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Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
With the board being in such gentle harmony as of late, I think some of us need to release a bit of angry debate before, God forbid, somebody explodes over some petty issue.

Using Dave Barry's guidelines, I'd like to raise the issue of Tibetan drinking water.

As I see it, monks are to blame for the recent deterioration of potable sources. While I don't think they should be forced to move from the mountains, per se, I think more precautions should be taken to keep their waste from affecting those downstream, i.e. everyone.

Perhaps we should require them to use porta-potties and make them cover the expenses of having them airlifted out for dumping.

[ November 18, 2003, 01:38 PM: Message edited by: Frisco ]
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I hate to digress, but with I clicked on that link, "nothing" is what came up.
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
Yeah, it doesn't work, try the link again Frisco!!

And for the time being, um... Monks don't drink. [Dont Know] [Confused] [Dont Know] Yeah, I have no idea what I'm talking about, that was just a random comment until you fix the link!
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Monks DO drink. I have evidence.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Weren't the monks there FIRST? If someone who came later is having a problem, let them fix it.
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Didn't monks invent beer?
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
quote:
Dom Perignon is the prestige cuvée of the giant Moët et Chandon Champagne house. It is named after the famous monk, who was the most important early influence in the development of Champagne into the sparkling wine we know today. It was not the first Champagne to use his name, as early in the last century small proprietaire-recoltants (farmer-growers) at Hautvillers, employed it for their wine. Unfortunately for them they did not register the name, Dom Perignon, as a trademark.

http://www.wineontheweb.com/dom_perignon/dom_perignon.html

[Wink]
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
Ack, I like this one better.

quote:
Dom Pérignon (1639-1715) was a Bénédictin monk born in France. Dom Perignon, known for his brilliant mind, becomes for 47 years, Prosecutor and Administrator of the Cellars of the abbey of Hautvilliers near Reims. At that period, Reims was the town of the sacrament of the kings of France and the wine produced here was famous for mass celebration. Dom Pérignon was a wine expert. May be because he was blind, he was endowed with an outstanding sense of smell and palate. He was able to recognize which grapes came from which vineyards. He had the brilliant idea to assemble the wines between them in such a way that qualities of the ones are added to those of the others. Dom Pérignon knew of the particular characteristic of the white wine of Aÿ, the wine of Champagne. It became effervescent with a second, short-lived fermentation. It still contained some yeasts which remained dormant in cold weather. Under the influence of the warmth of spring, when the sap begins to work in the vine, the yeasts wake and proliferate. Dom Pérignon sought to induce this second, accidental fermentation of the wine of Champagne at a given time, regulate it and keep its effervescence in the wine. Having understood that the pressure was due to the carbon dioxide, he decided to use bottle made of thicker glass and better corks secure with a wire. When he died at the beginning of the XVIII century, Champagne wines were favorite at the King's court. Louis XVI and especially Madam de Pompadour will brag for the Champagne as we know it today. Today, Moet et Chandon, the company who bought in 1794 the Hautvillers' monastery, gave the name of Dom Perignon to their very best cuvée.
http://www.bacchuscellars.com/domperignonhistory.htm
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
I love Kayla. [Smile]
 
Posted by Morbo (Member # 5309) on :
 
I always liked Pérignon's famous quote when he first tasted champagne:
quote:
Legend has it that he [Pérignon] said, upon his discovery, “Come quickly, brothers, I am tasting the stars!”
http://www.attachemag.com/archives/01-03/informed/infos1.htm
http://alibi.com/alibi/1999-12-30/cocktail.html
 
Posted by Julie (Member # 5580) on :
 
There isn't enough argument here, and what argument there is certainly isn't about nothing! You're all wrong, and I'm right! I win!
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
Y'wanna take this outside, honey? *looks menacing*

I think Julie loses. Automatically. [Wink]
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
Man, that sucks. I was hoping to wake up into a good, frothy argument.

Well, I fixed it.

And all you people defending monks on the principles of alcohol, viv a vis, are just comparing apples to oranges. Losers.
 
Posted by Kayla (Member # 2403) on :
 
That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say.
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
Oh yeah? Well, if it does, it's only because Tibetan monks are killing regular Tibetan citizens at almost the same rate that Hitler was exterminating the Mexicans in the War of 1812.

