Obviously he deleted all his posts in the Da-Vinci code, and now he deleted his own thread about us being mean to newbies. What exactly did happen ? Kat ? AJ ? Somenone ?
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
You know as much as I do.
Posted by UofUlawguy (Member # 5492) on :
I think he/she claimed to be a recent convert to the LDS Church, and kat several times expressed her doubts that he/she was in fact LDS. (I could definitely see why, by the way.) I guess he/she took offense.
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
Here's what I was about to post:
Was this why CT started the FAQ thread? I can't tell anymore, the Da Vinci thread doesn't have OSC Fan's posts anymore.
And I can't see anything wrong that you guys posted.
Let me iterate: Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I'm glad someone started this thread.
Now, as I was SAYING:
(_|_)
Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
Some mysteries are meant to remain unsolved. Let it be.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Erik, I was going to link your thread to mine, but obviously you deleted it Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
In all honesty...
...eh, whatever.
<goes back to procrastinating>
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
Anna, your post was both faster and had a better title. Sorry!
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*sings* Trollin', trollin', trollin' alooong . . . ♪
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
How did you see he probably wasn't LDS ?
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
The body piercings and the bottle of tequila he was holding.
[ March 09, 2004, 04:26 PM: Message edited by: Slash the Berzerker ]
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
So did he delete all of his posts?
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
LOL Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
Seems like it
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
I didn't see anything rude in what kat posted. Not that my opinion matters. But I think both she and AJ showed some considerable restraint against someone who was trying to be deliberately rude to them.
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
Slash That was extremely funny.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Wow, that's the fist time a thread I started goes that fast. Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
He also deleted any thread he started, so a fair number of posts by other people went with him.
Must have been something someone said, I guess.
[ March 09, 2004, 04:29 PM: Message edited by: sndrake ]
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
I would do a search but I don't know his number, and i'm to lazy to check all off the numbers after 6000 to see if they're him.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
She erased all her posts.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
More than once I was tempted to denounce OSC-fan as a troll, but I decided against it. This n00b doesn't want to be *too* brash.
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
see, I didn't even know he was a she.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Belle : neither did I, about AJ and kat. Since I can't read OSC-fan posts I can't say about his. But I don't see AJ signal a post that wouldn't be really rude.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Someone did -- either her (him? who really knows?) or our wonderful mods.
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Did that delete the thread he/she started? Bummer. I put a big thank you in there.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
As I said before. I'd had enough. I blew the whistle on him. I've been on the forum for nearly two years, and never had encountered someone as seemingly duplicitous.
I explained in detail that I had no hard evidence of OSC-fan truly violating the TOS, however the person was representing themself as a female older-middle aged recent LDS convert. Several of the things that were actually posted by that same person did not ring true to this, in anyway.
Genuine LDS members doubted the persons veracity, and this person responded rudely. The person had been insulting to me on occasion as well as now branching out and being rude to others. Many gentle suggestions were made and none were acknowledged. No actual facts were given for spurious claims on a number of subjects and then many other honest good souled jatraqueros had to spend time de-bunking fallacies. Though some were so bad that we let them go.
There were instances of several other screen names posting around OSC-fan that also had no info in their profile, though they were of varying registration dates, some as old as October of last year. One of those posted a "goodbye" thread after four or five posts. The entire hatrack attitude was "and why should we care".
I don't know who was trying to dupe whom, but things were definitely rotten in Denmark.
AJ
[ March 09, 2004, 04:32 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
He was a she ?
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
Wow, that was cool.
OSC shouldn't have advertised his online community in the acknowledgements of Crystal City. (That's why I joined.) You old-sters weren't ready for the huge influx of newbies.
It's better if folks just discover this place on their own, and not come in expecting smiley-faced, rolly-polly Mooses and Squirrels from OSC fiction-land.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Then evidently, AJ, you have not crossed paths with the infamous TomDavidson, leader of the secret jatraquero liberal cabal, who revisits his posts and edits them to make subsequent posters look stupid!
...or you've just never seen Cedrios.
Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
maybe heshe was a hermaphrodite(sp?).
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
AJ, that's what I said. I don't know what happened exactly, but I trust you not to signal a post that wouldn't deserve to be.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:How did you see he probably wasn't LDS ?
What Slash said.
.....
In all seriousness, I'm not sure. Now that the posts are gone, I can't go over them again.
I think it was the sense of antagonism. In the posts, it felt like the church was the enemy, a stranger - something to fight, but not something understood. For active LDS, that's very, very rare. For those who were active and are having doubts, fighting with the church like a divorce. It is anything but impersonal. For those who are recent converts, why would you get baptized feeling that way? Self-identifying as Mormon but treating the church as the enemy just didn't feel right, but if you know the board, posing as LDS does (I admit) give...leeway to ask questions that are rude otherwise. It fit.
[ March 09, 2004, 04:34 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
The thing is, OSC-fan said she was a she, but we all kinda think he was a he, get it?
No one's really sure.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
twinky, you know I've met both TomDavidson and his lovely wife Christy in person right?
And I refer to OSC-fan as "He" because I find it extremely difficult to believe the person was female, though it is possible.
We might be able to ressurect that thread where he was claiming he was going to adopt children, and I asked him not to for the good of society.
AJ
[edit, I'm reading too fast, how could I mix Twinky and bev???]
[ March 09, 2004, 04:39 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:he was claiming he was going to adopt children, and I asked him not to for the good of society.
*snort* And he's mad at me?
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
kat - Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
BTW, I joined because an advertising in an OSC book (one of the Alvin Maker I think). So I wouldn't tell him not to do it... I mean, trolls will leave one day or another, and we gain a number of cool people. I like Derrel who is relatively new for exemple.
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
AJ, please, you can only call me "beverly" when we're alone.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
*giggles at twinky*
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
twinky:
I was also confused.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
It's funnny, I never though about OSC-fan as a woman either .I didn't look in his/her profile, but it was obvious to me he was a he. Sometimes I just don't know (sorry fiazco I know I called you he sometimes) but I was sure about him.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I'm an idiot...
(Anna, I was referring to the twinky/bef foh pah (I like that spelling so much better than faux pas))
[ March 09, 2004, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
quote:OSC shouldn't have advertised his online community in the acknowledgements of Crystal City. (That's why I joined.) You old-sters weren't ready for the huge influx of newbies.
He also mentioned it, and Papa Moose, in one of the Ender or Bean books. That's why I joined.
Posted by msquared (Member # 4484) on :
Maybe Kevin/Cedrios was back again? Isn't it about time for him to surface again?
And AJ Tom is head of the Cabal. It is just that you are a liberal femminist, so you are a member. Christy is the VP.
mquared
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
Thanks Anna. I think you're cool, too. As for OSC-Fan, he wasn't very cool. I've made some newbie mistakes, but try to learn from them so I don't repeat them. OSC-Fan didn't seem to want to listen to anybody's ideas but his own.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
No, you're not ! (to AJ of course. This thread is really fast !)
