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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
Ok here is an attempt to keep a serious thread on top.

Post all serious issues here and we can debate them on one thread.


 

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Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Do I wear my white socks with sky blue on them or my white socks with pink on them?
 

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Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
Where do babies come from?
 

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Posted by NooB (Member # 5797) on :
 
Trolls
 

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Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
 
Ah Nick. This is a great topic for the serious thread.
 

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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
Ok i'll start

back when ARNOLD first showed an interest in american politics (sometime around the time he married a kennedy) i said it was a shame that he could never be president even if he wanted to or was qualified.

I dont see any harm in changing our ways. If a foreign born citizen wants to run for president they should be allowed to.

We already have the policy that a person can change his place of residence and run for office in a new state.

Are we shooting ourselves in the foot by not letting potential beneficial citizens of foreign birth not be our nations leaders?

I think the key word we need to remember is citizen. Hell they had to work harder than anyone of us who was born here to become one.
They appreciate what we have and how we work.
They usually know ten times what we know about The United States. In order to become citizens they have to pass a test half of us natural born citizens would fail miserably.


 

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Posted by Nagaer (Member # 5796) on :
 
Wait, are you being serious? If you are, I'm offended.
 

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Posted by Mr.Funny (Member # 4467) on :
 
Dobies are cool... I am fighting the urge to dobie this thread right now.
 

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Posted by ana kata (Member # 5666) on :
 
If you behave and quit starting so many dobies and instead only post things that are interesting and intelligent and funny then you will get invited to the secret uber-hatrack board where only the truly cool people post.
 

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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
I dont p[ost dobie's yet i have not been invited.

any way herer was a serious thread and comment with no repjy rebuttal or anything what gives?


 

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Posted by ana kata (Member # 5666) on :
 
Yebor, you haven't been invited yet? I was hoping you'd invite me!
 

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Posted by Obrom (Member # 5793) on :
 

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I dont see any harm in changing our ways. If a foreign born citizen wants to run for president they should be allowed to.

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Yebor, personally I have no problem with banning foreign-born citizens from being president. Very few countries in history have ever voluntarily accepted foreign-born leaders; that's just the way people think, we want our leaders to be "one of us."

Since it is written into the constitution, it would take an amendment to change the natural-born citizen requirement. Amending the constitution is a long, drawn-out, expensive and contentious process and this issue would never get out of the starting gate. Personally, I think there are much broader and more meaningful political and social issues that deserve an amendment.
Anyway, its very unlikely anyone could ever get elected president if they were not American born.
Morbo
 

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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
So because it is too hard and too long, we should shoot ourself in the foot and dny potentially great leadership the right to improve and partake in part ofour american political process?
They became citizens by busting their butts.
But they have less right than the ones who never had to do anything.
I woudn't want to take a little time get that passed instead of using part of the congressional session to decide how much their raises should be. IM sure they spend way to much time on stupid issues as it is.

As far the phobia of unnatural (what a joke unnatural) citizens thats just plain stupid.
Its called predjudice and against the law as far as i can tell. Where is the NAACP when we need them.


 

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Posted by Robespierre (Member # 5779) on :
 

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Its called predjudice and against the law as far as i can tell. Where is the NAACP when we need them.

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It is NOT against the law to vote against someone because they are a foreigner. You can vote for whatever reason you like, no matter how ill-concieved it is.

As for NAACP, they are likely busy hitting up big business for their protection money. That takes a lot of time.
 

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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
I did not say voting for who you wanted was predujudice, I said discriminating against people wo were foriegn born was predjudice.


 

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Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
 
After some research, I found out that here, in Brazil, someone must be born here in order to run for President too. It makes sense to me. Call it prejudice, if you like, but I guess people would stir a lot if there was otherwise.
 

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Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Never mind voting and electoral processes.

My serious question is this:

Is it okay to have sharp cheddar cheese with a blush wine, or is that totally plebian?
 

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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
definately plebotic


 

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Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 
Ethics Gradient dubbed that smilie you keep posting, Robey, as the Ralphie stripping smilie.

I take issue with you using it so prolifically.
 

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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
well ralphie my sweet, I have used it from the time I saw it as y trademark Hats off to ya.

A way to show my true southern character her in the forum.


 

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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
Ya know what the striping ralphie also gives it new meaning to me. I kinda like that thought.

Now it will have a double inuendo when i use it.

Hey look here is ralphie on stage



and here is the audience



here is the evil me enjoying what i see



here is the good me




and here is what ralphie thinks i should be doing right now.




 

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Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I think we should work on electing someone who is either female or has a last name ending in a vowel before we open it up to foreign born folks.

The vowel thing was pointed out by my Arabic Prof. Though I guess he wasn't counting Monroe. He was bitter about Cuomo, I think.
 

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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
I think this is america and everyone should have a free shot at it as long as they are a citizen.
Male
Female
Black
White
Arabic
Robey
Name ending in a vowel
aeiou and sometimes y


 

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Posted by Robespierre (Member # 5779) on :
 

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The vowel thing was pointed out by my Arabic Prof. Though I guess he wasn't counting Monroe.

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Nor was he counting Kennedy or Fillmore.
 

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Posted by Rhaegar The Fool (Member # 5811) on :
 
There is no call for being serious here yebor1. It greatly offends me that you do so.

-Rhaegar The Fool
 

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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
well how many presidents have had a first name thast ended with a vowel maybe thats what he meant

Or maybe he was just lookinf for a arabic vowel
 

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Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
 

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and here is what ralphie thinks i should be doing right now.

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Werd.
 

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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
have you paid attention to have my post in this forum cant i have one place where i can be serious with a small humorous rotew once in a while just top let off some of this steam thawt has been building up inside of me.


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Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
do i know ya or do i know ya gerl



[ November 07, 2003, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: Yebor1 ]
 

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Posted by Scythrop (Member # 5731) on :
 

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Very few countries in history have ever voluntarily accepted foreign-born leaders; that's just the way people think, we want our leaders to be "one of us."

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It occurs to me that here in Oz, officially, at least, out head of state is in fact the queen of England, and that not only have we accepted it, but the nation ratified it at referrendum last time there was a vote on the issue.

It also occurs to me that her full title; Elizabeth Regina, ends in a vowel.

Other foreign born leaders that spring readily to mind would be Napoleon Bonaparte (Another vowl-er) and Hitler (Not a vowel, though.)

All things condsidered, I think these are probably compelling arguments for keeping the presidency "in da house"...


 

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Posted by Destructicus (Member # 5894) on :
 

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well how many presidents have had a first name thast ended with a vowel maybe thats what he meant

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Or maybe he was just lookinf for a arabic vowel

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Or maybe he just didn't know what he was talking about. Yet more evidence as to why you should never trust someone to be knowledgeable based solely on their possession of a piece of paper (given to them by someone else who probably has a similar scrap of parchment) that says they are.

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Is it okay to have sharp cheddar cheese with a blush wine, or is that totally plebian?

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Oh, absolutely! But only if you also have Triscuit!


 

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Posted by Starla* (Member # 5835) on :
 
Ah, and welcome, Destructic us
 

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