If you've seen it post comments here. I'm going home to watch it non-stop right now.
AJ
Posted by Sugar+Spice (Member # 5874) on :
I've watched half of it and I'm going to watch the rest in about half an hour. So far it's really great, the story makes more sense and the characters' stories seem much more developed, especially the Ents. I love Ents. Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Is it just DVD or is it out on VHS, too?
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
It's not even that it's TTT EE CC Cast commentary. heh heh heh. I'm seeing it on Saturday, and I can't wait.
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
*doesn't have it* Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
Mine has shipped from Amazon, it's not here yet. Posted by Nato (Member # 1448) on :
Has anybody found a better deal than $25.99 on Amazon?
Posted by BYuCnslr (Member # 1857) on :
Walmart is going $23.99 from my sources. I don't know about Costco though... Satyagraha
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
Yeah, I paid about 26 with shipping and all. Mine was $21.99 without shipping. It got more expensive after they started shipping it out. Posted by Nato (Member # 1448) on :
Well, I just ordered one from Amazon. I decided it was probably the best because there's an additional $5 rebate on there too, so really I got it for $21 (free shipping)
I won't have time to watch it until Thanksgiving break anyways, and conveniently, I've got a pal who will have just had her wisdom teeth out, so she might need a good movie to watch then.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
I paid much more.
but i got myself a cool gollum book and dvd and a nifty little statuette. Completely worth it.
I'm over half way through, and it's simply amazing.
Posted by Julie (Member # 5580) on :
<--- doesn't have it and probably won't until X-mas. Posted by Psycho Triad (Member # 3331) on :
*has been specifically told that I'm not to buy it*
well theres one christmas present i don't have to guess about.
Posted by BelladonnaOrchid (Member # 188) on :
::Cries:: I waited an hour and a half with my room-mate to get a copy, and when we got home and opened it, it had two CD#4's and no #2 CD!
Posted by Toretha (Member # 2233) on :
wow.......just wow and it's got gollum's acceptance speech hidden in it
Posted by BYuCnslr (Member # 1857) on :
Is anyone else going to just wait for the EE Trilogy to buy them all? Of course, I have wonderful friends that probably already have it, as well as the point where I'll be seeing FotR-EE as well as TTT-EE in theatres once each, AND THEN in order at the Tuesday Trilogy showing! mwahahaha!!!!
:: dodges out before he is attacked by mobs and before spoilers are out :: Satyagraha
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
IT WAS AWESOME.
EVERYTHING WAS BETTER
*SPOILERS*
The whole "ring must go to Isengard" makes a lot more sense with the extra scene, and actually puts it back into the spirit of the book. We know that Denethor liked Boromir better and didn't like Faramir as much, so the whole parental approval angst on top of the ring's power to begin with is much more logical.
Merry and Pippin got their Old Toby!
A lot of the fight scenes showed more individual hand to hand combat than the blur it was before.
Also liked the horse plotline. Aragorn's horse was named Brego in the book wasn't it?
AJ
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
*spoilers*
And the whole Aragorn-Eowyn thing went much deeper as in the book. I loved the funeral scene where she sings. I found her a much more likable character now. You see the depth of her near-dispair.
AJ
Posted by narrativium (Member # 3230) on :
My brother has 5.1 surround. Posted by beatnix19 (Member # 5836) on :
SPOILERS
A couple of things made more sense, like, how the horse found Aragon after his fall and why Faramir took Frodo with him. I really think the scene with Faramir and Boromir helped explain the reason why Faramir was initially tempted. It goes a long way to restore his moral standing that I thought was lost in the theatrical release.
I do have a complaint: did anyone else about crap themselves when they saw the box fall from Sam's coat at the very beginning? I though PJ was going to slip in the dirt and maybe lead that to the scouring of the Shire in RotK later. But then it was just salt!!! PJ is a tricky litle man. So anyways I enjoyed it. can't wait for the final instalment!
Posted by prolixshore (Member # 4496) on :
I haven't seen it yet, but I can't wait. I'll be watching it this weekend.