[ March 09, 2004, 04:42 PM: Message edited by: Anna ]
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
That's why he would have leaved one day or another. When you don't want to communicate but just say what you think, you don't stay in Hatrack. BTW, will we ever heal from the Cedrios psychose ? (Oh, and thank you Derrell)
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
Boy, I usually like newbies.
I like myself after all....
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I was going to congratulate OSC-fan on her longest thread ever.
Oh well.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Usually I do too. I mean, it's funny to learn to know other people and know why they are here and try to guess if they will stay or not. And you meet cool people very often, because that's the type of persons that come here. But sometimes there are trolls.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
m^2 and here I've always characterized myself as a California conservative....
AJ
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Elaine, you're not a newbie!
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
California conservatives belong in the liberal cabaal! Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
You guys have to admit that you are a really tight community and tend to skim over newbie posts.
That newbie will be looking for a response to his/her post and is not going to see anything but emoticons swapped back and forth between insiders.
Then some smart-alek says something like: "listen...did you hear something?" "I didn't hear anything...now what were we talking about?"
So our newbie posts something really outrageous to grab everyone's attention, and then you guys get into a vertical urinating contest with him/her.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
quote:That newbie will be looking for a response to his/her post and is not going to see anything but emoticons swapped back and forth between insiders.
(S)he started it!
[ March 09, 2004, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I've never seen anything describing what you are speaking of, skillery.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
It's hard to get attention here as a newbie because we are a very close community, and (if I may) a community with a high thinking level. But honestly it's worth to. And we are never rude to someone who isn't first. EDIT : PSIT : about the urinating thing, I agree. About not getting attention, it happens, when a newbie starts a thread on a subject we still discussed for exemple. But as I said I never saw a oldie being rude or mean to someone who wasn't first.
[ March 09, 2004, 05:01 PM: Message edited by: Anna ]
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
It's more that newbie's are hyper sensitive to that. For instance, when you first started you joined in a thread that was well rolling and were summarily ignored by just about everyone in it. Not that they were really ignoring you, they were just already involved in a discussion with another member. Most people don't really have the time to respond to everyone who comes in with a question, it's often first come, first serve.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Bob : you said it so much better Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Frankly, when skillery first posted, he displayed no sign that he had read any of the previous posts in that thread -- and his questions were so obviously leading ones that I just assumed he was a troll and ignored him.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
The other thing is that until a person posts enough that I start to know them, I probably don't respond as much. There are lots of newbies that only post once or twice and then vanish. It would be rediculous to become personally invested in each one. When someone says outrageous we (as a forum) tend call them on it once or twice and give them a chance to shape up. Many newbies do exactly that.
I know I posted at first and not that many people said anything. It took me four or five threads topics (and I think I complained too)before I posted one that generated any conversation. I also realized there is no compulsive need to actually start threads, and only do so when I truly have something randomly interesting to share. I do remember Mackillian and Belle making me feel at home though and helping me work through some personal issues at the time. I took a hiatus for a while because computer access was limited during a move, but came back afterward.
I still try not to post on weekends, but often I fail. <grin>
AJ
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
All of OSC-Fan's posts have been deleted, as far as I can tell . . . even those on dead threads. At least, I looked in the first couple of threads I remember her from, and her posts were gone.
I think (s)he's been found out as a troll and deleted by a mod.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Well, sometimes when you are a newbie you have difficulties to catch up with a fast discussion. I had a lot. I try to give benefit of the doubt to each newbie that is not openly rude. Maybe I'm wrong, considering the nature of the internet. *sigh*
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
So I was rude and started a couple of vertical urinating contests when I came on board, and tons of equally rude old-sters came out of the woodwork, and we all got whizzled on.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Icky: Are they that quick? That other thread got deleted really fast, so I assumed she did it.
I'd vertically urinate, but I can't stand on my head.
[ March 09, 2004, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: PSI Teleport ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
quote:I've never seen anything describing what you are speaking of, skillery.
PSI: I don't know if you meant it to be, but this was hilarious.
I do miss Anne Kate and wish she posted more. She's very, very good at oldie/newbie relations. She's the reason I started posting on Hatrack, and the closest I have come to leaving was when she scaled back.
[ March 09, 2004, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Icarus, wouldn't someone tell us if he has been deleted by a mod ? The only time I can remember this happen, it was Cedrios and quasi-everybody knew about it very fast.
[ March 09, 2004, 05:03 PM: Message edited by: Anna ]
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
>> ...it's often first come, first serve. <<
Actually, I'd say it's always that. Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
no I think you are right Anna. I just was beyond the "benefit of the doubt with OSC-fan". Considering no one blew the whistle before now, (and I was thinking that I probably wasn't the first person but I guess I was) the whole forum showed considerable restraint.
AJ
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Thank you, Kat.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
As I said, AJ, I don't suspect you to have been wrong signaling OSC-fan posts. I remember him/her being rude on the other side too, I think. And anyway you are someone to trust. I talked about benefit of doubts about skillery. And maybe it didn't apply to his case either.
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
Boy -- I go away from my computer for a few hours to actually work -- and look what happens while I'm gone! Some really juicy stuff!
(besides the fact that I walked away from my desk to go work in another building for two hours, and when I came back I found my co-worker had just got fired....)
Anyway -- I always thought OSC-fan was a woman because of the comments she/he made in the thread about single women being single by choice, and the books recommended about keeping your husband happpy, etc. So maybe I just fell for the ruse...
Farmgirl
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
A two reasons I thought O.F. wasn't LDS: the obsession with us "stealing" masonic rites. Of course, all my comments on that line appear to have been deleted too, but I've discussed it quasi-civilly with other members like Fugu before. It's natural for someone to be curious, be O.F. seemed to be faking it.
Also, I don't know many converts who refer to the "constaninian" Bible.
And of course there was O.F.s lack of knowledge about the cultural calendar at BYU Kidding about the third one.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I have reached a new threshold.
People know I'm making jokes, even when I don't use j/k . YAY!
This can be my landmark post.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
((PSIT)) Congrats ! Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Ah, crud....I thought that was my 1111th post.
Oh well.
Anna: Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
I was too but I prefer to when I think it's obvious. I find it prettier.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
quote:And anyway you are someone to trust
Why thank you Anna!
Of course it could just be that you have an affinnity towards me since we share the same name in real life
AJ (Anna Jo) (I'm also 1/4 French )
[ March 09, 2004, 05:15 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
I have no memory of anybody being dismissive of me when I was new. I also have made a point of welcoming people when I see a first post. Frankly, I would say that I have never seen an established member be rude to a newbie who wasn't rude first. I agree that newbies sometimes are over-sensitive. Perhaps they are unused to our dynamics and think that every post gets replied to. I've been here for a couple of years, have probably six thousand posts between my main screen names, and I think most of them are thoughtful ones. And probably half of them go unremarked. And it's not that anybody's rude, but that I said something obvious, or something people agree on but feel no need to expound on, or said something that's been said, or said something that people simply had no opinion on whatsoever. This isn't like a real-life conversation, where politeness requires that you acknowledge everything somebody says. Since this is in print, the belief is that one is less likely to not hear things . . . one can just look up and see it in writing if necessary. Honestly, on issue threads, it's counterintuitive to think that people are going to ignore a compelling post because it's by a newbie. The more likely hypothesis is people didn't respond to you because you didn't say anything particularly compelling. That's not harsh. Half of what I say isn't compelling (at least).
