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Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
I know some of you remember that forum a while back that decided to create alter egos and post on other people's forums.

I have observed at least three people on here right now, that seem suspect. They have joined at different dates but all have relatively low post counts. Many post frequently several posts behind one of the other suspicious posters.

All of them seem to avoid any direct answers to questions involving facts or appear to be generating "facts" on the spot.

Anyone else noticed this? Or am I becoming really loony and paranoid in my old age?
[Eek!]
GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

[Wink]

AJ

At the same time we have some pretty darn cool newbies too. Skillery has shown a lot of graciousness and class for one, after a bit of a rocky start on the other side.

[ March 02, 2004, 12:51 AM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
A while back meaning more than a year? I'm kind of lazy about facts, but whatever my intentions coming here I've been hooked.
 
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
 
Stop kidding yourselves. You're all a bunch of freaking newbies. I don't trust a one of you.
 
Posted by Eaquae Legit (Member # 3063) on :
 
I don't think it was more than a year, since I seem to remember this one very well, and my memory conks out at about a year...

"Anastasia"?
 
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
 
Well, I'm a newbie. What exactly am I being accused of, and I didn't do it.
 
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
 
Back in your box, newbie.
 
Posted by Koga (Member # 5646) on :
 
I don't beleive it was a year ago either, I recall the name "Anastasia", and the word "tupanny" or something like that, so it wasn't all that long ago.

(I gave up posting here for lent, guess I didn't do to well so far)
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
I've never been labelled a "cool newbie".

This fact has been brought to you by the letters F and U.

Anyway, I agree about the newest newbies. Some fine pickin's recently, some fine pickin's. Beverly and skillery 'specially.

[EDIT: and Anthro. Those aren't the three you're talking about, right?]

[ March 02, 2004, 12:54 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
I know what you mean. Like the one who has been insulting in nearly every thread, and recently warned a newbie to beware of us old trolls. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
Speaking of newbies... link and second link

[ March 02, 2004, 09:10 AM: Message edited by: Anna ]
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
Especially the old trolls that seem to have less than 400 posts.
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
AWWW You figured me out!

*goes back to HarryPotter.com*
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Sorry if this turns out as a double post. I just noticed what's going on at the other side. Wow. Almost every thread is started by someone I've never heard of.
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
There's often newbies on the other side. It's less quick and there's less people so it's easier for them to understand what happens, I guess. I started there too.
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Well, that's true. I started there too, but only because I didn't know this side existed.
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
digging_holes, you are automatically a cool newbie, you're Canadian. [Wink]

A lot of the sorts I'm talking about have absolutely no info in their profile. I can understand not giving an e-mail address but most people (like digging_holes) do put location and a few random interests down.

Though I suppose if they are reading this thread they will now add such things.

AJ
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
There was also a Nubian Princes or queen or something as I recall during that *incident*. One of the screen names I've been seeing was actually registered about that time last fall.

AJ
 
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
 
Slash: --I--
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
I hope I'm not one of those obnoxious newbies that y'all are talking about.
 
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
 
i must be the village idiot. i have no idea what this thread is about.
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
nope and your wife is also delightful.

AJ
 
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
Hmm... you know, I never did change the profile ae had on this account before I took it. Aside from adding my E-mail address so I could get a personalized insult from Frisco.
I almost feel like I should change it, but it still doesn't feel like it's man to change. Like it'd make me less incognito.
 
Posted by T_Smith (Member # 3734) on :
 
Da_Goat, I've never really thought of you as a newbie, but not a veteran either. Sorry.

If it makes you feel any better, I don't recall the term 'cool newbie' as a way to describe me either. And now look at me. Actually, I've never heard the term cool used to describe me here. What's going on, guys?!
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
This is off-topic, but I didn't want to start a separate thread, and I cannot find the answer in the faq.

Can I change my displayed name with this same logon? If so, how?
 
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
 
I think I asked the same question shortly after I joined, and the answer was no.

But that's okay, because now I've kinda gotten used to using this screen name and everyone knows me by it.

Farmgirl
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
I asked the question as well, because I didn't want to lose my posts at the time. I got this resounding answer: "You're an idiot."

I just changed screen names.
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Well, I *am* an idiot (especially if you go by the original meaning of the word), so if you were to tell me that it wouldn't be a big revelation.

But no, I have felt quite welcomed here. I must say that this is not an ordinary net forum. That's a good thing. [Smile]
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
AJ, I've been thinking exactly the same thing. This much misunderstanding just has to be deliberate on someone's part.

