September 04, 2003, 07:51 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
If you opt for waxing, don't do it yourself. Otherwise, shave with a brand new blade and finish with BikiniZone...it's an awesome after-shave cream.
 
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
 
I've never had my bikini area waxed. I didn't do well having my legs waxed - the skin came off instead of the hair, so I decided waxing was probably out (especially for the sensative bikini line). A friend of mine was being waxed at the same time (including bikini area). She had a regular bikini wax (not a Brazilian - where almost EVERYTHING comes off). It didn't seem like a huge deal (in terms of squickiness).

I've had limited success in shaving due to soaking, new blades, shaving with (not against) the grain, exfoliating before and after (in terms of days, not immediately after), good shave gel, follow-up moisturizers. I've never been able to completely banish the bumps and rash though. I've decided to use an electric razor. I don't get as silky smooth as with a regular razor, but I don't get a rash either. It is easy and quick to maintain (every couple days or so). I've been doing this for probably almost a year.
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
quote:
banish the bumps
This sounds very Cosmo. [Big Grin]

You know, if you title your thread "Girly Thread", the guys won't be able to stay out. They're hoping for some insight into how chicks work.
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
Yeah, or being pervy...

Why are you looking at me like that?
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
Brettly, I'm not sure how good an idea this would be but the main ingredient in aspirin is salicylic acid, which is also the active ingredient in most commercial acne facewashes. The oil sounds like it's mostly there as a medium, possibly with the added benefit of lubricating the skin. I always shave my face before showering, and I use a facewash with salicylic acid when I shower. I find that my face doesn't ever get very irritated from shaving, nor do I get ingrown hairs (even though I shave against the grain).

So maybe facewash would be another possibility for the girls. Still, I'd want a professional's opinion on the possible hazards before I went applying it to my genitals.
 
Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
 
Cause you're a guy in a girlie thread. [Razz]

[Evil]
 
Posted by KEGE (Member # 424) on :
 
Amka
[ROFL] [ROFL] [ROFL] [ROFL] [ROFL] [ROFL]
 
Posted by Damien (Member # 5611) on :
 
What about guys who understand bikini line razor burn?
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
I'd want to know what they are doing shaving their bikini line.

Actually, I'd want to know why they even have a bikini line. Why are they wearing bikinis? [Eek!]
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
Brettly - That was awesome. Whether or not it works (since saxon was so suspicious, and he's really SMRT) that was still KICKIN' RAD. I'm going to try some of the suggestions, like yours and the ice cube one. I'm also wondering if I should possibly fork out the dough for a professional waxing.

I'm also kicking around the idea of an electric razor, thanks to Lusti.

Thanks, guys, for being dedicated to removing unsightly rashes in Ralphie's unmentionable areas. It's just... well, it's a beautiful thing.

(Two pages for a bikini razor rash thread. HOOYAH!)
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Y'know, I have new thankfulness for the fact that I have never felt the need to wear a bikini. [Wink]

OTOH, as far as legs go, I find depilitories much more skin-friendly that razors or electric shavers. Most of the name brands are fairly effective. (Neet, Nair, Sally Hansen -- all good)

Who remembers that torture device with the coils? What was it called again? An Epilady or somesuch? *shudders*
 
Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
 
[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
I heard another trick that helps a lot from a friend of mine that was having problems with her underarms. [Smile] (For all the guys in this thread, I'd just like to say, pull up a chair.) She ended up letting her underarm hair grow out for 2 full months (yeah, totally gross!!) and then went and had it waxed. She said that it was as smooth as silk for 3 months after that with only a slight fuzz now and then that she could easily shave off. I think the same goes for the bikini area.

Here's to shaven underarms and bikini areas. [The Wave] Hey, these guys aren't even wearing pants!! They've shaved everything!!

[ September 04, 2003, 09:49 PM: Message edited by: Narnia ]
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
quote:
Here's to shaven underarms and bikini areas. [The Wave] Hey, these guys aren't even wearing pants!! They've shaved everything!!
And no razor burn! They are masters of their art, indeed.

edit: Wait - what about that red one? He might be experiencing some redness and chaffing.

[ September 04, 2003, 09:59 PM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
 
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
 
Could someone tell me brand names and exactly what kind of stuff I want for things like shaving gels, etc? My mom isn't really into this stuff, so I don't really have anyone I can ask at home. [Confused]
 
Posted by Pirate with Scurvy Interests (Member # 5614) on :
 
I've always heard you should use shaving gel, but I've always had better luck with soap. [Confused]
 
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
 
OK, this from my hairdresser, as she was ripping the hair off my eyebrows.

