RED EFFING SOX!!!!
Posted by Rappin' Ronnie Reagan (Member # 5626) on :
what mack said.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Red (massive sigh of relief) Sox
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
whatEVer.
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
Neither, Marlins. If I had to choose, Sox.
Go Marlins!!! Posted by Kasie H (Member # 2120) on :
Red Sox!!
Yankees SUCK. *looks around and growls*
Personally, I'm a pure baseball fan. However, I hang out with a very....interesting....and very political crowd. I was at a fundraiser tonight for Environment 2004 and I was talking with a few of my friends who where there with me, one of whom follows baseball not at all. Our conversation went something like this:
Me: "C'mon, Ari, the Red Sox haven't won in years. The Yankees....ugh. If you're not from New York, you CAN'T be a Yankees fan."
Him: "But....here's what I don't get about baseball. Why is it the *World* Series? It's not actually the world that plays in it, it's the US and two teams from Canada, one of which is bankrupt!"
Me: "Yeah, well, knowing you, Mr. Democrat, you should root against the Yankees, because they embody in a sports team everything that is wrong with corporate America..."
Anyhow. Go Sox! Go Cubs!
Posted by Cavalier (Member # 3918) on :
RED SOX!
*on a side note: I'd also like it if someone tore out McCarver's (fox announcer) biased yankee heart and make him choke on it. They do the most awful job of calling a game I've seen in a while.
Posted by Leonide (Member # 4157) on :
From Strider and I:
YANKEES!!!!!!!!
they will triumph!!
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
I gotta say Red Sox. I don't care about baseball, but the Sox are DUE.
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
Yes.
DUE to choke again!!
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Mega, Hey, nice throw from center field to third. Bwahahahahaha...
My 7 year-old son tonight:
"Hey Dad, I figured it out! When we believe in the Red Sox, they lose. When we don't believe in the Red Sox, they win!" (so this is how Red Sox fan starts out. I am witnessing a phenomenon passing unto another generation. And it is, well, a phenomenon.)
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
We're just adding to the drama . . . setting you up for when you finally lose tomorrow. It'll hurt you more for having come so close.
<--- baseball fascist
Posted by Bugger #1 (Member # 5760) on :
How can anyone really like the Yankees, I mean, that's like rooting for Sauron to win, or Emperor Palpatine to win, or well you get the idea.
It's like rooting for the Lakers, or rooting for the Dallas Cowboys.
HOW CAN YOU BE A YANKEE FAN AND LIVE WITH YOURSELF?
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
How can you want the Red Sox to win?
It's like being a David Spade fan. It's like wishing your dad was more like Judge Reinhold's character in The Santa Claus. It's like owning the entire run of Thirtysomething--on Beta. It's like wishing Return of the Jedi had a few more of those exciting Ewok scenes. It's like having nothing but Barry Manilow CDs on your CD changer.
HOW CAN RED SOX FANS KEEP FROM SHOOTING THEMSELVES?
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
You know Sox fans, Icarus is right. I want Boston to win, but come one look at their history.
Go Marlins!!! Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
Oh, and if the Sox do beat the Yankees how bad is it going to be when they lose to the Fish in 7? At home?
[ October 15, 2003, 10:42 PM: Message edited by: newfoundlogic ]
Posted by jehovoid (Member # 2014) on :
Either way, I feel sorry for the Sox (I doubt either team can beat the Marlins). But, because I am my father's son, I will be rooting for the Yankees. Should be an exciting game.
Posted by Paul Goldner (Member # 1910) on :
Umm, you did notice what happened to the marlins when they played the sox earlier this year right?
10 runs before first out<-----New major league record.
14 runs in first inning<---New major league record.
Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
Whichever team beats the Marlins. Preferably the Sox, but if it takes the Yankees, so be it.
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Go Canadians!
Ok, so they're a hockey team and the regular season just started. But I can't bring myself to cheer for a game as boring as baseball, but I wanted to get in on all the cheering action Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Red Sox...to AVENGE the CUBS!! How could they have lost 3 in a row? Why? Why?
::goes off and cries some more::
Oh, and I hate the Yankees.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
As for the Yanks and Sox. There were some stats being thrown around the other night, and they said that the two teams were dead even at Fenway in the past( ? ) years. It was something like 450 to 451: even, until the Yanks won the other night.
Posted by Paercival (Member # 1408) on :
Ya, right now, the Red Sox and yankees are in a dead heat against each other over the past hundred years or so. If the sox win tonite, the seasons series will be 13-13. winner takes advantage in 100 year series, and moves on to world series.