*shrug

At least it's kept some interesting people posting. (And welcome to skillery, mr_porteiro_head, and beverly. [Smile] )

[ March 02, 2004, 11:20 AM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
CT, judging from your posts I think your radar has been going off on exactly the same people mine has.

AJ
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
porteiro,

I didn't mean that everyone thought I was an idiot (although maybe they did). I think they were just refering to my hesitance to lose my post count, which was, after all, only about 100 or so.

Hey, and porteiro isn't THAT much of a newbie. He's been around longer than PSI, anyway. *points to registration date*

edit: Anna, can you be on AIM right now, or no?

[ March 02, 2004, 11:25 AM: Message edited by: PSI Teleport ]
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Yep. But then again, someone who is not authentically vested in some way will eventually fade out. It isn't worth the trouble, otherwise.

We almost kept Anastasia, if I remember correctly. Who knows? Maybe these players will get converted to the Church of Bob, too. Hatrack is just that way. [Smile]

[ March 02, 2004, 11:29 AM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Oh, I'm not concerned about keeping my meager post count. It will never be high, at least compared to the others here.

I just didn't want to appear like I was trying to pull the wool over anybody's eyes.
 
Posted by Kyle Katarn (Member # 3567) on :
 
Hmm, I wonder if you are thinking of me. Probably not, as usual. *sigh*
 
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
 
Thank you for the warm welcome.

quote:
Da_Goat: This fact has been brought to you by the letters F...
When talking to customers on the phone, I am often asked to spell the name of my parent company: DAIFUKU. I have to spell it fast to avoid being offensive.

I usually hang out on a few tech-oriented yahoo groups, but this is the first time I've participated in a web community. I've got a lot to learn, like that *narrative* stuff and the proper use of emoticons. It's fun.
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Can I call you suki-rari?
 
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
 
quote:
Can I call you suki-rari?
Sure, but I was thinking more along the lines of "jouzu." Yeah, right. [Blushing]
 
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
 
I shall always be a newbie, and will never die.

I'm downloading my consiousness into an AI that will confuse civilization for centuries!

And to think, it all started here....
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Aaa, Sukiirarisan wa jouzu desu ne!
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
This would probably be the thread to say that nothing says "welcome" like to a newbie like the accusation you're really somone banned from Hatrack - just coming in under a new screen name.

I wouldn't want to embarrass Ick, so I won't say he welcomed me that way. [Big Grin] [Razz]
 
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
 
[Embarrassed]

I didn't accuse you . . . I asked you with tongue in cheek!
.
.
.
.
.
It's not my fault KACard took it seriously!

[Embarrassed]
 
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
 
I *still* think SNDRAKE is Baldar.

Or possibly Anastasia.
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
Sorry PSI, at work, no AIM [Frown]

I'm not targeting this at specific newbies. I've made some generalizations, but there does seem to be a disturbing pattern. I haven't named any specific names at all.

And maybe this is just hatrack conspiracy thread #54 and there is nothing to it, and I'm tilting at windmills.

(I'll e-mail you from my work addy though)

AJ

[ March 02, 2004, 01:13 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
quote:
I *still* think SNDRAKE is Baldar.

Or possibly Anastasia.

Those are lies!

Baldar-faced lies!

(being patient with Slash, who appears to have gone on a diet. Not eating too many people these days, I guess.) [Wink]
 
Posted by advice for robots (Member # 2544) on :
 
My posts are actually written by an infinite number of monkeys. I hope you still like me (us).
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
speaking of diets, I don't know if it is the recent weather change or what, but I haven't been nearly as hungry recently. Used to eat two nutrigrain bars and 17 oz of water for breakfast, today I had to force myself to eat one and only finished half the water. (and no it isn't the nutrigrain bars getting old on the taste buds, I'm the sort of person that if I find something I like I can eat it every day without any variety)

AJ
 
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
 
Wow. To think I went to bed last night thinking no one loved me, and I come back to find I've been labeled a cool newbie. [Blushing]

Thanks, AJ (can I call you AJ?).

I love Canada. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
Canada: the 51st state
[Razz]
AJ
 
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
 
Sadly, I sometimes agree. But I don't hold it against you.
 
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
 
Nah, only Alberta could be considered a state.

And digging_holes is clearly one of *those* Qubecers. I mean, he's even got the accent in Quebec.

Vive La Bloque!
 
Posted by Thread Killa (Member # 4398) on :
 
Vive la Canuckistan!
 
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
 
Well, french will always have this over english: it has funny squiggles over the letters. We are way behind the spanish and the scandinavians, but at least we got 'em! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
 
Yes, but french is the language that uses three times the letters it needs.