I Just wanted to express my opinion that Eowyn is the worst character in these movies. I cannot stand any scene between her and Aragorn.
Those of you in love with her can feel free to kill me for my heresy, but before you do, think about it. The rest are so great that it is easy for her to be the worst.
--ApostleRadio
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
The Two Towers is not the same without Ent Draft!
Yes!
Edit: Tom Bombadil's line was uttered by Treebeard. Interesting (would still like to have seen the Old Forest in the Shire!)
[ November 19, 2003, 09:07 AM: Message edited by: eslaine ]
Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
SPOILERS
Ron thought the Old Toby thing was a little too marijuana-ish, with all the giggling and stuff, but I didn't see it until he mentioned it.
See, watching this with Ron is just a bunch of fun. I told him I didn't think there were any new Arwen scenes, and he said he figgured PJ would put another one in just to piss him off.
If the set Brego free, then why did he still have a bridle and rope and all on him when he found Aragorn?
Posted by beatnix19 (Member # 5836) on :
I wondered about this too but it could just be a mistake. Like when Merry and Pippen are in the orc camp when the rohirrim attack. When the horse is about to stomp on Merry/Pippen's head (can't remember which one) his hands are free and out to each side, but the next scene shows his hands still bound. There are always little goofs like that in movies.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Apostle, I think they fleshed out Eowyn much more in the EE. They kept her true to the book which doesn't really have her being terribly likeable til the end anyway. I like her much better now, especially once you hear the actress sing!
AJ
Posted by prolixshore (Member # 4496) on :
Hmmm. We shall see AJ, we shall see.
--ApostleRadio
Posted by Sugar+Spice (Member # 5874) on :
Have you noticed this mistake - In the scene where Frodo and Sam are being held by Faramir and Sam urges Frodo to put the ring on, and he refuses. They are leaning against barrels. When Faramir comes in seconds later and they stand up, the room empty. There will be lots of continuity mistakes in a film this complex and this long, just love them and accept them. Loving the EE. Sugar
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
AJ, I totally agree with the stuff you said.
Right from the very beginning I already knew I was going to love it. The elvish rope scene was always one i was hoping to see, and was disapointed to see it missing from the movie. granted it was an addition on the first one, so if you hadn't seen the EE of FOTR, you wouldn't understand the rope scene in this EE. But it was nice, and added some humor and a bit of longing for the shire. I noticed that with a lot of the added scenes. More humor and more sadness all in one shot. Sort of balancing the two out.
There was alot more Gollum from the very beginning, more Gollum/Smeagol, more fleshing out of his relationship to the ring and even Gollum and Frodo's relationship, connected by the ring. All of it great stuff.
Basically every problem i had with this movie in the theaters(mostly pacing) was completely cleared up here. Everything fit together better, everything made sense, characters were fleshed out more.
It was great to see more stuff with Gandalf and Gimli and Eowin and Farimir and even Boromir! Who you're just made to like even more, as if you didn't already from FOTR!
It helps somewhat clear up the part with the horse saving Aragorn that i never really liked. little things like the added couple seconds when they're defending the gate at helms deep and the king comes in to fight. in the original he pretty much gets cut back right away. here we see him jump in and save someone, fight for a bit, get hit himself, and then fight back the orc that hits him. Much more kingly.
Gimli's nervous system line during the final tally was priceless.
I can't say enough about this movie. But what i can say is that this EE puts TTT right up there on even footing with the FOTR dvd which I thought the theatrical version of TTT just didn't live up to. No longer.
Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
Ahhh, relief.
It is so amazing how the new scenes are so flawlessly woven in and add so much to the movie.
Moreso than with fellowship, this really opened up the movie and made me like it more. Even the battle scenes are better.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Another thing. Did you think the color was "richer" in this one? I think the did some more color editing from the first DVD release. A lot of details of color and clothing jumped out at me more. Legolas' arrows when they are being surrounded by the Rhorrim look a lot greener than before. Also it seemed like they put more flesh tones back into Aragorn and most of the other characters faces. The one notable exception is Eowyn. There is one face to face scene with Aragorn when I'm beting they put a pale color wash on her (in keeping with her description in the book) and left him at the richer color levels.
