So, if we ever DO have a HatrackCon, would anyone object to charging an additional $20 of all the guests in order to buy Kama a plane ticket, provided John also promises to come? Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
Sounds good to me. Would that be enough?
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Have you floated this past them?
Do we tap our forks on the side of our glasses if we want proof of mutual, same-plane existance?
I'd be happy to donate $20 to the Bring Kama to Hatrack Fund.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I haven't mentioned this to either of 'em yet, but I think it's eminently clear that they DO have to actually spend some time in the same general area.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
<is glad there is no baby-eating being suggested in this thread>
I don't know if I could come; but if I can, paying an extra $20 to get to meet Kama sounds like a bargain!
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
$20 to see Kama, sure.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
I think its a great idea. I looked up tickets, and Warsaw to LA to Warsaw is about $600.00. Would $20 be enough?
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
For Kama? Sure thing!! For John? Don't know about that. Last I heard, he wanted to choke me, so I'm not sure that having him there would be safe for me...
Posted by Mephistopheles (Member # 3250) on :
If I gave $50 could I get a date with Kama?
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
I must have missed the HatrackCon thread - where and when is it?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
You know, if we HAD to, we could hold the "con" in Chicago -- where it's $400 round-trip from Warsaw, and $200 round-trip from LA -- and fly John out, as well, for the same price. Posted by ana kata (Member # 5666) on :
That's only 30 of us. I bet we could get that much, sure! Count me in.
But what about the other far flung hatrackers? Should we start a Hatrack Perpetual Travel Fund?
Posted by ana kata (Member # 5666) on :
We could make it back by selling tickets to the John/Nathan choking. My money's on Nathan.
[ December 03, 2003, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: ana kata ]
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
Do we also need to take up a collection to hire a couple of thugs to ensure :Locke doesn't make it to the H-Con? Or are Strider and Frisco willing to do that pro-bono? [NOTE: I'm not talking about physical harm here -- just a brief detention].
--- BTW -- how is our resident precocious one? He doesn't seem to be posting much these days.
EDIT: decided to add Frisco's name to the mix.
[ December 03, 2003, 12:12 PM: Message edited by: Zalmoxis ]
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Ooh! Or we could charge people to choke, noogie, or wedgie Nathan themselves!
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
Are you kidding? He has... muscles. And intelligence. A clear advantage over me.
I just have very fast legs, which don't help when you are trying to choke someone.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
What's this about a HatrackCon? and where is it supposed to be?
I'll only pay for Kama to come if I can go myself.
If it's in the area I'll drive John myself!
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
do we have to specify an activity? or do we just hand over $20 and get an hour of Nathan's time for whatever devious activities we want?
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
I think I'll just stay home...
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
you heard him, people. hatrackcon at T_Smith's house!
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
Those were merely suggestions, of course. You'll be free to torture Nathan in whatever manner you find suitable.
w00t! I'm so there.
[ December 03, 2003, 12:27 PM: Message edited by: Jon Boy ]
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Con at Nate's house! Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
<<inaudible curse>>
Darn it, why does everything have to be about me!?
[ December 03, 2003, 12:28 PM: Message edited by: T_Smith ]
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
It was always all for you T_Smith: the waiting, the hoping, the dreaming, the crying. I wish I could just hold on to something long enough for a change - instead - the inevitable yard-sale of the soul - me - the old tennis racket that never gets sold, returned to the wall in the back of the garage to wait for another day in the sun.
(These are exactly the kinds of temptations I should avoid.)
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
There is something very frightening about celia and me posting the same thing almost simultaneously (it would've been simultaneous, if not for my slow dialup).
[Edit: No, not that post, the earlier one.]
[ December 03, 2003, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: rivka ]
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Yeah I'd be willing to contribute $20 at least. If the proposed hatrack con is in Chicago, I'm willing to help plan since I'm here. But I want something more concrete than the nebulous stuff flying around right now.
I also think that if it is in the Chicago it should be held in a suburb with rail access to downtown. (Not my suburb because it is too far west.) Having it in a suburb will be cheaper, and we can do a big downtown trip as part of the event. Probably something close-ish to O'Hare, like Des Plaines for example. Unfortunately the suburbs that I'm aware of close to Midway are more on the icky side, but there is rail access from midway to downtown, and then out to Des Plaines for about $10.