At least we only use twice what we need.
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
quote:
I didn't accuse you . . . I asked you with tongue in cheek!
.
.
It's not my fault KACard took it seriously!

[Big Grin]

Hey, we're cool.

This story is fun to tell. And retell. [Big Grin]

Please don't ever leave, though. Most of the fun would be sucked out if you weren't around to read it. [Smile]
 
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
 
But no squiggles. [Frown]

Ènglish wöuld bé sô much more intérêsting îf we wrôte it like thïs, nô?
 
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
 
AJ, could you add me to that email?
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
[ROFL] So fun to see you speak French ! And I mean it in the most respectfull way. [Smile]
 
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
 
Je vous en prie, tout le plaisir est pour moi. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
on its way celia
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
I am one of those who put very little in my profile. There is a certain amount of protection in the anonymity of internet communication, for I have seen things go sickly awry. But I like this forum (I second what my husband Porter has said) it is soooo much classier than what I have seen out there in my small experience. I wouldn't mind at all sharing more of myself here. For instance, beverly is NOT my real name, it is Mary Cate. I was trying to come up with something on the spot, and I was thinking of the character Beverly Crusher from STNG whom I admire and respect.
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
<bites tongue over obvious joke I'm sure you heard before>
 
Posted by Rhaegar The Fool (Member # 5811) on :
 
I'm just an opinionated jackass.

Rhaegar
 
Posted by aka (Member # 139) on :
 
Hurray for people with two names for a first name! [Smile]

<--- Anne Kate
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Actually, Mary Cate is technically my nickname. My first name is Mary and my middle name is Catherine. Uber doober Catholic sounding, ne? I like it though.
 
Posted by aka (Member # 139) on :
 
Mine is Anne Catherine, in fact. But what I mean is that you go by Mary Cate instead of just plain Mary. [Smile] (Mine is Catholic too, I guess, though I never thought of it that way.)

[ March 02, 2004, 03:44 PM: Message edited by: aka ]
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
Cool! I guess that's the case with most two-first-namers.
 
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
 
If someone *were* to visit my profile and if someone were to visit Orem, and they did pronounce it that way, and they got laughed at, please don't hate me.
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
I just about squished John L's head for being an uppity newbie. But I'm glad I choose the road less taken on that one, when I found out he was of the "made over oldbie" variety. Not like he would hate me less if I had done that.

So are we pretty much safe taking the name of OSC-fan in vain here?

P.S. Da_Goat, Nathan can tell you it's much better to be hot than cool.

[ March 02, 2004, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
 
Posted by Brian J. Hill (Member # 5346) on :
 
I don't know what to consider myself. I've been registered since June, so I'm not particularly "new." Yet my post count is so low it's kinda pathetic.

I don't know why I don't post more often. I've been thinking about this for a while now, and have come up with a few possible reasons. First, I don't feel like I have the time to draft a coherent point that wasn't better made by someone else. I type slow; I compose even slower. Second, I have this irrational fear that my viewpoints will offend someone, so I'd rather let someone else say them. A third reason is I don't seem to catch the threads until they've pretty much died, and I kill them off. Another reason is I use my own real name as my handle (actually, this happened accidentally when I put my name in the wrong field during my registration) so I don't want anything I say to be stupid.

I have a question for other people who have been registered for a long time but have low post counts. I've just listed some of my reasons why I don't post often. What are some of yours?
 
Posted by scottneb (Member # 676) on :
 
OSC-fan damnit!

Naw, it doesn't really roll off the tongue that well.
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
Now I'm posting a lot, but at first I didn't really dare, first because things are going very quick here and my English wasn't as good as it is now, in terns of reading speed, and people here knew each other since such a long time I was always afraid not to understand a private joke. Now I know I'm doomed to not understand some private jokes, but I'm OK with it, and I know more people, and I'm reading English faster.

[ March 02, 2004, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: Anna ]
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
By the way Brian, you can always choose a new screen name. You will lose your post count, but that shouldn't bother you.
 
Posted by Brian J. Hill (Member # 5346) on :
 
quote:
people here knew each other since such a long time I was always afraid not to understand a private joke
I had that worry for a while, but, like you, I got over it. Same with the screen name issue. I guess Anonymity ain't all its cracked up to be. Yet still, being totally out in the open sometimes makes me hesitant to post my opinions.
 
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
 
After a while, I am so Anna that I sometimes hesitate to post in fear to shame that name [Smile]
 


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