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Posted by qsysue (Member # 5229) on :
 
Love will tear us apart. Again.
 

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Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
 
?
 

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Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
 
Or to expand... I hope you are ok, but it seems as though you are not. Tell us more?
 

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Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
<3


 

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Posted by qsysue (Member # 5229) on :
 
*sigh*

Just a song. Carry on.
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Actually, I believe Anaximander said it was Strife that caused separation in nature, and Love that caused attraction amongst things.

Of course, Mr. Greeky-poo's been dead for nigh on 2500 years now, so what does he know anyway!

-Bok

EDIT: Dang, it was Empedocles.

[ September 11, 2003, 04:43 PM: Message edited by: Bokonon ]
 

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Posted by peterh (Member # 5208) on :
 
Joy Division (the precursor to New Order)

One of my all time favorite songs by the way...
 

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Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
 
Oh good.
 

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Posted by qsysue (Member # 5229) on :
 
Phew. I was going to have to give up on Hatrack permanently if no one recognized it.

And she turned to me and took me by the hand
And said "I've lost control again"
 

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Posted by peterh (Member # 5208) on :
 
I have it at home, but I'm downloading it right now to listen to at work...

I haven't listened to it for a while. Thanks...
 

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Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
Why is the bedroom so cold?
 

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Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
Why is the bedroom so cold? Welcome to married life.
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
So wait, this wasn't a thread analyzing the philosophy of a presocratic thinker?

Darn.

* Scampers off to put his book on Parmenides away *

-Bok
 

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Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
I've been waiting for a guide to come
and take me by the hand...

I've got the spirit, but lose the feeling.
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Zal,

13th Century belief of the Wampanoag Tribe?

Right?

Right???

-Bok
 

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Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
Nope.

A little-known portion of _The Supersensual Life_ by Jakob Boehme.

The Wampanoag belief is: I choose the spirit, then comes the feeling.
 

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Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
 
Threads like this are why I love hatrack.
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Zal:

Ah, you may be right on that... But upon further research, I think your second sentence in the previous post was actually a reflection of the fellowship of The Righteous Brothers, ca. 1965.

-Bok
 

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Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
Bok-

You are absolutely correct.

But I should also add that the Rightous Brothers are notorious plagiarists -- not only from the American blues tradition (I mean what rock'n'roll artist didn't steal from the blues), but, for example, they lifted the lyrics "In the dark, in the sun/ Like the tide at its ebb /
I'm at peace in the web of your arms" directly from a 17th century Dobrogean "doina" (a type of Romanina folk song). My guess is that they were exposed to the source material [a book of doine compiled in 1804 by Fratele (Brother) Nicu Grigorescu] by their friend, the great Moldovan klezmer musician Irwin Barras.

I'm not saying that it's not right to borrow from traditional sources, but I do object to the way the rest of the lyrics were changed to oversentmentalize the song -- erasing the stark resignation of the original lyric.
 

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Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 


I completely concur.

-Bok
 

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Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 
Bok-

Good. Concur. Capitulate. It's all the same to me.

NOTE: I do bow to your knowledge of the Greeks.

<----unschooled in the classics.

And: I'm not sure why the angst smiley, but it's entirely appropriate for a thread on Joy Division.

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q --

Don't turn away, in silence.
 

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Posted by odouls268 (Member # 2145) on :
 
He said I was born of an alien race, born with a hatchet and a juggalo face.
 

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Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
 

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He said I was born of an alien race, born with a hatchet and a juggalo face.

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