I have to say, I love this movie, at first you may think, oh, another rip off of Farenheit 451, but no. It may be similar in parts, but the plot is smooth, the acting good, the dialogue original, and about all, the fight sequences are great. And I have an obsession for Sean Bean, and Christian Bale is always good too, oh and for some other contingents of our crowd, Taye Diggs. I recommend to all Hatrackers.
[ March 02, 2004, 03:50 PM: Message edited by: Rhaegar The Fool ]
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I haven't seen it, but it looked like it was just a ripoff of the matrix. Or am I thinking of a different movie?
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
It seems everyone has been discovering this movie lately. I enjoyed it a lot - too bad it had to have a totally weak and empty ending.
It certainly isn't a Matrix Ripoff, even though that's what the ads - and costume design - may make it look like. It's actually much better written than the Matrix films, IMNSHO.
Apart from the look, nothing else really in common at all.
[ March 02, 2004, 03:53 PM: Message edited by: Taalcon ]
Posted by Rhaegar The Fool (Member # 5811) on :
MPH Oh hah sorry no pun intended. NO not a ripoff of the Matrix. Just a kick ass movie, very well done.
Rhaegar
Posted by A Rat Named Dog (Member # 699) on :
Yeah, a couple of guys were talking about it at work yesterday, both having seen it recently. Is some video-rental place starting to hype it or something?
Anyway, I really liked it ... though it's been too long to remember exactly why Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
No, not a ripoff of Matrix. Just a ripoff of 1984, Brave New World, Farehnheit 451, etc...
Posted by Taalcon (Member # 839) on :
Yeah, Stider pretty much pinned it down.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
I just saw it. Strider is correct, but that didn't stop me from enjoying it.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
Don't get me wrong, I think the movie is good. though i thought it could've been better.
It's that people keep talking about it like it's this crazy original idea that no one has ever thought of before. When really it's just a mix of all the distopian future books we read when we were younger, thrown together and assembled in a coherent manner. With an added martial art fighting style(which was really really cool).
oh, and the ending did bother me too. it was just so cheesy. it could've been alot better just by changing that one thing.
[ March 04, 2004, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: Strider ]
Posted by Alucard... (Member # 4924) on :
I too just caught this movie by mistake while flipping through the movie channels.
I enjoyed the huge cast of recognizable actors, and Strider did sum up the content of the movie. I too must also second the coolness of the evolution of martial arts. I have a feeling the movie was German-produced, which would explain much cinematically, but have not taken the time to research it, but I hope other Hatrackers have seen this movie other than the small list above me!
[ August 02, 2004, 02:31 AM: Message edited by: Alucard... ]
Posted by AeroB1033 (Member # 6375) on :
It was pretty derivative, but an extremely well-told story once you got past your initial disbelief and deja vu. Very engaging, good directing, acting, and writing. I'd highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it (you should be able to find a copy at movie rental places).
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
I have also seen it a couple of weeks ago and I loved it. I read Brave New World, Fahenheit 451 and 1984 and I'm glad they've made such a good film that includes the ideas in these dystopias. About the ending: any happy ending showing emotions after an entire film who tried to conceal them would have looked more or less cheesy. I'm glad they did it that way.
As for the fight scenes: a little too streched, but good nonetheless. But then again, I'm the guy who thinks Matrix 2 & 3 are good for the dialogs and the symbolism, and that the fight scenes were unnecessarily long and sometimes quite boring, so don't mind me... Posted by Mabus (Member # 6320) on :
I saw it on tape a few months back. It was not horrible, but to tell the truth I was not enthused. I found it somewhat boring, actually. Unfortunately, I don't entirely remember why--it's been too long.
Posted by Jutsa Notha Name (Member # 4485) on :
I thought it was bad. Not horrible, but entirely derivative. It was derivative plot-wise of 1984, Brave New World, and so on as listed above, but the action sequences are ripped off from the Matrix. Much like Strider said, it is annoying to me to hear the movie described as if it is original and fresh, when there is really nothing original and fresh in it. The plot is not fresh. The dialogue is not original. The action is derivative. The cinematography is unoriginal.
The reason I think people who do like the movie like it so much are the following...
It doesn't suck. The quality of the film doesn't really drop throughout. If you start out with low expectations you won't be wowed, but you won't be disappointed.
It has just enough punching, kicking, and shooting to keep you distracted from its blandness, if you want to be.
The lead characters are attractive. Even for heterosexual males, it is more pleasant to look at a hero and even an antagonist who are easy on the eyes.
Posted by Strider (Member # 1807) on :
quote:About the ending: any happy ending showing emotions after an entire film who tried to conceal them would have looked more or less cheesy. I'm glad they did it that way.
i don't mean that part of it. I'm talking about the whole monitors blowing up all over the place. I can't remember what else happens cause i haven't seen it in a long time, but i remember it being very cheesy. all emotions aside.
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