*spoiler* I also liked the longer interaction between Saruman and Wormtounge, including the bit about the serpent ring that Aragorn wears. I need to freeze frame some of Aragorn's shots and look for that ring. I know I saw it in one scene.
AJ
[ November 19, 2003, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by Vána (Member # 3262) on :
AJ, to see Aragorn's ring, maybe the best place is in FotR when Boromir picks up the Ring on the mountain, and they show that Aragorn was holding his sword during the whole exchange. Good shot of it there.
Yes, I did that from memory. I am in love - you must remember this.
I noticed the color, too! I'm glad someone else did, because that means it's real and not my imagination.
The scene with Faramir/Boromir/Denethor should have been in the theatrical. If nothing else, that one should have been. It ties their stories together in all three movies - it's so sad that some people will never see it!
There was so much that I loved. Treebeard's last line about the Entwives was perhaps the saddest line, ever. And...and...ah! Just so much. The EE was about a thousand times better than the theatrical. I'll probably never watch the theatrical again, actually. I will for FotR, but not for TTT. I just couldn't.
To everyone who cares even a little bit about these movies - even if you don't buy it, rent it, borrow it, whatever. See it as soon as you can. You will enjoy the story so, so much more.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
how can you still watch the theatrical FOTR? Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
To those of you who noticed the mistakes:
Did you find them yourself or on a website? You don't have to answer that, but unless you found it yourself, I say they did a good enough job.
Anyway, I watched the first disc last night with the commentary and the actual show. I'd do the second disk tonight, but have home work to do. Blah.
Posted by beatnix19 (Member # 5836) on :
I noticed the mistake watching last night. I usually pick things up if they are obvious like the rope. I know there are sites and people out there that dedicate themselves to uncovering these mistakes. Those people obviously are missing the point of the movies.
Posted by Vána (Member # 3262) on :
I'd say I can still watch the theatrical FotR because I fell so hard for it when I first saw it, and because I've seen the EE enough times that I can just fill in the gaps myself if I (for some reason) need to save myself the half hour.
Regarding Brego's bridle - yeah, I wondered about that, too. It'd actually be pretty dangerous to set a horse out free with a rope tied to its head, and I'm sure the people of Rohan would never endanger their horses, ever. Maybe he was just sent out to roam for a while, until the battles were over, because "he's seen enough of war," but not actually free free. But even then, why with the rope on? I could maybe see leaving the bridle on, since it's not really a problem.
Posted by Olivet (Member # 1104) on :
I noticed it because I live with a man who CANNOT keep his mouth shut about stuff like that. It didn't actually bother me until he pointed it out.
Also, when all the Meaningful Looks were being exchanged between Aragorn and Legolas when he finally showed up at Helm's Deep... We had some fun, there. Like, "You know, I sort of have this thing for elves..." "No way, Scruffy-- you've been kissing a horse" etc. *wipes tear*
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I liked the Sauruman "You smell of horse!" to Wormtounge Like orcs he's been hanging out with don't smell bad?
AJ
Posted by Lime (Member # 1707) on :
I can't believe that they didn't include the Denethor/Boromir/Faramir scene - the movie makes so much more sense with it added back in, and it changes how you view all 3 movies!
Posted by A Rat Named Dog (Member # 699) on :
I just have to say that when I first read the title of this thread, I read it to myself, "[machine gun noise] Ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta! [girly scream] EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Back to your regular, grown-up conversation.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I'm lazy. It was much easier than typing it all out.
Typing at all right now is interesting because I just gave mysefl a horlible paper cut. One of those kinds that stings and makes you jump up and down (and cuss for those of you so inclined). So my index finger is all taped up.
AJ
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
I just got mine delivered today.
I'm watching as I'm typing now. Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
Posted by msquared (Member # 4484) on :
Has any one else found the MTV easter egg? I did.
msquared
Posted by beatnix19 (Member # 5836) on :
MTV easter egg? Is this the gollum speach? Where is it?