She said she never did bikini waxing, and this is why. I guess it is "in" right now with the college girls to wax their, um, rear ends.
 
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
 
quote:
Who remembers that torture device with the coils? What was it called again? An Epilady or somesuch? *shudders*
Well, rivka, I ran a small appliances department of Kmart in the early ninties, and I do remember those torture devices.

We sold over 100 in a week when they came out, and every single one of those suckers was returned within a month.

That's painful. You never get that even from cheap female razors!
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Bleh.

Probably because of all those low-cut pants everyone's wearing nowadays.

News flash: Hairless or no, I don't wanna see your crack!!
 
Posted by Avadaru (Member # 3026) on :
 
I use a cheap, generic brand of cold wax from the drugstore - it works really well, and though it is a bit sticky, it's washable so it's easy to clean. I'll try to remember to post the brand name, if anyone's interested.
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
It's terribly fashionable to wear hip-huggers with g-strings.

The biggest problem I see with this (in addition to the fact that I'm not personally attracted to it) is that many girls/women do not understand that this style is a PRIVLEDGE, not a RIGHT.

I strategically hide my poochy stomach. And, for Jebus sake, you should, too.
 
Posted by saberZedge (Member # 5274) on :
 
You know Ralphie, you made this lurker look at this " girly thread" from the title... skipping to the bottom (no puns intended) without reading any other replies, Hugh Hefner figured this problem out years ago... it's called airbrush... or you could go for some melted wax and rip the problem away. [Embarrassed] ...

Krank
 
Posted by Pirate with Scurvy Interests (Member # 5614) on :
 
Hey now Erik, no posing as a girl to get in here!!!! [No No]
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Yes. I agree with Ralphie's Rallying Cry, which I coin for her in absentia.

No low cuts for fat butts!!!
 
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
 
I'm getting in touch with my feminine side tonight... [Razz]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
I don't understand the belly shirts+hip huggers when you have a belly. I really don't. I mean, you don't look GOOD with everything going all over the place. *confused*

I took me till this summer to wear clothes that actually clung to my body. I still get jeans a bit too big.

I'm all insecure and stuff.
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
Wow - Any thread that gets KrankyKat out from hiding is a GOOD thread! [Smile]
 
Posted by saberZedge (Member # 5274) on :
 
Yep mac....girls & women with a visable belly hanging over the pants is equivelant to a guy with plumbers crack. PULL those pants up, please!

Krank
 
Posted by saberZedge (Member # 5274) on :
 
LOL, Ralphie.
 
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
 
The Brazilian craze is due more to the thong/g-string phenomenon than anything else....

And yes, I don't understand the need to wear hip huggers and tiny tops when you have a belly like mine....

Ooooh - Epilady!!! Those truly are Satanic torture devices! [Evil]
 
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
 
This... is the reason why I don't show any skin.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
Speaking as the person on the forum with the least amount of scruples, I would just like to say that I don't get why women wear tiny, little bikinis, anyway. They're not any more sexy than the bathing suits that that are, like, little short shorts, and let me tell you, if you think most women don't have the body to have their belly showing, that goes double for thong type stuff that requires you to shave so close to your holy of holies.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
*snort*
 
Posted by Human (Member # 2985) on :
 
Why would anyone bother to shave their legs, underarms and bikini area? They seem like painful, annoying, uncomfortable places to remove hair from.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
Mack, you're not fooling anyone. You've shown pictures on the 'rack. We know you can wear whatever you want. What's your body fat percentage now, anyway? -10%? [Smile]

[ September 04, 2003, 11:41 PM: Message edited by: Storm Saxon ]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
I don't like having hair there. At least, that's why I shave 'em.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
*thwaps stormy*
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
A little to the left and down, please.

[ROFL]
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
quote:
Speaking as the person on the forum with the least amount of scruples, I would just like to say that I don't get why women wear tiny, little bikinis, anyway. They're not any more sexy than the bathing suits that that are, like, little short shorts, and let me tell you, if you think most women don't have the body to have their belly showing, that goes double for thong type stuff that requires you to shave so close to your holy of holies.
I tried about seven times to come up with a non-offensive, yet articulate response to that, Stormy. I've erased every one.

If you can't figure out why a woman wants this piece of advice but not for the sake of skanky clothes, then there's really no way I could possibly explain it to you on a public forum. [Wink]

edit: added smilie so as to assure Stormy I was not offended IN THE LEAST and I hope he is not, either.