AJ
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
celia's evil is an insidious and corrupting form of evil. No one is safe from it.
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.
and, rivka, thanks for the edit. surely we couldn't have been that in tune. Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I'd like to avoid Midway airport, anyway. I'd recommend something near O'Hare, on the Upper West Side, if we do a suburban hotel thing. It may also be easier to just do a downtown hotel, and have people shuttle from O'Hare.
Drive-times will be similar, regardless, except for people who live in the suburbs themselves.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
That's true. I've never thought of myself as a garage-sale tennis racket.
More like a bargain-bin book -- the one that was supposed to be a bestseller, but is now $1.99.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
I'd love the Chicago idea -- I just came from there -- visiting my sister in Naperville. Took the rail, and it wasn't too expensive.
And seeing as how that sister is the one who first introduced me to OSC by giving my kids Enders Game for Christmas several years ago......
I'm sure she'd let me stay with her if there was a Hatrack gathering..
Farmgirl
Posted by odouls268 (Member # 2145) on :
count my 20 bucks in.
but im still chanting 'greensboro greensboro greensboro' even though 'greensboro' has far more syllables than the traditional three syllable chant word.
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
I know something you people don't! Neener neener neeeeeener!
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
A hatrack con in chicago would be infinitely more accessible than some where on the east or west coast.
And i'd gladly pay $20 to bring Kama over.
Ni!
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
If we do the Chicago thing I suggest school time (weekend though). Of course that's kind of silly but that's what would work best for me.
Hobbes Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
PC, if you're aware of John already traveling out to Poland to declare his undying devotion or something, you may as well say so. j/k
Posted by odouls268 (Member # 2145) on :
not a chance of me going to chicago. not a chance.
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
statute of limitations still hasn't run out?
Posted by odouls268 (Member # 2145) on :
dammit theyre on to me Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
I can't say what I know. Mum's the word. Unless things have changed, my information is not nearly as cheerful as you'd hope.
I'm glad to see you're still as optimistic as ever, Tom. Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
I'm in! Finally, proof of Kama's reality.
Who is John?
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Leto/Leto II/GreNME.
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
I sort of doubt I'd be able to make it to an event outside California in the next 12 to 18 months. But you can tentatively write me down for $20 in 2005.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I don't know, Tom, I think suburb hotel/motels would be cheaper overall than a place in the city. But you know the area better so if you think there are reasonable prices downtown I'm willing to go for it.
Also, a lot of people will use Midway. Even though we are closer to O'Hare we use it more ourselves. Why? Because Southwest flys out of there, and even when looking for specials they are often cheaper than every other airline. When I checked a couple of days ago you could go round trip from Chicago to LAX for $160 on Southwest while the nearest competitor was about $210.
I guess it all depends on peoples opionions of what they want in their hotel/motel. I'm a no-frills Motel6 kind of girl in most of my travels. As recently seen at the Cincinnati gathering, 4 person occupancy can lower costs to around $15 per night, which is very affordable. You have to bring your own shampoo though.
Now at Wenchcon they've wanted things fancier, and I have no problems with that but it does up the prices, even on packaged deals. So the question really becomes what is the participants concensus on the subject? I can see going one level up from a Motel6 but do we want to stay at the "motel" level or move up to the "hotel" level?
AJ
Posted by Jenny Gardener (Member # 903) on :
We want CHEAP lodgings. My hubby and I just bought land, and my play money is limited.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Posted by Primal Curve (Member # 3587) on :
Boooring. Turns out I'm out-of-the-loop as usual, and my info is out-of-date. Curse you fates!
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Does Kinko's still offer videoteleconferencing? I was going to offer my 7 passenger van, but by the time I put my 3 kids in....
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
Why bring Kama over on a plane? Can't we just download her?
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Not without a wedding ring.
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
quote: Why bring Kama over on a plane? Can't we just download her?
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
Hey, if I didn't have parents... and I could drive... and I had a car... I could go! Chicago's um... only 1047 kilometres away!...
Someday, someday...
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
I would pay DOUBLE if both Kama and Leto were to attend.
But they have to do a skit or something to pay us all back.
And sit at the kiddie table.
... with me...