Watched the movie already now diving into extras. The gollum piece is awsome. Andy Skerkis did such an amazing job. WOW!!!!!
Posted by msquared (Member # 4484) on :
Go to Disk 1 and go to the last scene selection screen, around 30 I think. When you are at the last scene you can choose, press down. I ring should hightlite to the left of the bottom of the screen. Hit enter.
msquared
Posted by Amka (Member # 690) on :
You know, I just had to say, I loved seeing the Huorns get the orcs.
It really was a shame that scene had to be cut. It and the lead up to it really weren't all that long. But the lead up was necessary or else there would have been confusion. Both probably did clock in over a minute. There was likely a contracted time Jackson had to keep the film under, as well.
It would be really, really hard to edit a movie like that.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
Have you guys watched the special features?
I've finished the first disc now. They're very very cool.
This one has a much extended Tolkien/history of middle earth chapter that is prety fun. And they actually talk about all the differences and changes made that strayed from the book. and talk about why they did them and stuff. pretty interesting.
the gollum chapter is great. check out gollum with a blue light mohawk. and the things they went through to create gollum, and everything really is just amazing. this movie seems like it was a lot bigger feat than fellowship. and it's gotten me really excited for ROTK. i hope these special features and repeat viewing will be enough to hold me over. Posted by Dag (Member # 5128) on :
I am always so critical when it comes to the LotR movies. I guess its just because I have such a high standard for them. I must say however, this EE is very well put togeather. The extra scenes give a depth to the story and make it less of an action packed, hack and slash movie. I exspecially like the part when Aragorn talks about his age and history with Eowyn.
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
m^2, I just watched the MTV goodie, and it was hilarious. I won't spoil it, but I will give it a high rating. <gollum voice> "I hate MTV! MTV sucks!" </gollum voice> Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
quote: I exspecially like the part when Aragorn talks about his age and history with Eowyn.
Yes, I thought it would be very helpful for the non-reading LOTR fans.
*spoiler* . . . . . I liked how he dumped the soup and she turned around. as he was dumping it. Posted by Dag (Member # 5128) on :
Yes it was a terrific part. Her acting was a little rough but it turned out alright. Still my favorite part is Gimli's horse problems.."Get me on this thing, Im a rider!" Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
*breathes life back into thread*
Not now! Now that I've finally seen it!
Anyway, it totally rocked.
Did you notice that in the earliest scenes gollum at first looks a bit red? I guess it was a colorwash.
I thought Eowyn looked just a little bit rediculous while she was singing. Not that she sung badly, I thought it was a great expression of her grief, just her head movements or something threw me off visually.
What was IN that soup anyway, squid?
I loved how Aragorn admitted to being 78, that's such a great touch.
I did get a pot-vibe from Merry and Pippin with the Old Toby. Especially when I saw Treebeard smelling the air and seeing smoke eminating from the storage place.
I LOVE ENTS!!! I'm so glad there were more of them!
Posted by fiazko (Member # 5812) on :
i'm halfway through disc 4.
loved the eowyn/aragorn scene with the soup. there's some kind of soup that has that lard-looking substance, but i can't remember what it is. i'm pretty sure it's completely tasteless and has a gruesome texture. funny that he scooped up the biggest chunk right off.
as far as mistakes, something i noticed the second time i saw TTT in the theaters is, when merri and pippin go into fangorn, merri's cut switches sides. coincidently, at the same time, his leaf pin is also upside down. or at least opposite of the way he wears it the rest of the time. also, just something i noticed in trying to figure out what was going on with merri, everyone in the original fellowship wear their leaf pointing to their right except for sam. his points to his left. i always wondered why, and i haven't gotten that far in the book, so if there's a reason for it, someone fill me in. i'm not sure about gimli because of his beard, but everyone else checks out. and i confirmed merri's pin and cut on a website. i'll try to find it and put it in.
also, when they're preparing for battle at helm's deep, and legolas argues with aragorn, does anyone else think they forgot his blue contacts?
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
Well, they DO have the extended version on VHS. I could have kissed my former husband when he dropped that by all unexpectedly! However, the VHS version does NOT have cast commentary.
