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Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
I drink Pop. What about you?

[ January 31, 2004, 03:50 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Pop!!!!
 
Posted by MidnightBlue (Member # 6146) on :
 
I drink Soda.
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
I definitely drink soda.
 
Posted by Zotto! (Member # 4689) on :
 
Silly young 'uns. They're both battery acid.

*gulps down nice, cold glass of agua*
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
I call it Coke. It's Diet Pepsi, but I call it Coke.

[ January 31, 2004, 03:54 PM: Message edited by: lcarus ]
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Actually, I agree with you, Zotto. I don't much like Pop, but at least I call it by its proper name.
 
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
 
Soda

Zotto [Razz]
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
Of COURSE it's soda! Pop is just some cheap imitation. [Wink]
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
I'm telling Moose you said that!

But it's definitely pop. Pop is a much better way to describe it. Or do the little bubbles in your bottle "soda"? Hmm?

[ January 31, 2004, 05:21 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
 
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
 
quote:
I call it Coke. It's Diet Pepsi, but I call it Coke.
[Confused]

That's like calling your Ford a Saturn, because you call all cars Saturns. IT may be a Ford, it may be a Saturn, but it's not BOTH. But they ARE both Cars.

And both Coke and Pepsi (Diet and Otherwise) belong to the class of drink called SODA.

Although I usually refer to them individually. If I want a Vanilla Coke, I ask for a Vanilla Coke. If I want Sprite Remix, I ask for Sprite Remix. Etc.
 
Posted by Fishtail (Member # 3900) on :
 
Although I don't drink it very often anymore, I call it soda.

What in the world is a Sprite Remix?
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
It's a new fruity Sprite.
 
Posted by Koga (Member # 5646) on :
 
Soft drinks, or drinks, though my dad calls soft drinks pop, and I probably have at times too, or soda more often that.
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
Tonic.

-Bok
 
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
 
For more info about this, and other dialect differences:

http://hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/staticmaps/q_105.html

-Bok
 
Posted by dawnmaria (Member # 4142) on :
 
I'm with lcarus.
It's a coke regardless of what type of soda it really is. Guess I'm weird. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
 
These threads always depress me....
quote:
I don't much like Pop. . . .
quote:
Pop is just some cheap imitation.
*sigh* I'd just stick with preferring iced tea, but then I might unknowingly offend a rapper somewhere.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
I was just about to go find that map again, Bok.

I can prouldy say that I am part of the soda-drinking majority.
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Awww... I love you, Pop. [Big Grin]

[ January 31, 2004, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: Ryuko ]
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
(((((Pop)))))

I didn't mean you. *pat pat* I love you too, you're awesome.
 
Posted by Sugar+Spice (Member # 5874) on :
 
I call it 'fizzy'
But that's just 'cause I'm British.
 
Posted by Maccabeus (Member # 3051) on :
 
I drink pop...I think. I haven't used a generic term in several years.
 
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
 
Soda! Definitely soda. Of course, Pepsi and Coke belong to the soda subgroup known as "cola".
 
Posted by Mintieman (Member # 4620) on :
 
Pop is what you call bad music, soft drink is what you drink [Razz]
 
Posted by fiazko (Member # 5812) on :
 
Am I the only one who says beverage? That's only because when I went to Kentucky to school after growing up in PA, I got tired of arguing with all the "soda" people.
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
Hee Hee! Had this argument with a friend from Boston who came to Kansas a couple years ago and was shocked that we called it Pop! She promptly tried to get all of us to change how we said it, to "soda".

The store clerk wouldn't know what we were talking about if we said "soda."

"soda" is baking soda.

Farmgirl
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
Um. Fizzy drinks?

[Smile]
 
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
 
All good people call it "pop."
 
Posted by kwsni (Member # 1831) on :
 
awwww, bok, you posted my link.

I drink pop except when i'm around people who drink soda. even then i sometimes revert.

Ni!
 
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
 
Soda, although most of my history of places that i have dwelled should lead me to say pop but i don't.

i remember a conversation way back in middle school with jamie about how all these southern people call every soda a "coke" regardless of color or flavor. it's quite sad really.
 
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
It's a coke. I know it doesn't make sense, but my Diet Dr. Pepper is referred to as a coke.