25,403 deaths so far can be indirectly linked with drinking contaminated water from the bases of mountains which house monasteries.

That's .5% of the population!

I think maybe they think Allah is commanding them to control the population.

What can we do?
 
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
 
I'm organizing a campaign to take over the stills as we speak.

[ November 17, 2003, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: katharina ]
 
Posted by beatnix19 (Member # 5836) on :
 
to claify: are the monks to blame because they do their business and them dump the remains into the rivers. And as we all know s--- travels downhill. So, with that logic, it is the monk poop that is ruining all good drinking sorces in Tibet.

If this is the case then yes the monks are to blame. Man! That's gross. I don't care how enlightened a person is. His poop still tastes like poop.
 
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
 
quote:
May be because he was blind, he was endowed with an outstanding sense of smell and palate.
I think Dom went blind from drinking bad alcohol and after that he devoted his life to making the best alcohol possible!

"It passed the first test - I didn't go blind." -Homer (in the episode with the "Flaming Moes")
 
Posted by Julie (Member # 5580) on :
 
Why would I want to take it outside? It's cold outside. :Goes to check thermometer: Okay, so 40 degrees isn't that cold, but still. I win this argument because I said so, and that trumps everything. "I win" times infinity! [Taunt]
 
Posted by Kyle Katarn (Member # 3567) on :
 
Forget Tibet, the UK is who has a water shortage!
 
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
 
quote:
Perhaps we should require them to use porta-potties
*shudders*
ick....
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Okay my stance on Nothing is...

That I'm against it.

Yeah.

-Bok
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
quote:
Didn't monks invent beer?
Beer was invented by the ancient Egyptians, and it did have a ceremonial role in their religion, but I'm not sure if "monk" is a word that can be accurately associated with their religious people, nor do I know if it was invented by such a person.
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
Beer was invented by the Babylonians on January 7th of 2214 BC. Coors Light, if I remember correctly. I don't know what you guys are talking about.
 
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
Silly, if the Babylonians had invented Coors Light, they would have thrown it down their own mountain as it tastes like cold yellow bodilly fluids.

No, they invented a more European style beer, with a better kick and more of a punch,

which gets us to the difference between European/Christian Monks who spend their days making wine, and Tibetan monks, who are Buddhists and practice martial arts and can defeat Ninja's even if out numbered 3 to 1 (though 4 to 1 usually does in the Monks-and you don't want to know what they could do against pirates.).

Now, according to my AD&D first editions, a group of monks, including the higher leveled ones, would kick the backsides of anyone trying to force port-potties on their special way of life.

And the truth is that this is a bunch of Liberal/Environmentalist garbage spouted by President Bush so that Cheney can buy the mountain properties for a song after the Monks are kicked out. He then plans to drill for oil and open up a special Ski school for millionare republican's only.

Then you'll see excrement dumped on those down hill.

[ November 17, 2003, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: Dan_raven ]
 
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
 
quote:
Tibetan monks, who are Buddhists and practice martial arts and can defeat Ninja's even if out numbered 3 to 1
Actually, I'm pretty sure that the function of Tibetan monks is to be slaughtered whenever they get in the way of evil white guys who show up wanting their scrolls or Golden Children.

[ November 17, 2003, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: saxon75 ]
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
Wow (tm) it's sure *hard* to win a debate with a straw monk.
 
Posted by Black Mage (Member # 5800) on :
 
Only Hitler would say a monk could beat a ninja.
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I hate monks, but I can say that because I am one (((monks))).
 
Posted by Sopwith (Member # 4640) on :
 
The Tibetan monks stole the water sources from the Yeti!

Return Tibet to the Original Inhabitants!

Yetis Unite~!
 
Posted by Black Mage (Member # 5800) on :
 
Face it, the yetis will never unite. They don't even have DSL; they're too primitive to understand the concept that unity=strength.

The average 98.453lb monk,ie the average size of a Tibetan monk, produces 6.7lb of refuse a day. And the food they eat,eg rancid yak butter, makes for water that kills. 3.5 people per square mile have died of monk $%&# poisoning in the past month.

I beleive Hitler proposed a plan in which monks would be allowed to poison water supplies. Ergo, vis-a-vis, and concordently.
 
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
 
That's an ad infinitum reductio hominem fallacy!
 


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