I guess they'll get folks to buy those blasted DVD's yet!
The extended version redeemed the theatrical - which was sorely disappointing.
And definitely, Gimli's little quip about the nervous system was a knee slapper - Gosh, maybe I'll watch the whole thing again since I can't sleep.
Posted by Lalo (Member # 3772) on :
I have to say, I'm enjoying this extended TTT far more than the theater version. It's not the crowd-pleasing idiocy I once thought.
I'm still annoyed by Gollum's cartoonish eyes, though it's far less obnoxious than I felt it was.
Anyone catch that bit where Pippen finds an apple in the water, then looks to the sky? Great throwback to the scene in FotR where Aragorn throws him the apple, though I'm still not a fan of the FotR's scene's existence in the first place.
There was so much that struck me as I watched it, and now I can't recall it. Damn. I'll have to repost once I get my thoughts together.
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
I've gotten through most of the supplemental material now. This DVD is worth the extra that you had to wait to get it, and it's price. I'm going to get years of entertainment out of it.
Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
quote:the VHS version does NOT have cast commentary
Awww...the cast comentary is the best! It was in FotR anyway. *still doesn't have TTT* Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
I just watched it on a big screen with a meaty Dolby 6.1 sound setup.
Yum.
...I was glad to see that they included the result of the orc-slaying contest, and that the forest outside Helm's Deep appeared as well.
Posted by Carrie (Member # 394) on :
The Cast Commentary for TTT is absolutely hilarious. Dominic Monaghan and Billy Boyd (honestly, if you don't know who they are in the movie, stop reading and go watch) are quite possibly the funniest people I've heard. Also, John Rhys-Davies saying "I had to knee them in the gonads" made me cry. Sallah! Saying "gonads"!
I loved the new/extended scenes. I watched it with a group of friends, and when the killing contest result scene came up, we rewound it right there to watch it again.
Two thumbs WAY up.
Posted by newfoundlogic (Member # 3907) on :
Definitely going to get it for myself for Chanukah.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I've been watching the appendices and think that overall LotR had better appendicies than TTT. They don't dwell on how the people actually feel about things as much.
AJ
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
I totally agree, Banna.
I was also kind of annoyed by how Sean Astin kept interrupting Elijah Wood and Andy Serkis during the cast commentary and going on and on about things.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I haven't heard the cast comentary, but I saw the extended version last Saturday. It was wonderful! SO much better than the theatre version.
This may convince me to get a TV and dvd player. Hmm...
Posted by Jill (Member # 3376) on :
Sarcasticmuppet- Try 87. In the book, the final tally was 42-41, not 43-42. Not that it matters, but I wonder why they changed it. I loved all the added scenes. They were wonderful. The only thing that bothered me was the Brego scene. No matter how amazing and kingly Aragorn is, you'd think the people of Rohan, whose whole culture revolves around horses, would be better at dealing with crazy horses. Whatever. Oh, and Treebeard's line, "I don't remember [what they look like]" broke my heart!
Posted by Lalo (Member # 3772) on :
Am I the only man in America who isn't attracted to Liv Tyler? She's pretty, but I get such a sense of the... Of the bovine? from her that I don't really find myself fantasizing about her.
Am I crazy? Or, for a less easy question, does anyone else find her rather, well, bovine? It's the only word I can think of to explain how I feel about her looks.
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
So I went to my Uncle's house for Thanksgiving and he has TTT-EE but my Mom and my sister didn't want to watch it. I had to beg just to get them to let me skip through and watch the new scenes and I didn't get to watch the cast commentary at all. Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
I watched the whole thing, and I love Faramir even more. Wah. Also, I need to watch it with Cast Commentary! BADLY!! >_<
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
So Lalo they've changed from doe eyes to calf eyes? Or is it her teeth when she smiles? It seems like she only smiles with her upper lip and all you see are her top teeth. I've wondered about that myself. On the other hand she didn't turn out half bad considering that Aerosmith guy is her father, the good genetics definitely all came from her mother!
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