[ September 05, 2003, 01:25 AM: Message edited by: Ralphie ]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
[Eek!]
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
Woah, daddy. Was what I typed offensive? You're right. I don't understand why a woman would shave around there, except for cosmetic reasons. Maybe to prepare for surgery of some sort, but I don't think that's what you're discussing. I'm really super sorry if I said something wrong or implied something. I didn't mean to, honest.
 
Posted by BelladonnaOrchid (Member # 188) on :
 
Bah-having to shave your bikini line is evil. Not the person-the having to do. It is an act of which I don't know of many women that do not loath (yes, I am aware that sentence is not grammatically correct). [Mad]

I ONLY shave my bikini when I have to. And as for the recent trend around here (boy, the things that men do talk about when women are not around) for men to shave their unmentionable area [Eek!] : I don't expect my man to shave his, he'd better not expect me to shave mine. The way we see it: the God/ess made us the way we are-hair is part of that.

[Monkeys]
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
So, it's a cosmetic thing for her husband? If so, that's sweet. What a nice thing to do for the one you love.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
If someone wants to pop into Hatrack chat and tell me what's going on in private chat so as not to offend people, I'll be there for the next five minutes, aight?
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Now I'M confused.
 
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
 
You're not alone, mac....
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
Stormy - get back in there.

Even if I'm not there, I'll be back in a sec.
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
quote:
Here's to shaven underarms and bikini areas. [The Wave] Hey, these guys aren't even wearing pants!! They've shaved everything!!
They look to me like their in the process of having the wax ripped off.
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
That would account for the redness and chaffing on the third one from the left.
 
Posted by Chris Bridges (Member # 1138) on :
 
An authoritative answer from porn star Asia Carrera, proof that I will go to any extreme to assist Hatrack ladies.

"I just use a double-bladed razor with the little 'moisture-strip', nothing special. Don't shave every day, or even every other day, if you can help it, and that will help a lot with avoiding the little red bumpies and ingrown hairs. I always try to skip shaving for a couple days before a shoot, and then I'll shave at the end of a long, hot shower (that softens everything up) on the morning of the shoot. For stubborn red bumps, shaving nicks, etc, we often just dab a bit of foundation and powder on the area for coverup - but don't use makeup if you're wearing white/light lingerie, because it WILL smudge and stain if you're not super careful!"

And mentioning tampons and urinary tract infections won't help, it's been many a year before anything has embarrassed me. I have been known to pick up requested items on the way home that would stagger a normal man, and when asked to hold Teres' purse for her while shopping I don't use the standard guy technique of holding it like a shopping bag. I wear it proudly and even do a few twirls...
 
Posted by Evie3217 (Member # 5426) on :
 
Alright....this is my answer to mack's post WAY at the beginning of this thread
quote:
Why is it that the backs of my legs above my knees are so uncooperative 'bout me shaving them?
I think the reason is cuz the hairs lay a diffferent way. I find that if I shave top to bottom, instead of the other way around, that usually works. Of course, then you have to deal with little tiny stubble when ever you sit down.
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
dagnabit, where is that thread about my Nair incident. After that experience I'm not a huge Nair fan. I second CT's advice to shave with the "grain" of the hair. QEFSG also dittos this repeatedly. And contrary to one comment "with the grain" is generally (on all the nekkid females I've seen, and I've seen a lot because I used to be on a swim team) not "UP" as in towards your belly button, but "DOWN" as in towards your knee. Look at your own hair though, and figure out if it changes direction as it gets closer to the skin between your leg joint and crotch. 9 times out of 10 this is where the bumps form because you haven't changed the direction you are shaving. It is more akward to bend your arm to get it into that position but well worth the effort in lack of pain and rash later.

Also Brettly, as far as I know pharmacies don't sell NITROGLYCERIN the explosive except for preventing heart attacks. I suspect you meant ordinary GLYCERINE instead. Also as far as the salicylic acid goes, I have used acne cream with salicylic acid on razor bumps with great sucess, because it reduces inflammation and dries the little infection out.

AJ
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I don't know how much it costs, getting one's bikini area waxed, but it can't be really cheap. In the long term, wouldn't it be cheaper to go to one of the places that does hair removal with a laser? It's far cheaper than electrolysis, and from what I understand after 5 or 6 treatments the hair stops growing back.
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
Noemon, I tried that with one of those laser pointer things, but the hair in my nose just keeps growing. [Grumble]
 
Posted by ladyday (Member # 1069) on :
 
Random thoughts:
I'm totally boggled by the idea of shaving with the grain. When I'm doing my bikini line I'll go with the grain first, then go back against the grain to get nice and smooth. Underarms get shaved every which way. Legs I just go against the grain. Maybe I just have unusually tough hair? I just don't see how you can get anywhere shaving with the grain.