[ December 03, 2003, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: Bob_Scopatz ]
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
I'll chip in $20, and volunteer to head up a New Orleans-Chicago roadtrip/pick-up service.
Maybe we could check out timeshares in Chicago, since once we have one of these things, we're gonna want another.
Posted by Bob_Scopatz (Member # 1227) on :
My ex-wife can probably get us time shares cheap. Depends on how many people are coming.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Okay -- who's this Leto guy? I see you all mention him alot, but don't find any actual posts by him when I do a search. Is that Kama's real boyfriend, or are just guys just kidding her?
Kama -- I have a cousin over there -- will you bring him with you when you come, so I can finally meet him???
Farmgirl
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
There isn't any way I could make it to the con, but I'd be willing to contribute $20 to the "Fly Kama to Chicago" fund. Just email me an address to send it to.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Actually, to avoid being bombarded by email messages requesting $20, I'll rephrase that--Tom or CT, email me an address and I'll send $20.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
I, too, will likely not make it to another gathering (I've sold off my left arm for WenchCon 2004 already), but I'll donate $20.
Noemon, I'll email you. We can do snailmail or PayPal, and I come with references. Posted by ana kata (Member # 5666) on :
Yes, I vouch for CT! She should be treasurer, if she will take it on. CT, I hope you did get my check from our other project? I don't balance my checkbook so I never know if things come through.
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
ana kata, we are two peas in a pod, then. I have no idea.
But it's all good. Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I happen to be extremely anal retentive about checkbook balancing...
AJ
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
the timeshare would be an interesting idea, however we still don't have a workable date... how far into the future should this be? clearly at least 6 months after Wenchcon, if not longer.
AJ
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
HAHA!!! Kama's reaction to this was choice.
I would rob a bank to get to a HatrackCon in Chicago. And I would also pick up an extra $20 for Kama.
Chicago is just the coolest city in the states because *I* was born and raised there.
Glenview is a great upper west side/close to O'Hare/classy suburb that I'm sure has some lodgings. (I don't know how cheap they'd be, as the neighborhood is kind of nice.)
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
There seems to be a complication.
Apparently Chicago is mythical . . . Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
quote:Kama's reaction to this was choice
hmm? Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
Are you calling me fat Kama?
Hobbes Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Yes? Posted by Ethics Gradient (Member # 878) on :
What's with the lack of "paying $20 for Ethics Gradient to fly over from Australia" action?
What's Kama got that I don't, eh?
*thinks*
Oh, ok. Fair 'nuff.
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
(We have an illegal insider trading deal going on for you EG. You need to keep it QUIET!!)
Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
Well...maybe 2005 or 2006 I can go to a Hatrack Con. Unles...why don't plan a Hatrack Con here in Brazil? Rio de Janeiro is beautiful right now. Summer, you know. :-)
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
You have all those lithe, tan, hot Brazillian chicks down there that run around half nekked.
I'd have to beat them all with sticks in a vanity-stricken, jealous rage. That would be bad for press. Posted by Eduardo_Sauron (Member # 5827) on :
Beat people with sticks is fairly common here. Ops...no, sorry...that would be our police. ;-)
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
<Wonders if mackillian has ever considered a career in law enforcement.>
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
You know Tom every time I see "A serious proposal..." and see your name next to it. I think, "But he's already married to Christy!"
AJ
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Which is still better than my reaction to the title. I keep expecting recipes for cooking toddlers.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Are the toddlers being cooked or doing the cooking, I'm confused... JA
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Hobbes: Yes, we are now calling you "Fat Kama."
--Grammar Nazi-ess
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Very confused, apparently, "JA"!
As for being or doing, I think both, and swiftly.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Wow, that is an interesting "modest proposal". I'd never heard of it before, but I'm sure Tom knew about it. JA
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
We read it in HS when we did a unit on satirical essays. That was a VERY noisy class -- a number of my classmates didn't get the concept of "satire." Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Oh my, they thought he was serious! AJ
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Yeah, they also thought Gulliver's Travels was just a fun story. Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Probably the Wizard of Oz too then...
AJ
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:I have reckoned upon a medium that a child just born will weigh 12 pounds
Good grief! *in awe of Irish mothers*
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Um, kat, I suspect that's an exaggeration for effect. It was far more likely that the babies were born underweight -- this is supposed to be a suggestion to deal with widespread hunger.