Now, it is true that if I post a thread about, say, an audition that went well, or a bad day I had at work, people will post to celebrate with me or express their sympathies. I might get thirty such posts, whereas Bob would get 5 pages, and yes, that is a status symbol. But honestly, what would you expect? If you have thirty posts and you start a thread telling us you got promoted . . . why is it rude if we don't get all emotional over it?
Interestingly enough, most of the newbies I have ever seen complain about old-timer rudeness are newbies I had already come to consider rude. This has happened three or four times in the last couple of weeks, and I recall commenting on the irony of it once.
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
Oh no, they're swapping emoticons again!
[ March 09, 2004, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: skillery ]
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
I swear it's not because of that ! Seriously, I've read a lot of things you posted, and I think you are an honnest person. I really think so. There are some people in Hatrack you feel you could trust even in real life, and you are one of these.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Lcarus
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Exactly, Ic.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Icarus Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
quote: Elaine, you're not a newbie!
When did that happen? I'm less than a year old!
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Anna I was teasing just a little...
Though it is true my name is Anna and I am 1/4 French, though I can't speak a word. The old family name was Laurent, and we even have a coat of arms. Moses (Moises?) Laurent, my great-great-great grandfather, came from France and ended up fighting on the side of the Union in the Civil War. My brothers and I are actually the last surviving members of the family through my grandmother. I think it is pretty cool.
AJ
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Well, I am 1/4 Belgium and can't speak a word Flemmish either. English is better to communicate with a lot of persons anyway.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Elaine: It happens when you're not looking. Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
You know the *real* newbies have no idea that eslaine really isn't elaine and we talked him into going back to his orignal screen name because we all liked the joke.
AJ
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Some people just don't stay newbies very long Elaine. You and sndrake just fit the community so well that within a week of your coming it was as though you'd always been here. Mike is the same way, and quite a few of our most recent crop of newbies strike me as being the same way. I don't want to name names on that, because I'm afraid I'd leave someone out, but I'm incredibly impressed by some of the new people that have found their way here.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Yes, that's right. He's talking about you.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I guess I'm not established enough to be nice to newbies. Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Me?
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
quote:You know the *real* newbies have no idea that eslaine really isn't elaine and we talked him into going back to his orignal screen name because we all liked the joke.
I don’t know if I’m ever going to fit in here. Most of what goes on here isn’t even real, at least not on the surface.
When I get home from work today there’s going to be a half-dozen Cub Scouts beating down my door because the Pinewood Derby is coming up next week. Last year I helped a neighbor kid, whose dad doesn’t come home any more. That kid’s Pinewood Derby car smoked all the other cars, and now everybody wants help. That’s real, and I like being in the middle of it.
If anything real came about as a result of my involvement here, I may never know it.
Please, someone point me to the real stories behind this community.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
What's real is the fun we have making these stories up.
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
quote:Please, someone point me to the real stories behind this community.
Skillery,
the real stories are the people. And pieces of their stories get revealed over time. In all kinds of discussions, from silly fluff to political discussions and everything in between.
Kind of like you just did.
At least that's the way it seems to me.
Posted by T. Analog Kid (Member # 381) on :
yeah... ironic, innit?
Posted by twinky (Member # 693) on :
Indeed.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Because I'm feeling generous: eslaine is Erik Slaine. For some reason we all called him elaine. He pointed out that he was male and changed his screen name to Erik Slaine and we all complained that we liked eslaine better, because he'd already become a fixture under that screen name.
Now calling him Elaine is mostly a sign of affection and a way of telling him we like him. He's very good natured about it too.
AJ
[ March 09, 2004, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*giggle* And he answers to Erika (and Erica) on occasion as well. Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
Did someone say Erika?
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
edit: the page turned
[ March 09, 2004, 06:12 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
I know a roly-poly German couple whose names are Erik and Erica. What is even scarier is that after they were married they researched it and are pretty sure their family tree meshes three or four generations back.
They are a delightful couple, though and I'm going to send them to Icky next time they go to Disney world. They know so much Disney trivia they were offered tour guide jobs on the spot.
AJ
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
So if I hung out here long enough, someone in the forum might actually start to care whether I had Cub Scouts outside my door?
It's real enough to me, but the possibility that someone on the other side of the world might care blows my mind.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
We call him Elaine because of a thread that talked about which gender was denoted by screen names, and alot of people thought eslaine was feminine.
Isn't that correct?
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Jouzo, that's the stuff we care MOST about. For example, you know Bob and Dana are dating in real life, right?
[ March 09, 2004, 06:19 PM: Message edited by: PSI Teleport ]
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
PIST, I think so, I would just consider that an amplification of what I already said though.
And skilliery yes, if you stick around you will find people here who do care about the Cub Scouts outside your door and might even have interesting ideas on how to deal with the crisis.
AJ
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
AJ!
I thought you were trying to be very quiet.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
could you set them up in a production line, having each kid do a more specialized task? or do they each want their cars unique? Do you want to try a couple different design styles from your own ideas?
If they are all the same then it is a pretty even competition of who beats whom... do they realize this?
AJ
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
AJ, you seem to be having a little trouble with names today . . . *pat pat*
*tries not to laugh*
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
*be vewy vewy quiet I'm hunting Wabbits"
Not to be confused with The Rabbit who is a class act!
AJ
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
yes I just got the joke I think I will leave that one just the way it is... Time to leave work before I get even more dyslexic.
AJ
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
*raises hand* I care. I work for the Boy Scouts national office.
Thank you for helping them with the derby. That's great. Did you know if you come to the museum here in Dallas, there is a hands-on derby display?
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
You could even start a pinewood derby thread. I'm sure there are tons of folks with interesting reminisces and suggestions. I bet I'm not the only girl who tried to make them.
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
Okay, I'll start a Pinewood Derby thread. Thanks!
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
quote:You guys have to admit that you are a really tight community and tend to skim over newbie posts.
That newbie will be looking for a response to his/her post and is not going to see anything but emoticons swapped back and forth between insiders.
Then some smart-alek says something like: "listen...did you hear something?" "I didn't hear anything...now what were we talking about?"
So our newbie posts something really outrageous to grab everyone's attention, and then you guys get into a vertical urinating contest with him/her.
skillery, I was going to say that you might want to wait a bit longer than three weeks before passing judgment on a bunch of people that you admit you know very little about. However, that would be a little hypocritical, as I was here a very short time before I was complaining about certain posters. The fact that some of these people were nearly universally disliked and are still invoked as a boogeyman makes little difference.