I use dove soap and water because I know I'm not allergic to it.

I'm with the porn star on not shaving every day. Every other day works well for me, but I don't like waiting any longer than that or it takes more strokes, which seems to be the kicker for me. The less strokes with the razor going against the grain, the less bumps, which is why I'll shave with the grain first.

As to why...for me it's just part of grooming and feeling clean.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the asprin solution worked. Another thing to try might be witch hazel. Though I don't know, that might sting.

You know what I really hate? Taking all that time shaving in the shower, then stepping out into the freezing cold bathroom and getting goosebumps.
 
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
I really question why this thread is *supposed* to be restricted to females. It's really about shaving, and we shave too.

I have the same problem with my face, and I think the grain issue is a serious one. The hair on my neck grows out in about 3 different directions, and I get a rash, especially where the grain changes.

I find that a double bladed razor makes the rash much worse. In fact, I started using a straight razor several years ago because it doesn't confine the whiskers and: 1, force them downward and scrub the skin like a wire brush brush, and 2, doesn't do that "lift and cut closer" nonsense that allows the second blade to cut off the tip of every raised pore. It also allows you to shave against the grain for that reason.

I don't recommend the ladies attempting the gymnastics required to use a straight razor in the bikini area, but it works well on the legs (I used to race bicycles) especially when you're shaving hair, not yesterday's stubble. But if you're currently using a double bladed razor, try a single bladed bic.

I've never heard of nitroglycerin oil, but it is curious to note: Salicylic acid and nitroglycerin are both blood thinners. This may prevent blood clotting in the rash, and prevent the rash from being so red and full of little scabs, so even if the surface is irritated, it doesn't look so bad. An astringent (after shave) does the same thing by squeezing the pores shut, and forcing the blood back into the skin.

One other trick: shave with COLD water. This prevents excess blood flow into the skin, and also lifts the hair naturally (goosebumps), so the razor can cut close, the way the double edged razors claim they do, but without the polka-dot rash. Warm water feels good, but it actually gives no benefit.
 
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
Also, aloe vera gel (you can buy it in a bottle, or get a plant and squish it out of the leaves). Not aloe vera lotion, just pure gel from the plant. Keep it in the refrigerator. The stuff is magic.

And in addition to shaving rash, if you burn yourself, put it on a paper towel and use it to cool the burn, and you'll be AMAZED.
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Are you SERIOUS? Anytime I get goosebumps while shaving, know what happens? They get cut OFF. The razor burn is way worse then. In fact, if I'm shaving my legs and I get a chill, I stop until it has completely gone away before shaving anymore.
 
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
Glenn - Thank you for your suggestions. I've tried aloe vera, and for some reason it hasn't solved the ding-dang problem.

The reason I made it a girly thread was because I was talking about the naughty bits, and I was covering my bases. [Smile]

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. I shall implement them promplty but without using a time frame so as not to squick anyone out.

(Chris - considering your stand on porn, it must have been quite the sacrifice. You're such a giver. [Razz] Of course, it was some of the most helpful advice.)
 
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
Are you using a double bladed razor? That's my point.
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
You know I might try suggesting Steve try a single bladed razor too. He's got major grain problems in that there is no grain. He's multi-racial and has the tight curly corkscrews on the top of his head and his beard tries to do the same thing. Gets tons of ingrowns that start growing curlique under the skin and then get infected, VERY GROSS.

I'll mention it to him. We've been experimenting with different products for him for a while, and he's definitely open to sugestion.

AJ
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
Do you gentlemen ever shave with an electric? It's been years since I shaved with a razor. An electric is not quite as close as a blade, but the newer ones do a pretty good job. I occasionally get a rash, but its pretty rare.
 
Posted by Glenn Arnold (Member # 3192) on :
 
Actually I have tried a Norelco (my father's) and I bought a remington microscreen. I equate them to the epilady, I think, since all they did was try to yank the whiskers out by the roots.

The Norelco worked fine for my father, but not for me.
 
Posted by Toni (Member # 5620) on :
 
I bought Dan an electric razor for our anniversary last year. He seemed to think it was pretty groovin'. Sometimes he misses bits, but most of the time it's a fairly close shave.