Its called the world series because when baseball started, the US was the only country playing it. Why change its name? All the best players from the other countries come here to play. It is the world stage for baseball.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I thought it was interesting that they were so close when they played each other, but the Sox always seem to lose in the end. Hopefully, not tonight.
I heard a really interesting thing on NPR today about the Cubs and their fans. Some guy, who died in 1979, was quoted as saying, besically, that the Cubs lose, and that is more real. They do their heroics, and save day after day, but lose in the end. Like real life, he said.
It really would be an odd thing for the Sox to win. I hope it happens, but it will be weird if they do.
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
Bambino!
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
Watch the rating plummet now that the Yankees and Marlins are in the World Series.
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
Oh come on, who doesn't want to watch David beat Goliath?
Go Marlins!!! Posted by El Babalao (Member # 5817) on :
This is the happiest they've looked in years . . . probably because it was so hard.
So, you think they'll fire Torre now?
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
They still have to win the World Series before Torre's job is safe so when the Marlins beat 'em in game 7 he'll have to find a new job.
Go Marlins!!! Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
How can anyone be an effing Yankees fan, that's like rooting for the Death Star.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
I'm from NY, thats how.
Posted by sarfa (Member # 579) on :
you have the Mets, the Yankees aren't the only option. There's no challenge in rooting for them, no sense of accomplishment. You might as wel just cheer every time the sun comes up.
[ October 17, 2003, 03:50 AM: Message edited by: sarfa ]
Posted by Tzadik (Member # 5825) on :
Neither one, Astros!!! Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
The Mets are my favorite team. The two aren't even in the same league though, so its not hard to route for both.
The Yankees have so much history and legacy its not even funny. They are premiere team in all of sports. We're talking a century of domination.
Everyone says they hate them, but without them I wonder if baseball would even still be played professionally.
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
It's easy to route for both. Take the 7 train to Shea and take the 4 to Yankee Stadium.
But you're not a real New Yorker if you root for both.
Then again, "real New Yorkers" are still whining about California stealing the Giants and Dodgers.
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
Thank you Professor NobodyAskedForYourOpinion.
I am a true New Yorker, but I admit that I'm not a true baseball fan.
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
"Rooting for the Red Sox is like rooting for cancer." -Dan Sileo, radio commentator.
I've been a Yankees fan since the 70s, when I was a kid. I lived through the whole 1980s, when they often sucked, or were simply not quite good enough to make the post-season. I lived through having my hopes raised and dashed over and over again with Billy-Ball, until he passed away and I had to give up any hope of Steinbrenner hiring him and then staying the hell out of the way. I lived through Lou Pinella's chicanery to get him fired the last time, and then his managing the frikkin Cincinnati Reds to the championship. So if you come in here and say that anybody who roots for the Yankees is some kind of fair-weather winning-team bandwagon jumper, I'd say you must be too young to know what the heck you're talking about.
And if you think the Yankees should lose because it's someone else's turn, or that the Yankees shouldn't spend so much money, then you've got a twisted sense of what fair play is. This seems to be an epidemic these days. Fair play is everyone plays by the rules and tries their hardest. It's not unfair that OSC gets his books published and sells millions of copies while I do not. He's very talented, he's worked hard, and he's taken the risks. If I want what he has, it's up to me to go get it. If the Red Sox or Cubbies want to win a championship, they need to whine less and go out and win it. Both teams had their chances, and both teams lost to teams that wanted it more. When you're five or six outs away from losing it and you suddenly find offense when you've had none all night, that's because when the chips fell, you wanted it more.
Is it unfair that New York has more money because they're in a bigger market? Then change the rules. Share profits like the NFL does. But until and unless that happens, should the Yankees voluntarily pay less? Should they let some good players go out of a sense of "fairness"? Freaking absurd. That's the have-nots wanting to peck and take from the haves what they can't earn on their own. (And this year's Marlins are living proof that you don't need to buy a World Series trip: that you can get there by developing most or your own talent, and having somewhat less talented guys who just want it more and who never give up.)
Kayla commented in another thread on how Yankee fans had a similar outlook to conservatives. I am neither socially nor fiscally conservative; I am just a lifelong Yankees fan. But, my goodness, people carrying on about how unfair it is that the Yankees won't stop doing what it takes to win and get out of everyone else's way . . . what a very cheesy stereotype of liberalism you're acting out!
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Carry on, now!