I can think of only a handful of people around here that get big name recognition, and even fewer that are anywhere near universally liked (I'm certainly not one of them). But everyone who has been here long enough for people to get to know them has found some subgroup of people with whom they get along.
The way to think of Hatrack is not as a business or a group of people that owe you something. We don't. To make an analogy, you wouldn't wander into someone else's lunch and insist they treat you the same as the long-time friends that have lunch with every day. If you are interested in being here, continue posting, and eventually you'll find your niche. If you've already decided we have nothing to offer you, then that's likely true.
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Jake, just for the record, which Mike were you talking about? Because I've finally gotten to the point where I've stopped thinking of myself as a newbie, and I just don't know what I'd do if I had to go back into my little newbie box.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
One way you can avoid that "being skipped over" altogether is to be as inflammatory as possible, apologize like crazy, and refuse to leave.
That's how I did it.
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
saxon, I can think of few people here who get better name recognition than you. I also can't possibly conceive of anybody not liking you; you seem pretty universally liked to me.
-o-
BTW, if you want to assure responses, refer to other posters by name in your posts! Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Do you remember fil who wasn't filletted but they joined at the same time and it was kind of unfortunate? That's skillery. Or at least that's what he said when we gave him the "are you cedrios" treatment.
P.S. If you are a newbie and reading it, not everyone gets accused of being cedrios. At least I never did.
[ March 09, 2004, 07:39 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
Ic, thanks. You took the bait quite nicely.
OK, I wasn't really fishing for compliments. Maybe I have a distorted self-image or something. I appreciate you saying nice things about me all the same.
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
*cough*reciprocate*cough*
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
You guys are so manly!
Posted by T. Analog Kid (Member # 381) on :
Icarus is quite cool. Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
Pepe, I didn't say anything back because I figured you already knew about your celebrity status around here. I just take it as a given.
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
Of course everybody loves Icky!
There was a thread a while back about what you had to do to be considered an oldbie once. I wish I could find it, it was hilarious.
There was something in there about being able to recite from memory at least 10 Patrick Poyfair screenames, give a recipe for my cookies, recite the exact lineage of Elrond, Lord of Rivendell, and others.
Posted by Kasie H (Member # 2120) on :
I think a lot of it has to do with how involved you are with the people on this forum, too.
I've been here for years -- and I've been reading the forum for years -- but I often don't participate in it as much as the....more well-known? oldbies are. Mostly it's just because I don't have the time -- I'd love to spend more time here (and I definitely have been, lately), but there's so much that goes on outside the forum that I just haven't been able to do, like Parachat/AIM, gatherings, mafia...stuff like that. I think a lot of the community here is forged by individual personal connections and less by the kind of group interaction that defines other communities.
Then again, I also tend to stick to the serious threads, so I miss a lot of the inside jokes that go on. Usually I end up involved in a thread on a particular issue and ignore everything else that goes on. Honestly, I have no idea how Hatrackers have the emotional energy to post something in every thread at once! (And some of you definitely do. So to you, I .)
I think you'll find your way eventually, skillery. But my advice would be to get to know some of these people first, because the better they know who you are and what you're like the more likely it is that they'll respond to what you have to say -- I know, for example, that I would tailor a respose to Belle differently than I would one to say, pH. I know enough about their real-life backgrounds for my arguments to be relevent/worth responding to.
So I say, stick around a little bit longer. You never know where it might take you
[ March 09, 2004, 10:58 PM: Message edited by: Kasie H ]
Posted by blacwolve (Member # 2972) on :
I'm convinced that people still think of me as a newbie because I don't post much, and most of what I do post is pretty unimportant.
I don't think I'm a newbie, I've been here a year and a half, am officially real, and know all the inside jokes.
Oh, and Icarus is my very favoritest jatraquero, so there. Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
(Just so you all know, I was kidding, okay?)
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
You could post a thread about how no one would even notice if you weren't around (((blacwolve)))
Posted by digging_holes (Member # 6237) on :
Forgive the ignorance of a young newbie, but who is cedrios? I keep seeing references to that name. Maybe I haven't stumbled across the right thread yet....
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
PSIT:
quote: One way you can avoid that "being skipped over" altogether is to be as inflammatory as possible, apologize like crazy, and refuse to leave.
That's how I did it.
Oh brother. That's me!
Posted by larisse (Member # 2221) on :
quote:Ic, thanks. You took the bait quite nicely.
OK, I wasn't really fishing for compliments.
Is it just me or does that not strike anybody else as funny with Ic and a fish comment in the same post? Okay. Fine. It's just me then.
Anyways, I know that sometimes I do feel like a newbie here. And, sometimes I feel like old hat (pun intended). It can get a little bit intimidating coming here knowing that there are people who have actually met because of this forum. Sometimes you do have to jump into the deep end and hope you don't drown. (Right now, I prefer the shallow end. )
Seems to me that OSC_Fan went out of their way to do a cannonball. I got the impression, in the Da Vinci thread, that they had hostile feelings to all religions but their own (whether that be LDS or not). They held it up in a superior, "holier than thou" (no pun intended) way. They were very defensive where I saw no cause to be. Of course, now impressions can no longer be made.
BTW... I remember being surprised when I read that they claimed to be an older woman. Up to that point, I had had the impression of a teenage boy. (No offense to teenage boys.)
Oh well... my 2¢.
Edit: I should so know the difference between thou and though. I chalk it up to being up way past my bedtime... yeah.. that's it.
[ March 10, 2004, 01:55 AM: Message edited by: larisse ]
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*snort* larisse, I hadn't thought of the pun possibilities -- clever!
And I agree about your analysis of OSC-fan.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Digging-holes, there's a lot to say about Cedrios but he's not worth to. Let's just say he was rude, stupid and a liar, and he was fired of the community by the mods, which happens quasi-never. He tried to come back under other screen-names. He really traumatized the community, because the Cedrios-paranoïa is very active : understand that when a newbie is a little (or a lot) trollish, someone will probably suspect him to be Cedrios. Maybe we give him too much importance. He's not the only troll in the world, unfortunatly.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
When I first came here, lots of people were quasi-rude to me because they thought I was a guy who went buy the screen name as Otaku, or something like that. Now, I ran into him a few times, and I never saw the similarity, as he loved trolling, and I feel I am fairly polite.
Then Otaku changed his ways a bit, and if I remember correctly he changed his screen name and began to try and be a bit more polite. I killed my computer shortly after that, and was limited to posting at the library and at my parents house two states away, so I don't remember what happened to him.
I do know that I almost gave up posting the first week or two I was here because some of the oldies here kept calling me a liar. I told them if they didn't believe me to ignore me, and I'd do the same to them.