I'm waiting for mine now. [Smile]
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
So much to respond to...
  1. Storm: SILENCE, BLASPHEMER!
  2. Zan: You are a funny, funny man.
  3. Shaving with cold water? Yikes! The only time I ever get irritation from shaving (apart from annoyance at having to do it in the first place) is when I have to shave with cold water. And I find that single-bladed razors tend to give me more irritation, but that's likely because they don't have a lubricating strip or a rotating head/flexible blade/whatever.
  4. I bought a Norelco on a lark once and used it for a few months. Didn't like it. Now I just keep it around in case a particular one of my friends stays over and forgets his own.
  5. AJ: Sounds like my idea with the facewash might not be a bad idea, then. Cool. (I love validation.)


[ September 05, 2003, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: saxon75 ]
 
Posted by Professor Funk (Member # 5608) on :
 
Why is hair considered so unsightly anyway? That's really a rather racist sentiment our notions of beauty have produced, and my German Jew ancestors protest.
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
Norelco Spectra - 3 heads of pivoting action, can be rinsed off in the sink and can be bought on EBAY for almost half what they charge in the stores.

quote:
Zan: You are a funny, funny man.
Wow, I'm all tingly inside now. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
 
I use an electric, when I remember to shave. I have one of those fancy Braun with the base that cleans it for you. It appeals to the lazy aspect of me. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
I concur with Chris on the gross-out issue. I may not be married, but I've dated enough to be pretty jaded in these areas. You could pretty much talk about anything and it wouldn't bother me.

As to guys shaving the bikini line- swim team. Men have to shave all body hair for swimming- and we have lots of it. So, a lot of guys who've swum are well aware of these issues.
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
I'm scared to use a one-bladed razor. They cut me more than anything does.

added: I use a Mach 3.

[ September 05, 2003, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: PSI Teleport ]
 
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
 
I once used a single-bladed razor at work. I had to because I was working at a hotel and came in unshaven. It was brand new and hurt like a mother. It pretty much ripped every hair out of every pore on my face. My beard bled for about 3 hours. Yeah, not so much in the fun category.
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
I don't get grossed out by very many things at all, but menstruation is certainly not something that'll get me out of a thread. And, frankly, I can't understand in the slightest why any guy would be grossed out by talking about a girl's bikini area
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
I used a Mach III once... My brother was mad at me after that. (I should have cleaned it out better...)
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
Similarly, I once used a Venus when I was staying at Juliette's place and forgot my own razor.
 
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
 
Have we plucked our first subject bare yet?

Ok, ladies: Depo Provera Shots or NuvaRing?
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Depo Depo Depo.

I would never be comfortable with that ring in there.

I used Ortho Evra for like a week. Stupid patch fell off three times.
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Neither - my father always swore by the ole' "keep the nickel between your knees" theory - and you know, I think he might have been right.

Every other method has either caused irritation, discomfort, sickness, and/or not done the job, resulting in pregnancy.

Gee - fancy that! Have sex, get pregnant . . .

Ahh, let's hear it for abstinence!
[The Wave]
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
Hey, guys, have you considered that it might not be about you being squicked out, but that of the women who'd rather not discuss these things in front of men?

[No No]

Why is everything about you? [Roll Eyes]

[Razz]
 
Posted by Boon (Member # 4646) on :
 
quote:
Neither - my father always swore by the ole' "keep the nickel between your knees" theory - and you know, I think he might have been right.

My dad told me the secret to effective birth control was orange juice. Yep, plain orange juice.

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Not before...

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Not after...

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Instead of!
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
quote:
Gee - fancy that! Have sex, get pregnant . . .

Ahh, let's hear it for abstinence!

I don't think my husband will be happy with this.
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
Ahh, well, if he is unhappy enough, he could always opt for a vasectomy. [Wink]
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
When we were dating (like four weeks into it) we were leaving the house to go for a walk when my grandma shouted "Don't forget your aspirin!" I said, "what for?" She told me to keep it between my knees. We were so embarrassed.

Kayla: He would but our insurance only covers my birth control, not his.
 
Posted by KEGE (Member # 424) on :
 
AJ thanks for clearing up that "nitro" glycerine thing because I was thinking that was a little scary! Unless you want to just blast off the hair!

I saw an "expose" (no pun intended) on the laser hair removal thing. It only works on dark hair b/c it's pigment seeking. So people who had tans or fair hair ended up with these horrible burns and scars! (esp. b/c no real oversight of who could perform these procedures). So I'd definitely stay away from lasers for the time being.