Our new youth director is from Buffalo NY, and we are working hard to teach him how to talk. He actually used the word pop once when addressing the congregation. He was quickly corrected. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Javert (Member # 3076) on :
 
My question to you, Farmgirl, is why you need to ask the store clerk where the soda is? If you can't find the soda on your own, you have bigger problems than calling soda "pop" or "coke". [Wink]
 
Posted by Koga (Member # 5646) on :
 
I think I call drinks, soft drinks or by their proper names because it was the only way my parents could compromise on what to call them. My dad being from Indiana calls all soft drinks "pop", hence pop, diet pop, pop machines, pop cans etc. I've noticed this seems big in the midwest, which explains why my dad being from Indiana takes that stance. My mom is from Kentucky, and as seems to be popular here (and among many other people I've met fromt he south) all soft drinks are "cokes", drink machines are coke machine, all alluminum cans are coke cans, and even if it is because we need to buy more Diet Mountain Dew Code Red, we have to stop and get some cokes. Sense this clearly always threw off Dad who for some reason assumed that she meant CocaCola when she said things like "please, hand me a coke". So now they are soft drinks, because Mom doesn't call them pop very often, and calling all soft drinks cokes seems to get to Dad (always corrects me when I call a drink machine a coke machine if it isn't actually a coke machine).

Now the new queastion, why did I write so much about what to called carbonated beverages? [Dont Know]
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
I REALLY WANT some diet mtn dew code red. No one has it here. [Frown]
 
Posted by Ben (Member # 6117) on :
 
i love Big Red soda but cannot find it here.
 
Posted by MyrddinFyre (Member # 2576) on :
 
::thwacks goat::

SODA [Wink]
 
Posted by Mr.Funny (Member # 4467) on :
 
Liquid Crack.

Ok, maybe not.

Pop, mostly. [Dont Know]
 
Posted by Koga (Member # 5646) on :
 
next time there is a gathering of hatrackers there should be an exchange of stuff that is hard to find/buy in different areas, as the diet code red seems to be hard to find for some people, and I'm sure there is more.
 
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
 
In the South, all carbonated beverages are Cokes (Co-Cola if you were born before 1950). Since most types of Coke (including Pepsi) were invented in the South, our nomenclature is the proper one. [Wink]
 
Posted by Livious (Member # 2326) on :
 
In my family, we call them mix.

Outside I usually stick to proper names, as I'm not wild about any of the options. If absolutely necessary, pop or soft drinks are acceptable.
 
Posted by Jexxster (Member # 5293) on :
 
Um, can I call it both? I just sort of switch back and forth, I honestly cannot recall favoring one over the other.
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
Soda!
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I fell in love with soda from Europe while I was in France last week. Orange soda without all the extra sugar! Somebody send me some...it's addictive.

[ February 01, 2004, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: pH ]
 
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
 
Orangina?
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Not voluntarily. o_O
 
Posted by pH (Member # 1350) on :
 
I don't know what it's called...I mostly just like, babbled something about orange.

That stuff. Fanta! Orange Fanta is my new favourite. But all the soda here sucks. And French McDonald's beats American McDonald's hands-down, strangely enough.

*absolutely _had_ to try French McDonald's*
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
Soda! Definitely soda. Of course, Pepsi and Coke belong to the soda subgroup known as "cola".
Exactly!

And a "pop machine" is a microwave.
 
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
 
Pop. Only pop, unless I am ordering a specific brand name. But all carbonated beverages can be referred to as "pop" unless there is alcohol involved.
 
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
 
I drank Pop when I was growing up in Southern California.

Now that I live in Central California, I drink Soda. When I drink it. The past few years, however, I drink mostly water.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
I drank Pop when I was growing up in Southern California.

Where in SoCal?? The only people I know around here who say "pop" are (some of the) Eastern imports. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MidnightBlue (Member # 6146) on :
 
Anyone who doesn't call it soda is just wrong.
*sits back and waits for everyone to agree*
 
Posted by Nick (Member # 4311) on :
 
I call it soda. Most in California do. [Smile]

Why don't we combine pop and soda?