Oh, and, by the way, I don't hate the Mets. They beat the Red Sox in '86, and that has to count for something. They're on a list of teams that I'm OK with winning it all if the Yankees can't.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Here's the deal:
In the end, the only appeal of baseball is good stories. It's not like people really enjoy the SPORT anymore, for the most part.
Yankee wins are, quite frankly, dull stories; they're sitcoms.
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
How about the stories of the cursed teams that came so close this year?
How about the story of the upstart young team with the Very Old Manager?
How about the story of the sociopath owner who alienates the heck out of his coaches and managers as they try to win him a championship?
How about the story of the aging stars trying to hold of the younger and faster guys?
How about the story of the team Selig wanted to contract almost winning it all? Or the story of a town burned by Wayne Huizenga learning/daring to fall in love with their team again?
The dynasty versus the upstarts . . . there are still a few good stories left for you this year.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
I largely agree with the rant, but the bit about "wanting it more" is just self-congratulatory BS. Unless you can read into the hearts of men or something.
I don't want the Sox to be given anything, heck, we've been given a lot (I believe the Red Sox are the winningest team of the past 20 years!). But you have to admit the more frequent a team wins (any team) ba championship the less interesting it is to everyone but the fans of the champion team.
The sox will come back next year with better pitching, and with the Yanks losing at Clemens, and possible Clemens, Wells, and Pettite, I figure the Red Sox have a great chance to take it all.
-Bok
PS- Elizabeth, I offer my condolences to your 6-year-old; I welcome him into Red Sox Nation, on this, his "first communion." Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
The problem, Icky, is that none of those stories are particularly INTERESTING.
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
Yes and no, Bok. Both the Yankees and the Marlins won when their backs were against the wall, and both the Sox and the Cubs lost when victory was in sight . . . in hand, even.
Now Chicago fans are hounding some poor fan instead of looking at their team's utter collapse, and Boston fans are calling for their manager's head despite his getting them to the ALCS, because he showed loyalty to their most talented pitcher. (Not that the Yankees are any better off in this regard . . . I still think there is a good chance that Torre will not return. We know that Zimmer won't. Everybody thinks Torre might still get fired if he loses--I think he might quit if he wins. The ultimate "stick it" gesture.)
And you're probably right about this being a last hurrah for the Yankees before some serious rebuilding begins.
The Marlins, however look like they'll be around for a while. So they should let New York win it; they can win it next year.
It would only be fair.
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
Perhaps they are not interesting to midwest types congratulating themselves for not living in a big city or on the east coast (after all, how much of your digruntlement is rooted in your dislike for Florida and New York, more than in your feelings about the teams?) but I think they are interesting stories for most baseball fans.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Except you're selectively ignoring the A's-Sox ALDS this year, or the past 2 playoffs for the Yankees...
Little's moves have been fairly maddening all year, actually. He isn't a great field manager, though he apparently is hands-off enough to keep the players happy, which is something. Last night was a great example.. I am not upset bringing Pedro out,a although he showed signs of fatigue in the 7th, and even when Grady let Pedro stay in when he went to the mound, that was fine too. However, just about ANY ML manager would have taken out any pitcher after the Matsui hit. You had the reliever ready, and the general rule is that you never let your starter pitch so that they can lose the game in the late innings (Posada represented the go-ahead run).
That would be my major gripe last night. And it is not the first time Grady has done something like that in a game.
Oh, don't worry, the Yanks are much better than the Marlins, they ought to win, with home field advantage and all that.
-Bok
Posted by John Van Pelt (Member # 5767) on :
At midnight last night, the instant that homer left the park, I shut off the TV and rolled over in my bed, in my darkened room. The casement window was slightly ajar; as I started to doze, I heard a distant cacophony reverberating through the streets of Boston - mostly young inebriated males (I judged) screaming in mortal pain.
My last waking thought (before morning - hush ) was that in that instant, 6 million people became Marlins fans.
I know, it's not profound. But these mass social phenomena do fascinate me.
[ October 17, 2003, 11:17 AM: Message edited by: John Van Pelt ]
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Actually, Tom has a point, and his potential disdain for the East Coast is irrelevant. The much bally-hooed "Subway Series" was one of the lower rated Series in the national TV era, I believe. And that actually was kind of a neat story.
-Bok
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
Based on Tom's point (about teams that win it all the time), why would that be? The Mets haven't won very many times.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
It's not really about how often they win, Icky. It's about how interesting a team they are. The Yankees are boring. The Mets are only slightly less boring. Consequently, a Yankees-Mets game is extremely boring, moderated only by the mild interest of having two teams from the same city involved.