Cold water?! [Angst]

[ September 06, 2003, 08:32 AM: Message edited by: KEGE ]
 
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
 
I think that they've improved the technology recently, KEGE. My wife had it done not too long ago, and I remember reading in some of the promotional literature that this had been a problem in the past, but was no longer the case. As you said, though, there's no oversight, so these claims could be false. In any case, my wife was pretty satisfied with it, but her skin wasn't too dark when she had it done, and her hair is brown, so she was a fairly ideal candidate for the procedure.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
Poor Celia. No one wants to talk about her subject. [Cry]
 
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
 
Yeah, that was actually why I ruled out the patch. I just don't trust it to stay in good contact.

Here's the thing. I tried ortho tri for about a year, and it made me crazy. Seriously freaking insane. I was so moody it wasn't funny, and I felt like I was living in someone elses body. I knew that my reactions weren't mine. It was awful, and I stopped. Since then, I'm rather wary of hormone treatments.

My doc says that isn't uncommon for that combination, but others might not have the same effect. So I'm looking at others.

I've kind of ruled out pills all together, as I was never really good at remembering to take it the same time every day. Partly because my schedule is different every day, partly because I'm absentminded.

The shots would be once every 3 months, and they call to remind me. That's nice, and I don't have a problem with needles.

The ring I'd have to remember twice a month, which I don't think I'll have a problem with. It's also about 1/3 the cost, and I'm poor at the moment. I can also take it out any time if I have the same reaction I had with pills.

I can't do that with the shots. I'd just have to wait it out. [Angst]

But I don't know if I can deal with the ick factor of the ring.

Don't you all regret looking in this thread now?
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Yes. o_O
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
I dated a girl years ago that used Norplant. She turned out to be not such a nice person, but I don't think that was because of the Norplant. Do you mind having something inserted under your skin?
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
celia- I really don't think you are going to have better luck with any hormonal form of contraception as far as your moods go. They all do basically the same thing and most of them have very similar ingredients, only the dosages vary.
I've had so much trouble with this that I will be getting my tubes tied soon.
 
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
 
zan, yes. and it has the same issue with cost and removability.

psi, that's what i said to my doctor, and she said what i was taking was the worste and i should try something else befor i write them off completely.

[ September 08, 2003, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: celia60 ]
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
The really unfortunate thing, celia, is this - women's bodies are very delicately balanced and any hormonal adjustments are going to have some sort of effect. It just all depends on what you are willing to tolerate. Double-bag condoms increases the effectiveness and if you use non-lubed you don't have to worry about reacting to the spermicides, etc., unless of course you are allergic to latex in which case you might try some of the lambskin expensive types.

Other alternatives - get trained on the rhythym system. And prayer. [Roll Eyes]

You might also check out naturopaths/homeopaths for "natural" alternatives to contraception.

My only other idea is this - if you don't want to have children, get the tubes tied or get a hysterectomy. However, while this will prevent pregnancy (in most cases - strange things have been known to happen such as embryos emplanting on intestinal walls and then being delivered cesearean [Eek!] ), it doesn't help with the STD and HIV/AIDs factor. [Angst] Which is crucial for young women as we are the fastest rising contractors of these diseases. [Frown]

Hmmm - abstinence sounds so good . . .

The really really really sad part about all this, is that the doctors knew how touchy female systems were when they invented the "pill" - so it was originally designed for men - who would NOT take it - so the manufacturer's marketed it out to women. [Wall Bash]
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
[Eek!] That is news to me...
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Had a great biology teacher in college - she was full of all sorts of nifty stories and bizarre happenings!
 
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
 
Ok, I'm asking as a married woman. As someone who's crappy insurance won't cover a tubal ligation (considers it to be elective surgery--when I have a better job, this is so happening). As someone who sat through a very thorough sex ed. class and knows about IUD's, Norplant, condoms, rhythm method, the sponge, the ton of options that were available 9 years ago. Someone who is more concerned with catching HIV from work than from her sex life.

I know that hormone therapy will have some effect on my balance. From my previous experience, I know about how much imbalance I find acceptable.

I've gone over the literature for I don't even know how many options and narrowed it down to these 2.

Does anyone have experience or insite that might help me choose between them?
 
Posted by Theca (Member # 1629) on :
 
Your options being depo or the ring?

I'd suggest the nuvaring first. Less side effects. The depo can be great but lots do have side effects then you are stuck with it for three months. If you don't like the ring, just throw it out early and try the depo after all.
 


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