Some people I liked right away. Ela, Tom, Papamoose, Jenny Gardner, CT, Kwisni, Belle, and a few others were great, but I still felt weird posting on a board where half of the people thought I was a fake. I mean, not one of the people who accused me of faking could come up with a single example of me trolling, or being extremely rude, and there was no connection to Otaku that could be proved, so they just cited a "feel" they had about me.
I even got one or two rude e-mails, but I never replied to any of them. I didn't feel like acknowledging them, since they wouldn't do the same for me.
I don't doubt that something felt off about his/her posts, and I did notice some of the posts being rude, but that doesn't prove anything in and of itself. I'm definatly not defending OSC-fan, just pointing out that this forum has been wrong before, and almost lost a true fan (both of OSC and of this site and most of the people on it) because of it.
Kwea
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Everybody does mistakes. I've never been taken for someone else, but of course I'm the only French (there was Stephane but he is gone, I think) so I couldn't be mistaken.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
I know, I've made more than my own share of them.
My point is that people here, as well as other places, sometimes make snap decisions with little or no proof, and that we should all be careful about doing so. I didn't run in to OSC-fan much, so I didn't see what was being said so I am not defending her/him (whatever...you know what I mean).
The nature of online forums is that it is hard to be sure of peoples claims of identity. I had no problem with people having doubts about my identity. I just thought that they should have given me a chance to show my nature before accusing me of lying.
Still, I was here for the whole Ceidrous (however it's spelled!) event, so I understand where they were coming from and I have a little more sympathy for them now....
Also, not everyone was rude and/or ignored me. I can't possibly name everyone, both for time concerns and for the fear that I'll forget some of the great people who helped me out, but Geoff and Black Fox were also here all the time, and they were among the first to believe me. It was just weird going on parachat (before hatrack chat) and seeing people debate both sides of my reality even when I was lurking.......
So if OSC-fan wasn't being false, all I can say is for her to hang in there and try again, and to not be too obnoxious this time.
Then again, if they were removed by the moderator, then I trust them to have a good reason for doing so. They have helped make this site one of the best on the web, and I hope they continue to do so.
(and I STILL am NOT Otaku!!!)
Kwea
[ March 10, 2004, 08:36 AM: Message edited by: Kwea ]
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
Okay Paul.
Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
You know, I miss Paul. I didn't care for his whole Otaku schtik, but he was actually a pretty nice guy once you got to know him.
I was talking about you, Mike (saxon75), but I phrased it badly; I wasn't trying to say that you were still a newbie, but that you were a good example of someone who ceased to be a newbie within about a week of becoming a member of Hatrack.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
Dang it, you took my joke Icarus...
Fie on you!
-Bok
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
Well thank you, Noemon. I would say the same about you, except that I wasn't around when you were new, so I don't know if it's true.
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[tangent] I've noticed that I am very inconsistent in how I address people. Sometimes I go with the full screen name, sometimes a shortened version, sometimes the real name, and sometimes a loosely connected pet name. Is that weird? Or annoying? [/tangent]
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OK, so I'm wracking my brain and I don't see the pun. As far as I know, neither Icarus the CFC Jatraquero nor Icarus the son of Daedalus are associated with fish. The only angle I see is a slight similarity between "Ic" and "icthys," which I believe is Greek for "fish." Or is it that fish are icky, i.e. taste bad?
Come on, give a retarded monkey a hand.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
quote: Ichthyic Ich"thy*ic (?), a. [Gr. , , a fish.] (Zoöl.) Like, or pertaining to, fishes. Ichthyocol, Ichthyocolla Ich"thy*o*col (?), Ich`thy*o*col"la (?), n. [L. ichthyocolla, Gr. ; , , a fish + glue: cf. F. ichthyocolle.] Fish glue; isinglass; a glue prepared from the sounds of certain fishes. Ichthyocoprolite Ich`thy*o*cop"ro*lite (?), n. [Gr. , , a fish + E. coprolite.] (Geol.) Fossil dung of fishes. Ichthyodorulite Ich`thy*o*dor"u*lite (?), n. [Gr. , , a fish + a spear + -lite.] (Zoöl.) One of the spiny plates foundon the back and tail of certain skates. Ichthyography Ich`thy*og"ra*phy (?), n. [Gr. , + graphy: cf. F. ichthyographie.] A treatise on fishes. Ichthyoid, Ichthyoidal Ich"thy*oid (?), Ich`thy*oid"al (?), a. [Gr. : , , a fish + form.] (Zoöl.) Somewhat like a fish; having some of the characteristics of fishes; -- said of some amphibians. Ichthyolatry Ich`thy*ol"a*try (?), n. [Gr. , , a fish + to worship.] Worship of fishes, or of fish-shaped idols. Layard. Ichthyolite Ich"thy*o*lite (?), n. [Gr. , , a fish + -lite.] (Paleon.) A fossil fish, or fragment of a fish. Ichthyologic, Ichthyological Ich`thy*o*log"ic (?), Ich`thy*o*log"ic*al (?), a. [Cf. F. ichthyologique.] Of or pertaining to ichthyology. Ichthyologist Ich`thy*ol"o*gist (?), n. [Cf. F. ichthyologiste.] One versed in, or who studies, ichthyology. Ichthyology Ich`thy*ol"o*gy (?), n. [Gr. , , a fish + -logy: cf. F. ichthyologie.] The natural history of fishes; that branch of zoölogy which relates to fishes, including their structure, classification, and habits.
etc.
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
o_O
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
So I was on the right track with "ichthys?" Gosh, that seems a little abstract for a pun.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
*shrug* Not to anyone familiar with the scientific names of fish and/or the study of fish, I guess. Life science geeks. Posted by Kwea (Member # 2199) on :
We've got a UBB database problem related to deleted threads. Anna's recent history also points to post zero of the "what the heck" thread.
Edit: (OSCF's profile points to the same post.)
[ March 10, 2004, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: skillery ]
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Reposting what I said on the other thread about OSC-Fans post's from today.
quote:Here's a conspiracy theory: Kristine went around deleting all offensive LDS references that OSC-fan made. OSC-fan realized this and deleted the rest of his posts and threads himself including his own goodbye, to blame the mods, thinking he could get the rest of us to fall for it, and start complaining about "evil" mods, when we know they are fair honest and even overly compassionate at timse. I agree with skillery's indexing theory for why the threads transposed when the one was deleted.
Now OSC fan is pretending to be yet a different person at the same computer to pretend innocence for everything that happened yesterday.
Conspiracy or no, I'm not buying anything OSC-fan says as legit until proved otherwise.
AJ
Posted by kacard (Member # 200) on :
Nothing of OSC-fan's was deleted by the mods.
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
There may be a slight glitch in the software as far as deleted threads go, that I can believe. But I still find OSC-fan to be disingenuous.
AJ
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
Thank you Kristine, I was wondering. It clears things up but makes OSC-fan even more of a fraud.
AJ
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
The answer is simple....
Anna is OSC-fan!
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
What is even more interesting is that OSC-fan tried to frame and blame Kat.