Soda pop? What a great new idea! I don't think anybody has ever called it that before! [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
 
Rivka...Simi Valley, in Ventura County.

Actually, I can't remember what everyone else called it, so my calling it Pop may be a relic of my mother's Okie/Arkie background. [Smile] (She is really, truly an "Okie from Muskogee", having been born there; but then her family moved to Arkansas when she was a few months old. Hence the "slash" designation for her background.)
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
I know a few Venturans. Pretty sure they all say soda. Musta been your mom. 'Sok -- my dad still says some stuff with the Brooklyn accent he was brought up with. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cochick (Member # 6167) on :
 
I go with Fizzy - again like Sugar & Spice I'm British

In our house someone usually just shouts "drink" (joke from Father Ted) when ever someone else goes in the Kitchen
 
Posted by littlemissattitude (Member # 4514) on :
 
Could be that, Rivka. On the other hand, you have to keep in mind that this was a long time ago, and the terminology could have changed. I haven't lived in Southern California since 1978, after all.

Ouch. That made me feel old. [Wall Bash]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Well, but I've been here since late 1980, and I don't remember ever hearing "pop" from anyone who was a native. [Smile]
 
Posted by Maccabeus (Member # 3051) on :
 
Of course! Ms. M is right! I'd forgotten all about it, as I never use the generic name anymore.

But all carbonated beverages are coke. Even Pepsi.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
I suppose it's not really that different from calling all facial tissues Kleenex, but it still strikes me as weird. What do you say when you want an actual Coke? Do you have to call it a Coca-Cola to make it clear?
 
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
 
If you're in a restaurant in the South, they'll usually ask you what kind of Coke you want. If you want an actual Coke, you just say "Coke" again. If you want a Diet Coke, you say "Diet," and if you want a Sprite, you say 'Clear."
 
Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
 
Ah, of course. It's coke. "Anybody want a coke? I'm going down to get one."
"Sure, get me one!"
"What kind?"
"Coke."
"Got it."
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
If I want a "cola", I ask for a coke. If the place serves Pepsis products (most places serve one or the other, not both), they'll bring you a Pepsi. If I want diet cola, I ask for a diet coke. Same thing - they'll bring a Diet Pepsi. Anything after that, I'll specify - Sprite, Mountain Dew, etc.

All cans, no matter what soda was in them, are referred to as coke cans. All machines, even if they only sell Pepsi products, are coke machines.

This is a fact of life because Coke is much better than Pepsi. Whenever people discuss these things, a part of their subconscious is truly wishing they were all Coke and that Pepsi did not exist.
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
quote:
And a "pop machine" is a microwave
I have NEVER heard this before, Rivka! Is this purely a California slang?

Farmgirl
 
Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
 
zgator, that's so true! I feel sorry for the poor people out west and up north who have difficulty finding real cokes and have to drink that awful pepsi stuff. (Mountain Dew, though, is pretty good.) Someday I hope they'll discover the problem and fix it, just as they have recently finally discovered the joys of freshly manufactured Krispy Kreme doughnuts. [Smile]

Another thing I realized not long ago that those poor people lack is HUSH PUPPIES! I was shocked and saddened to hear that people in other parts of the country don't know that when you mix cornmeal batter with onions and deep fry blobs of it in very hot Crisco, it results in something very close to the concept of paradise as described by several major religions. [Smile]

[ February 02, 2004, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: ak ]
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
One of my linguistics professors got a strongly worded letter from the Coca Cola mafia (uh, I mean legal department) that Coke is a trademark and not a generic word for carbonated beverage. I think I grew up saying soda

What about bandaid?
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
quote:
That's like calling your Ford a Saturn, because you call all cars Saturns. IT may be a Ford, it may be a Saturn, but it's not BOTH. But they ARE both Cars.
So, if your kleenexes are Scott Tissues or Puffs, you don't call 'em kleenex?

If your fridgidaire is a Maytag or a Kenmore, you don't call it a frigidaire?

If your aspirin is a generic brand (instead of Bayer) you don't call it aspirin?

If your band-aid is from Curity, you don't call it a band-aid?

If your rollerblades aren't from Rollerblade, you don't call them rollerblades?

[Confused]
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
Dang it, why didn't I see that there was a page two?!