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
And you're absolutely right about the Yankees the last two years . . . they haven't gone out and won it, because they've expected it to be handed to them, and it wasn't. I would say that the Diamondbacks wanted it more. I'm not ignoring this. I would say the Yankees want it more now than they did two years ago, or last year, because they see that a big payroll doesn't guarantee anything, and because they know they are nearing the end of their run--Giambi only added a year or two.
And of course, I'm not saying that wanting it is all it takes. But it's pretty much granted that the Yankees and Red Sox both had heaps of talent, and were about equally good.
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
Why are the Yankees boring? Because they don't produce a lot of offense this year? I can buy that. Marlins games are way more exciting.
What else, though (besides the fact that they win a lot) would lead you to feel that way?
When you say boring, are you referring to the way they play right now, this year? Or are you referring to long-term characteristics? Would you consider the Marlins boring? Because I would characterize their play as very thrilling. Would you say they are boring because they don't have the long and storied history? Whereas the Yankees are boring because they have too much long and storied history?
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
Unless you're a Marlins fan its hard to notice it but Jack McKeon is the dumbest manager on the face of the earth. All these little stupid moves that make no sense and none of them turn out well. Its incredibly frustrating. What's even more frustrating is that the Marlins are the best team in the league because of him. It just bogles the mind. Oh well, as long as he keeps on winning games I'll have to put up with him.
Go Marlins!!! Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
I'm not primarily a Marlins fan, so what moves are you talking about?
The only thing I've read about him is how he emphasizes that the players should be enjoying themselves and not be so grim all the time.
[ October 17, 2003, 11:57 AM: Message edited by: Megachirops ]
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
Actual moves, his timing makes no sense. For example he take Dontrell Willis out in the first game in the last series against the Phillies after Willis starts dominating. His timing in pitching or walking Bonds generally made no sense. There are just a thousand little things that he does and yet McKeon. How is he so good and so bad at once?
Go Marlins!!! Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
But see, you can apply that rationale however you want, Ic. You can just claim every winning team always wanted it more, and no one can disagree, on face value, because, well, they won. But it is rare that you see two teams so differently motivated as to be able to tell the difference by their play (although it occassionally happens, but not in any team championship game/series that I have seen).
How do you know that the Red SOx didn't want it MORE, but as a result, they tightened up, due to the extra desire to win?
I still believe that "wanting it more" almost never happens at the professional level, and even less frequently at the championship level, at least to the point that it affects the actual game.
It's just a way to be a sore winner without looking like it: "Not only did our team win, but your team just cared less, and so it was inevitable that our team won."
I mean, unless you can prove that certain actions by either team last night were better explained by "lack of will" as opposed to fatigue, strategic mistake, or bad luck, your claim is meaningless.
I mean, I think anyone watching this series could see that both teams wanted this more than anything.
-Bok
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
I think teams like the Red Sox and Cubs are so caught up in curses that they convince themselves they have one and play like it.
Posted by Megachirops (Member # 4325) on :
Good points. I retract my statements about the Sox and the Cubs. Maybe they just choked.
And I apologize for being a sore winner. Some.
However, I think the statement does have some applicability. I often see teams not play to their full potential, and not playing like they want it enough. I see teams that appear to be unmotivated. It often happens to the terribly successful teams . . . they start to become blasé about their success. I have seen this with the Yankees recently, and with the Hurricanes as well. The Hurricanes are also, quite simply, not as good a team as they have been recently, but almost losing to West Virginia was a sign to me that they were unmotivated. West Virginia, on the other hand, was clearly very motivated. Beating UM meant more to them than beating UWV meant to the 'Canes. Some teams either become accustomed to success, or they despair of achieving it, and I think sometimes you can make the judgment that the drive is missing.
The Marlins, on the other hand, demonstrate an unwillingness to give up. Some teams do seem to give up under much less hardship.
And I don't think the statement can be applied to all teams that win. Some teams that win simply have an overwhelming amount of talent. I don't see most of the Yankees wins of the 90s as being attributable to wanting it more, but to their collected talent. That's one reason I'm finding this playoff run so exciting. The talent is aging, but they're rediscovering the drive they had when this run began. For the first time, they don't feel like they'll probably be back next year. The '85 Chicago Bears didn't necessarily want it more than the Patriots. They were more talented. The '01 Patriots, on the other hand, were less talented than the Rams. Did they win because they wanted it more, or because their coach outcouched the Rams? A little of both, maybe.
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
I don't think the UM-baseball playoffs is an applicable analogy. UM has ten harder games on their schedule than West Virginia. You just can't be motivated by such a game. There's no reason on the other hand that all eight baseball playoff teams shouldn't be motivated to their fullest.