I admitted to blowing the whistle, but now we know that Kristine didn't take any action. Why would OSC-fan have a vendetta against Kat when I was clearly (and deliberately) more offensive to him in previous threads than Kat ever was?
AJ
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Maybe it was like proscriptions in the time of Sulla; OSC-fan was after my member number.
Posted by KathrynHJanitor (Member # 48) on :
So many people have written to ask me that I want to assure you of this:
Neither Kristine nor I has deleted anything by osc-fan. Nor did we ban osc-fan. If the posts written by osc-fan have disappeared, osc-fan was the one who did the disappearing.
Hope that settles the question.
While I have your attention, I'd like to point out that when you send me moderator alerts, I cannot respond to them unless you include your email address. Whatever entity sends your moderator alerts to me does not include your email address, so answering you is hard and, in some cases, impossible. When you want to alert me of something, please remember to include your email address so I can respond to you.
Thanks!
Kathryn H. Janitor
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
We have a wonderful moderator AND a wonderful administrator!!! I'm sorry for not sending you my e-mail address in my complaint. I thought it would automatically tell you who it was.
AJ
[ March 10, 2004, 05:26 PM: Message edited by: BannaOj ]
Posted by KathrynHJanitor (Member # 48) on :
Oops! Kristine beat me to the punch. See how diligent your moderator AND your administrator are!
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
quote: The answer is simple....
Anna is OSC-fan!
Since I just accused Pooka to be Hobbes, I guess I shouldn't take that wrong. I think I remember OSC-Fan writing English better than I do, however. Does that disculp me ? j/k
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
It's okay, Anna, I know I'm not Hobbes. I think. Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
But I think I got the reason why no one is hugging me when my in-laws are totally awfull with me. If you really think I'm OSC-Fan... I'm here since a long time, and I though some people learned to know and appreciate me. I guess I was wrong and you all suspect me to be Cedrios's French cousin in disguise. I'm sorry and really apologize in advance if I'm going too far but I'm just so upset with the in-laws when our wedding is so close, and I should be sleeping just now, but I can't.
[ March 10, 2004, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: Anna ]
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
(((Anna))) Shh, dear, it's okay. Where's the thing with your in-laws? I don't think I saw that. I'm sure it's stressful with wedding. I don't think you're OSC-fan at all. I think it's a glitch with the database and the way links go to forum topic numbers.
Now, where's the bit with your in-laws? I've never planned a wedding, but I've heard it's wildly stressfull.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
To AJ : Thank you so much. You are right, they are not technically my in-laws before May, but I call them that way because it's easier to understand. Vincent and I are getting married in May, the 8, that's very close and that's why it's hard to cope with the in-laws just now. To Kat : it's very stressfull and the hard part is, you make compromises, you make all you can for everyone to be happy and there are still people complaining and saying you think only about yourself and you've be bad educated and you are a Barbarian (I hardly exagerate). So it's a complete break-down for me.
[ March 10, 2004, 05:55 PM: Message edited by: Anna ]
Posted by aka (Member # 139) on :
<<<<<<<<<<Anna>>>>>>>>>>
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Oh, that does sound rough. I think weddings are one of those things where everyone has an opinion. Congratulations, by the way. That is very cool. Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I know you're not OSC-fan, Anna. You're way too cool to be that person. Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
The thought of planning a wedding for myself, gives me a fit of the vapors. One of the big reasons why we aren't!
AJ
Posted by Derrell (Member # 6062) on :
(((Anna)))
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
I think I shouldn't have done it myself. We should have chosen to do a quick civil wedding and invite only two friends. That way the in-laws would have reasons to complain !
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I was just kidding (((Anna))). I haven't been offended and I'm pretty sure the person who proposed that you were O.F. was kidding as well. We who speak English from birth often don't pick up on each other's irony. I am so impressed that you get along here most the time without anyone knowing you are French.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Hey Anna, we have something in common.
When you get married, we'll both have French fathers-in-law!
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Did I ? (to Pooka) PSIT, you married a French ?
[ March 10, 2004, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: Anna ]
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
(I know the conversation has moved on, but sheesh, it's been less than a day, and I wanted to weigh in on a couple of things...)
Icarus said:
quote:I have no memory of anybody being dismissive of me when I was new. I also have made a point of welcoming people when I see a first post.
*silent for now on the topic of "welcoming."*
I agree with Ick on this, and I came onboard just about a year ago. People were very good to me. That includes - all kidding aside - Ick. (you get a pass this once.)
Noemon said:
quote:You and sndrake just fit the community so well that within a week of your coming it was as though you'd always been here.
Thanks, but it probably wasn't as quick with me as your memory would have it. I came on in March, posting only occasionally until late summer and into the fall of last year. I kind of eased myself slowly into the community.
Erik, who you were referring to, had a much different style as a newbie. I remember. He came on with a flood of posts, eager to have fun and mostly wanting to play. A lot.
The people in this community responded well to both of us - in terms of style and personality differences. And I, for one, am grateful to everyone involved in that process - especially Icarus, who gifted me with a newbie story that will grow in the retelling over the years. Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Nope, it's my husband's stepfather. I thought it was such an obscure relation that it was funny.
He speaks French though, but he's Native American and Czech. (My hubby)
Posted by Lissande (Member # 350) on :
I wondered why your daughter (?) had a Czech name, PSI - Anicka, right? Guess this explains it. Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
posted March 10, 2004 02:28 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is it that when one clicks to check OSC-Fan's recent posts it says she started the "OSC-fan, or what the heck did happen ?" thread when that was in fact Anna?
Just a glitch?
[ March 10, 2004, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: St. Yogi ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 72 | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged | OSC-fan Member Member # 6195
posted March 10, 2004 03:20 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't know St.Yogi, it's a while I don't come in here, I updated my profile in Feb., I don't know what happened to my past threads, and I don't know what that thread is about, I never started that thread, I think someone is playing with adm. controls. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 126 | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged |
OSC-fan Member Member # 6195
posted March 10, 2004 03:25 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually I was surprised to find a thread in my name
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Weird-io.
And I missed the original "don't be mean to newbies" thread... Doesn't look like I missed too much though.
When I was first here, people were pretty nice to me. I did get put in a box once, but then I got fed through a hole, so that was ok.
Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
I'm sorry Anna for implying(well more than implying) that you are OSC-fan. I was just teasing. I guess I should have put a j/k in there.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Lissande...... . . . *jaw drops*
Uh, yes, her name is Czech. Are you sure I didn't tell you that? Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
What Lissa neglected to mention is that she now lives in Prague.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Well thank you, Noemon. I would say the same about you, except that I wasn't around when you were new, so I don't know if it's true.
Thanks Mike! Acutally, though, I took a long time to let a lot of myself show through here; I don't think I ever started a thread under my original username, in fact. For quite awhile, I think that CT and MOTO were the only two people here that were aware of me, but since then I've come out of my shell a bit.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:Thanks, but it probably wasn't as quick with me as your memory would have it. I came on in March, posting only occasionally until late summer and into the fall of last year. I kind of eased myself slowly into the community.