OTOH, Swift was lived when men had little contact with newborns. Maybe he just had no idea what an average newborn weighed. Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
My college English class thought he was serious too.
Hobbes Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
So does this mean we really shoudln't have taken Tom even semi-seriously about the whole matter?
AJ
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Hey, my proposal was SERIOUS. I'm never modest.
Posted by Lalo (Member # 3772) on :
Oh, good.
Tom, we want full-frontal nude pictures of you on Foobonic, and we want them now.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
oh my... What would Christy say?
I know exactly " "
AJ
Posted by Lalo (Member # 3772) on :
I'm not sure she'd have that reaction, AJ. I mean, she did marry the dude. You know Tom's packing a bit of a Davidson missile under his pants, there.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I think the eye roll would be directed at YOU, Lalo and she'd probaby do this to Tom
AJ
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Sadly, Eddie, the last time I was photographed naked on a beach, I was surrounded by people trying to push me back into the water.
Posted by Lalo (Member # 3772) on :
I can see the " "
"C'mere, baby. Let me relax you."
"Hey! Don't put your hands on the back of my head!"
"My eyes!"
But in all fairness, the emoticon would have to follow the blowjob monkeys, not precede it. And the emoticon would definitely need to precede the oral sex, unless Tom's a fan of snowballs.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I was thinking of a much more innocent scenario: Is a come on some friendly flirtation well you know the rest of the story...
Untill of course the infamous roll over and afterwards
AJ
[ December 05, 2003, 11:51 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
quote:But in all fairness, the emoticon would have to follow the blowjob monkeys, not precede it. And the emoticon would definitely need to precede the oral sex, unless Tom's a fan of snowballs.
EWWWW! Mister explicit!
"Hey, look there's the edge! And there goes Eddie right over it!"
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
Hey, you guys didn't chuckle at Tom's last post. What's wrong with you? Posted by Troubadour (Member # 83) on :
*Also puts his hand up for the revolving travel fund*
Although EG did get the Aussie flight vote in before me.... Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Moose: --I--
AJ: What are you NOT anal retentive about?
Lalo and Tom:
I would contribute $20 for Kama, Leto, and EG.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Oh, and TTT. Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
Stormy, I think Tom's fully aware that all of us (except msquared) chuckle at his jokes. Even (especially?) the self-deprecating ones. Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
So, any more thoughts about this Hatrackon? I still wouldn't be able to go, but I'd still be willing to chip in toward Kama's ticket.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I was just thinking about this the other day, actually.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Summer? 2004? Yes? No?
Posted by Narnia (Member # 1071) on :
Chicago? Yes??? Yes??
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
I'd be interested, but would have to converse with units of a higher power (parents) and check my funds after WenchCon.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I'm thinking summer 2004, in Chicago, sounds pretty good. Of course, we could make it coincide with GenCon, in Indianapolis, but.... Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
*laugh* Um, I don't think Tom is thinking very clearly. I mean, I am due in June and all... Perhaps I'd be up for a gathering by August, but I think we're going to be quite occupied this summer. A Chicago appearance might be possible, but its hard to say now.
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
August it is, then. And we can all meet Tomlet.
*books flight*
So I'm just going to wander around until I bump into one of you guys, okay?
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
quote:You have all those lithe, tan, hot Brazillian chicks down there that run around half nekked
Its thoughts like this that make me want to move to Brazil. If I spoke even the slightest bit of Portugese, I would be there already.
Anyway, I would donate 20 bucks to Kama coming over here, but I would also give John 20 bucks to stay away. I figure my chances of dating Kama go up at least 20% with less competition. Posted by Lalo (Member # 3772) on :
As far as scheduling goes, August is fine for me, depending on my speed. If it's later in the month, though, I may need to thumb a ride with a Hatracker back from NY to make it in time -- I'll post more when I have the time to figure out how long it'll take me to reach Wisconsin, then decide what to do from there.
Posted by Boon (Member # 4646) on :
Okay, who's our contact in Chicago? We need plans and costs ASAP...or, at least I do...
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*bump* for blacwolve
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
August? Chicago!? I might be able to actually COME to this thing...
(marvels)
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Hmmmmmm... you know, later this year I might be able to attend.
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