Its also possible that the worse team will win just because upsets happen. One team plays better for no other reason than the game was played on a Sunday as opposed to a Saturday.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
PS- Elizabeth, I offer my condolences to your 6-year-old; I welcome him into Red Sox Nation,on this, his "first communion."
Thank you, Bok! He is certainly one of the group now. (did I say he was 6? Eeek, he would kill me. He is 7)
If anyone would like to join, my husband is starting a "Curse Fan Club." Members of the club want the Curse to continue to keep things intresting for eternity. Basically, you just root to "almost win." It adds years to the life of your heart.
[ October 17, 2003, 06:25 PM: Message edited by: Elizabeth ]
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I grew up a Yanks fan, and married into the Red Sox world. Over the years, I was worn down by the abundance of pure hope and pure despair.
I think the Yankees fans are like the Sox fans in this. They have just not had the despair to test their hope on. I truly believe, though, that if the Yanks sucked wind at the end of important series' as many times as the Sox have, the fans would still be as rabid.
It makes me want to formally interview my grandmother, who was a Yanks fan before the city had skyscrapers. She watched the buildings being built, and she watched two of them come down.
I know I am getting off topic now, but is there any age group in history that has lived through such monumental changes as the WW2 generation?
Posted by plaid (Member # 2393) on :
For anyone who hasn't already guessed: the truth is revealed -- God isn't a Red Sox fan!
quote:Truth is, Rivera is one of the few athletes you can hear praising the Lord for every save and believe in his sincerity. He has talked of becoming a minister. He has built a church in his native Panama.
When Rivera broke down on the mound as his teammates mobbed Aaron Boone at the plate, he wasn't engaging in any self-hug for the cameras. Rivera was surrendering to the emotions inspired by his faith, collapsing before Lee Mazzilli and Willie Randolph could pull him to his feet.
"It was the Lord," Rivera said of his inspiration. "The curse, I don't know about that stuff.....I don't believe in ghosts. I believe in the Lord.
"I had a big conversation with the man and he came through. That's why I was happy and I was thankful....I didn't even think. I just went to the mound and hugged the mound."
Rivera allowed that his conversation with "the man" wasn't a one-way street. He said "the man" told him, "We're going to win this game." No, the closer added, "he's not a Red Sox fan."
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Thank you, Plaid. That answers a lot of questions.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Even God is on their payroll.
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
How much of the $150 millions does He take up?
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
My 90 year old Yankee-loving grandmother was told by the director of the assisted living place yesterday(who had just found out she was a Yanks fan) that she was raising her rent 25 percent. Then, the food services director said she could expect poison in her breakfast. She has had various other threats from octogenarians and nonogenarians alike, but she is still sticking to her guns.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Yes, Elizabeth, but your grandmother, of all people, would know that those threats have no teeth!
-Bok
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
Bad Red Sox fans. Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
Ha ha. True, Bok. I guess that means she is just sticking to her GUMS, then.(agist joke at the expense of my grandmother, who still has all her teeth)
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Sign at the Wild Rover (Irish pub) last night:
Yankees Fans Pay Double.
At the North Garden Lounge, the World Series was turned OFF. Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
Talk about sore losers. Marlins fans would just ignore the World Series, we wouldn't turn it off.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
--I--
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
mack, don't worry, nfl is just doing a reverse jinx of his team: saying he wants the Marlins to win, when he REALLY wants them to lose.
After all, how could nfl bear the great firesale if they win... Right nfl? I think Dontrelle would look quite nice in a Red Sox uniform next year
-Bok
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
At least we made it this far unlike some unnamed team who will never win a World Series if they exist for another 300 years.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
we don't really want to won the World Series, Newfound. It is much more spectacular to lose in such a heroic way. Kind of like the Spartans at the Battle of Thermopylae. The Persians won, but the Spartans stay in the heart.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
OK, here is a little gift for ICARUS, who had to rename himself out of fear of Red Sox fans' retribution, apparently.
This is a little email interchange I had with an old and dear friend, a Yanks fan from birth.
Subject: So Sad For You (sent the night the Sox tied the series)
Hey, real nice throw from Hideki, eh? I loved how the ball bounced RIGHT out of the paahk.
We will see you tomorrow as you cry in your living room.
Sincerely,
Some Red Sox Fans from the North
His Reply (sent to me Sunday morning) Just opened your email. Must have seemed a lot more clever when you wrote it than now. 1918.
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