Really sndrake? I remember early on seeing something by you, and being startled at how recently it said you'd registered, since you felt so completely like an integral part of the community.
Posted by dkw (Member # 3264) on :
::points to previous post::
What he said.
Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
posted March 11, 2004 09:24 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- St.Yogi-
Quote: -skillery: Actually there was a couple of minutes between the deleting of OSC-fan's thread and Anna's.
OSC-fan: How long is it since you've been on Hatrack? And there is no thread at the moment under your name, so what do you mean?-
ST. Yogi, I will answer only you since I find the others posts confusing and somewhat accusatory. Especially OJ, who seems looking for conspiracies in every corner for no reason , as far as we know he/she could have been the one to play with adm controls. I never said it was an adm or mod and he/she knows it well, OJ is specialized in twisting other people's words, I used to read the forum without participating, and still I have no idea what happened, so either it was a glitch or somebody here is playing games. I never started the OSC-fan thread!! I have no idea why it says I started it, I just renewed my profile in FEB. And I am deeply annoyed of the way everybody is reacting, I registered a while ago but rarely participated to the forum. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 129 | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged |
quote: Noemon Member Member # 1115
posted March 11, 2004 09:30 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Especially OJ, who seems looking for conspiracies in every corner for no reason , as far as we know he/she could have been the one to play with adm controls. I never said it was an adm or mod and he/she knows it well, OJ is specialized in twisting other people's words, --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OSC Fan, we know each other a little too well to fall for that kind of crap. Banna is a well known, well loved member of this forum. Attempts to smear her aren't going to work. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 3877 | Registered: Aug 2000 | IP: Logged |
quote: OSC-fan Member Member # 6195
posted March 11, 2004 09:37 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Noemon: quote-OSC Fan, we know each other a little too well to fall for that kind of crap. Banna is a well known, well loved member of this forum. Attempts to smear her aren't going to work-
Yes I know Noemon, she has worked well into the fabric of this forum, and now the other members defend her even when she is lying, I am not trying to smear her, I could care less, I just ignore her comments, I have no interest in lying about her (while she amuses herself by lying about everybody), I just don't think it's fair to the other members. And now she is fooling everybody with her little games, look at what she said about the thread that Anna opened (the one with my name in the title), OJ didn't hesitate to attack everybody and starting her little conspiracies to divert the attention from herself. You are free to believe me or not.
posted March 11, 2004 09:38 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OSC-fan: What exactly is she lying about? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 77 | Registered: Dec 2003 | IP: Logged |
quote: Dagonee Member Member # 5818
posted March 11, 2004 09:46 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Especially OJ, who seems looking for conspiracies in every corner for no reason , as far as we know he/she could have been the one to play with adm controls. I never said it was an adm or mod and he/she knows it well, OJ is specialized in twisting other people's words, --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let’s see, Banna comes to Hatrack and spends two years making friends and building a good online reputation for herself. All the while she is quietly using her l33t hacking skills to break UBB security and create an alternate administration profile for herself.
After months of hard work, she achieves her goal and quickly scans the forums for a likely victim. She seizes on newcomer OSC-Fan and quickly frames her by creating a fake thread in her name.
As further insult, Banna delete’s all of OSC-Fan’s wonderfully witty posts, even the ones that contain the ultimate solutions to the problems faced by single-mothers.
As Banna’s evil plot achieves fruition, OSC-Fan bravely tries to defend herself, but to no avail! Not only is Banna a master hacker, she is also a master manipulator, capable of twisting OSC-Fan’s words so that our poor, feeble minds turn on the innocent victim. In a case of mass delusion, all of the members of Hatrack remember OSC-Fan’s posts not as the marvel of wit and ingenuity that they were, but rather as adolescent-sounding, insulting, deceptive mockeries of themselves.
Thank goodness OSC-Fan is here to expose the evil that is BannaOJ!
Dagonee P.S., Banna, if you did actually manage to pull something like this off, I must commend you on your choice of victims. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1087 | Registered: Oct 2003 | IP: Logged |
quote: OSC-fan Member Member # 6195
posted March 11, 2004 09:56 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dagonee Member Member # 5818
posted March 11, 2004 09:46 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Especially OJ, who seems looking for conspiracies in every corner for no reason , as far as we know he/she could have been the one to play with adm controls. I never said it was an adm or mod and he/she knows it well, OJ is specialized in twisting other people's words, --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let’s see, Banna comes to Hatrack and spends two years making friends and building a good online reputation for herself. All the while she is quietly using her l33t hacking skills to break UBB security and create an alternate administration profile for herself.
After months of hard work, she achieves her goal and quickly scans the forums for a likely victim. She seizes on newcomer OSC-Fan and quickly frames her by creating a fake thread in her name.
As further insult, Banna delete’s all of OSC-Fan’s wonderfully witty posts, even the ones that contain the ultimate solutions to the problems faced by single-mothers.
As Banna’s evil plot achieves fruition, OSC-Fan bravely tries to defend herself, but to no avail! Not only is Banna a master hacker, she is also a master manipulator, capable of twisting OSC-Fan’s words so that our poor, feeble minds turn on the innocent victim. In a case of mass delusion, all of the members of Hatrack remember OSC-Fan’s posts not as the marvel of wit and ingenuity that they were, but rather as adolescent-sounding, insulting, deceptive mockeries of themselves.
Thank goodness OSC-Fan is here to expose the evil that is BannaOJ!
Dagonee P.S., Banna, if you did actually manage to pull something like this off, I must commend you on your choice of victims.
Wow, Dagonee, compliments for your imagination, not what I was implying but stated this way it makes more sense now , you should be a mystery writer, if you're not one already.
As I said I don't care what Banna says about me, I don't participate in the forum that often, and if I want to participate I will, despite anybody's efforts to paint me as a fraud. I haven't done anything to violate the TOS. Since someone deleted all my posts, I don't even remember how many I had from the start. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 129 | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged |
OSC-fan: A couple of questions: Why are you trying to discredit BannaOJ? When was the last time you were on Hatrack? When was the last time you posted anything on Hatrack(before yesterday)?
I really can't see BannaOJ do something like what you're describing. You should give us some proof before you start accusing people. A lot of people read your posts and I'm sure they wouldn't blow the whistle on you unless you were really, really rude.
Let's just try to figure this out without accusations.
You say that you haven't been on hatrack for a while, but it seems like you're in quite a tight spot here. Several people saw you post two days ago(me included) and now you come and say that you didn't. Why should we believe you?
Maybe someone you know used your computer? I don't know. I don't even know why I'm wasting time on this.
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
It looks more and more like we've got a UBB database problem. OSC-fan's post count is still what it was before the posts were deleted.
OTOH, I was following this thread before the thread name changed, and the thread and post zero was indeed created by OSC-fan.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
I just tested something. If you delete a post, your post count doesn't register it.