[Wall Bash]
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
(I'd promised myself I'd never use that graemlin again . . . [Angst] )
 
Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
 
Why, Icky? Because it's self abusive? [Smile] Well, just turn off the animations and it hurts a lot less.
 
Posted by Soda Moose (Member # 6168) on :
 
Strange to say, I actually call them soft drinks. I do say coke machine, but probably because most of them say coke in large print across the front.

Pop, if you want this name to cheer yourself up you're welcome to it. Just email me and I'll get you the password. This is almost as good as the time I registered the Dread Pirate Davidson.
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
quote:
Someday I hope they'll discover the problem and fix it, just as they have recently finally discovered the joys of freshly manufactured Krispy Kreme doughnuts.
I weep for people who have never had a Krispy Kreme donut right off the line.
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
If I don't want Dr. Pepper, then I ask for a cola. If there's no DP, then who gives a rip what I'm drinking? Unless the choice is between Mountain Dew and crab juice. I'll take the crab juice!

Hey: I was in Savannah last summer and I found out that the Krispy Kreme rights have been sold to every US city with at least 100,000 people. They're still workin' on 50,000.

Here in Tucson we just got KK last YEAR...I had to drive to Phoenix for my donuts!

[ February 02, 2004, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: PSI Teleport ]
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
Yeah, we've only got them stored in boxes in Prescott.
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Hey, it's worth the drive. How far are you from Phoenix?
 
Posted by MidnightBlue (Member # 6146) on :
 
quote:
If your fridgidaire is a Maytag or a Kenmore, you don't call it a frigidaire?

Um... actually I call it a refridgerator, or a fridge. Maybe a fridgerator, but that's only if I'm not thinking normally. I don't think I've ever called it a frigidaire.
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
quote:
I feel sorry for the poor people out west and up north who have difficulty finding real cokes and have to drink that awful pepsi stuff.
Is Coca-Cola different in the South? 'Cause we have it out West. And you know, some of us prefer Pepsi to that nasty, bitter, cough-syrupy Coke stuff.
 
Posted by TheTick (Member # 2883) on :
 
Soda is obviously correct. Though I had to laugh when our waiter at the local Chinese place asks customers "You want some Pop-Soda?".
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Does anyone else here consider Pepsi and Coke to be two completely different drinks that should be served with different foods? I like coke with fried chicken, and pepsi with pizza. Like white wine and red wine, only...more similar.
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
PSI Teleport: Prescott is 96 miles from Phoenix. It usually takes an hour and a half to an hour and forty-five minutes to get there. But i know it's worth it; I've had it before. Although, coincidentally, I actually had it first in the LA area while on vacation.

Flag may have them fresh-made too. I've never checked.

And about your other question:

Sort of, though I like Coke with both fried chicken and pizza. Pepsi is my preference for snack foods, like potato chips, though.
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
quote:
quote:
And a "pop machine" is a microwave
I have NEVER heard this before, Rivka! Is this purely a California slang?
*sigh* It was a bad joke. Microwave popcorn being one of the most common uses of most microwaves . . .
 
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
 
Don't worry, rivka. We call vacuums "sucky sweepers" in my family and we all think it's hilarious.
 
Posted by Yebor1 (Member # 1380) on :
 
I have always called it a coke no matter what brand it was. My grandma use to get on to me when I was a kid and tell me to call it a soda or a cola. I didnt listen. That is probably one of the things she said or did that she did not have a major influence on me.
of course she also told me that watching commecials was silly but I like commecials and get a kick out of them.
 
Posted by Jill (Member # 3376) on :
 
They're all coke.
 
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
 
I'm with Mintieman.. it's soft drink.

Mind you, over here everyone calls them "soft drink" or "softies"...none of that pop or soda nonsense! [Smile]

That, together with the fact Minties are a (I think) typically Australian sweet - Mintieman, are you an Aussie in disguise?
 
Posted by Sopwith (Member # 4640) on :
 
Soda...
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
I drank pop when I lived in NC, soda in CA, pop in ID, soda in KS, soda in NY, soda in FL, soda in VT, and pop in LA.

I could never actually bring myself to call it pop, but I did my best not to laugh at those who did.
 


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