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Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
I like the guy, I really do. . . I like his stance on Iraq (turn over affairs to the UN), I like his economic plans (PLANS! HE HAS MADE ACTUAL PLANS, AND POSTED THEM ON THE WEB!). . .

Why don't we hear more about this articulate, young-looking-for-fifty, politico from the South?
 
Posted by beatnix19 (Member # 5836) on :
 
And you know if he ever came across a problem he couldn't solve he could just contact the spirits of a long dead president for advice.

I'm picking up an J or maybee a G. Does the name Gerald mean anything to any one? No wait...It's jeff, no, Gene, wait... I've got it George. Does that mean anything? Yes? Why its Mr. Washington. He wants to tell us he loves us and everything will be fine.
 
Posted by Kasie H (Member # 2120) on :
 
I like John Edwards instinctively, too....I have to take a look at more of his policies.

And he definitely looks like he's about 32. My jaw just about hit the floor when I found out he was 50.
 
Posted by Sopwith (Member # 4640) on :
 
Please do look into him more, he's a very interesting and well thought-out fellow. I'm very happy and surprised to see him being more of a take control candidate in the primaries.

His plans are great, without being earthshaking. There's a good dose of common sense in the man, and I like his stance on the incredible amount of lobbying that has so corrupted our system.

Long enough in the Senate to see the problem, not in long enough to be part of that problem.

Let's here it for moderate reform!
 
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
 
[Laugh] beatnix. I was thinking the exact same thing.
 
Posted by Dag (Member # 5128) on :
 
Ah Edwards is an interesting story. Being a North Carolina resident, I have seen and heard my share of him. From the start of his career in politics, his eye has been on the presidency. He became a senator here (running as a "conservitive democrat" yet now votes with ol' Teddy on everything, that conservitive word is tricksy I suppose), and since he was elected he has been on the campaign trail.
The man really hasn't done anything here in NC at all and his approval rating as senetor shows this (most of the time below 40 percent approval). When I say nothing, I mean nothing. It seems as though he has spent more time Iowa and NH than he has in the state he represents! He dosn't even stay in Washington that much! The real problem, or at least one of the many, is that he has no experience at all.
The man was an ambulance chaser for a large part of his life and then a senetor for a very short time. I know he says the right words when it comes to the economy and foreign policy (the areas most people think he is ignorant about) but talking about them and actually putting them into action is very different.
Edwards has everything going for him though; he is young, pretty, and has that "oh so delightful!" southern accent. I woudln't be surprised (though he has denided it) a Kerry - Edwards ticket. This would pose a very big and evident threat to W. Scary thought...

[ January 23, 2004, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: Dag ]
 
Posted by Kasie H (Member # 2120) on :
 
Aaah!! I like the sound of that!

Kerry-Edwards 2004....

I'm in.
 
Posted by Jeni (Member # 1454) on :
 
I thought you were a hard-core Dean supporter, Kasie?

I've been a supporter of Edwards since I learned about him a few months ago, for the same reasons as Sopwith. I'd love to have him get the nomination, but would be more than willing to settle for a Kerry-Edwards ticket.

Though I must admit I was slightly dissapointed with the recent news of attack methods in his instructions for campaigners...
 
Posted by Tresopax (Member # 1063) on :
 
Edwards is too political to be affective against Bush in this election - too much playing to the crowd. He's also too weak on the Iraq War - that would hurt him.

But, I can see him as an effective VP, especially given he's from the south.
 
Posted by Kasie H (Member # 2120) on :
 
Jeni,

I was. Maybe I still am. I don't really know. I just know I want Bush out of the White House, and the best way to do that may be a Kerry-Edwards ticket.

Originally, I was very drawn to Dean because he seemed to be the only candidate willing to recognize that the youth vote could actually exist, and worked to energize young people. Now that's a little less important to me, I suppose, and some of Kerry's and Edward's more measured positions are beginning to attract my attention.

Plus Edwards is pretty damn cute for being 50.... [Wink]
 
Posted by Rohan (Member # 5141) on :
 
He's 50????? [Confused] Looks like someone made a deal with [Evil Laugh]
 
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
 
Count me in as another probable supporter of John Edwards. I like that he has ideas (see his website), that he's articulate, and that he doesn't come off as condescending.

And honestly, if what I've heard about the campaign book is accurate it dosen't bother me that much. It would be stupid not to have some canned answers to opponents' positions for campaign workers. The language I heard that it contained didn't seem nearly as nasty as what I'm used to hearing in campaigns. I also like that Edwards, while claiming that he didn't know about it (who knows whether he did or not), he didn't pussyfoot around but took responsibility immediately and without whining about it. How often do we hear that from politicians these days?

I could live with a Kerry-Edwards ticket, but Kerry makes me a bit uncomfortable, for reasons I haven't quite pinpointed yet. Like his wife, though. Good, outspoken woman. Don't know if I agree with all of her positions, but I like a political wife who can step out of that subservient role that most people seem to want in a First Lady. She makes Hillary Clinton look like a traditional political wife. [Smile]

Now, I have to say that I never have been comfortable at all with Dean - he just seems way too condescending to me. I was not very impressed, either, with that strange speech Monday night in Iowa.
 
Posted by Scott R (Member # 567) on :
 
Edwards makes the point that as a member of the Intelligence commitee, he has more foreign affairs experience than Reagan and Clinton had when they took the Oval Office.

[ January 24, 2004, 12:26 PM: Message edited by: Scott R ]
 
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
 
Education is a big topic for me, since I'm going to college next year, I was reading about his stance on education: http://www.johnedwards2004.com/education.asp

Would this actually work, or would it just lower the quality of education at public schools? I think it sounds great, but I'm not sure how practical it is, or whether I'd rather tution was just lowered across the board.
 
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
 
I don't know how to put this, put Kerry is not photogenic. I think this will probably be a big negative should he get the nomination.
 
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
 
Most of the Ed plans look decent enough, and not likely to ruin anything. The loan plan, however, looks like a recipe for ruin: the government has an atrocious record of running loan programs.
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
I was leaning towards Kerry, too...but parts of his "100 Days to Change America" plan really ticked me off.

Mainly, the part about mandatory community service for high school students. I thought his idea of free four-year tuition in exchange for two years of service was a good idea, but making it compulsory for graduation is too much.

And partly because he supports getting rid of tax cuts for the rich and instead giving them to the middle class. I'd rather it be one way or the other--take the cuts away from everyone or no one.

That, and he's way too pro-choice for me. While I think abortion is necessary at this point in time, I don't think it's a right protected by the Constitution.

Maybe I'll have to do some more research on Edwards.
 


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