In other words, if you want to post-spike, create a thread full of meaningless, one-word posts and delete it immediately thereafter.
[ March 11, 2004, 10:40 AM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]
Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
I think your post count stays the same even if you delete your posts.
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
Yogi QUote: OSC-fan: A couple of questions: Why are you trying to discredit BannaOJ? When was the last time you were on Hatrack? When was the last time you posted anything on Hatrack(before yesterday)?
I really can't see BannaOJ do something like what you're describing. You should give us some proof before you start accusing people. A lot of people read your posts and I'm sure they wouldn't blow the whistle on you unless you were really, really rude.
Let's just try to figure this out without accusations.
You say that you haven't been on hatrack for a while, but it seems like you're in quite a tight spot here. Several people saw you post two days ago(me included) and now you come and say that you didn't. Why should we believe you?
Maybe someone you know used your computer? I don't know. I don't even know why I'm wasting time on this.-----------
Ok, Yogi I'll answer your questions one by one.
1) I am not trying to discredit OJ. 2) Sometime in Feb. 3) I osted something in the secularism thread, it was a link, now it's gone.
I don't have answers for the other ones, I don't even know why we're all wasting time on this either. If you don't want to believe me go right ahead, I am as surprised as you to find all my posts deleted and my name attached to a thread I didn't start.
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
See, I leave for a few days to get my life in order, and I miss all this drama! Oh well...
[ March 11, 2004, 11:20 AM: Message edited by: Ryuko ]
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Banna, I think this is actually very exciting for you. It means you're famous enough to get your own hysterical character assassin. Congratulations!!
*hug*
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Please, don't let me interrupt.
Posted by Sopwith (Member # 4640) on :
Perhaps things are just as OSC-Fan has said and it wasn't him/her that had posted the previous things. Stranger things have happened in this world.
Why not just shrug our collective shoulders and move along. If this OSC-Fan is the original one and different from the recent one, it will show through very quickly. If not, well, that will show through just as quickly.
Until then, let's just take things at face value, lay off the accusations and roll with it.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Of course, Tom, your having done that invalidates your post count, giving Bob the crown!
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
Is it possible that someone made a clone of OSC-Fan's name? Or were the posts on the same member number?
Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
quote: 1) I am not trying to discredit OJ. 2) Sometime in Feb. 3) I osted something in the secularism thread, it was a link, now it's gone.
So you haven't been on since february... Does anyone else use your computer? Someone who knows about hatrack?
I'm finding it quite hard to believe you. It's just kind of unlikely.
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
As a busy person, I don't remember exactly when I joined, I don't know how some people find the time to be here most of the time, but I know I can't.
Hereis the thread: Secularism is a Danger to Civilization.
I am not accusing anybody, Yogi, maybe someone knew I didn't have the time to be in here and took advantage of it (just a theory).
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
It's unlikely. Frankly, given that the community's pretty much lost faith in you, you may be better off re-entering the forum under another name and never mentioning to anyone that you were OSC-fan. Just a suggestion.
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Oooo... the drama!
Ok, here's the thing. OSC-Fan as of a few days ago was the wankiest wanker that ever wanked. She wanked in the morning, she wanked in the evenings. The mormons were not spared her wanking and single mothers the world over were condemned by her wankocity.
Now there is someone claiming to be a new, improved, somehow better OSC-Fan. Fine. If this one isn't a complete, utter, through-and-through moron like the last one (s)he will fit right in. If (s)he isn't (s)he will get the same treatment the last one did. We don't suffer more than one wanker on this forum, and I've already filled the position.
In short. Who cares? Move on along now, nothing to see here.
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
I am sorry but I am not gonna change my name just because the "community has lost its faith in me", all this loss of faith has been fueled by few individuals who probably know something about what is going on; if I know in my heart I haven't done anything wrong, I am gonna keep the screen name whether you like it or not!
And I never attacked Mormons or single mothers! As I said before, you are free to believe me or not.
[ March 11, 2004, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: OSC-fan ]
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Great, thumbs up, good attitude.
Now just carry on and start posting in other threads and stop pointing fingers on this thread and we'll all be happy.
Well, I'll be happy anyway. And really, that's all I've ever cared about Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
Bob, if I ever get in one of those moods, could you take a day off and let me be wanker for a day?
Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
Wanker... ehehhe... I like that word. It's almost as good as wang.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
I'm too lazy to post in OOC right now. I'll let Pop handle that one.
And probably this one.
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
bob, what you said describes yourself to a T. Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
Woah there, PSI. Pop can't handle *this* one.
Posted by Wanker for a Day (Member # 6315) on :
Hey, get in line! I'm next after Bob.
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
bob, I was invited here by yogi, and I accepted even though I don't participate in gossip threads.
So, you don't tell anybody to move on, especially after saying what you said.
You can join a forum were people are more like you, but, personally I didn't think people were this low in this forum.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
You didn't??
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
La-la-la-la-la
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
I probably should have thought for a minute before branding myself "Hatrack's Official Wanker." Me and my big mouth. (And you know what they say about the size of a *ahem*)
As for you, OSC. You've lost me. I can't make out what you're saying high up there on that horse. But, if you've got something to say to me by all means E-mail me wally_russ@hotmail.com and we'll sort it out.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Look, OSC-fan, I'll be blunt: most of us think you're a troll, somebody who comes here to stir up trouble -- and lie continually.
If this isn't the case, and if your account has been in some way hijacked, I'm genuinely sorry. But I'm afraid that this is the way you're coming off, and there's not much you can do to convince people otherwise at this point.
Ergo, I stand by my suggestion: come back under a different name.
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
Quote-Let's just drop this topic, yogi, and thanks again for inviting me to explain myself in the other thread, I don't know the age range of those people but they acted very childishly, especially after I explained myself.
Besides, I knew that no matter what I said they wouldn't have changed their mind, their minds had already been poisoned by the words of OJ and others (like Bob), I didn't participate in any of those threads, besides why would I want to attack Mormons if I am one?-
Here. I quoted myself to show what was being said in the other thread.
(Have you noticed the sudden disappearance of OJ's posts?, I'll bet as soon as I leave he shows up and starts badmouthing about me)
[ March 11, 2004, 12:16 PM: Message edited by: OSC-fan ]
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
OSC-fan, if you really are innocent of what we accuse you to do and someone stole your account, then you should understand that person can do it again, and you should choose another name to avoid that. You have, too, to understand that this forums knew some really pervert trolls and that's why we don't trust you on your words. Not because of you, if you are innocent. But because of some people that make us be less trustfull.
EDIT to add : even if you really think AJ did a bad thing to you, we know her since a long time and we trust her, so it's not the best way to gain our confidence. By the way, why AJ ? Why not me, or anyone else ?
[ March 11, 2004, 12:18 PM: Message edited by: Anna ]
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
Anna, I explained it earlier, because even if I didn't participate much, I read the posts from time to time and OJ is famous for twisting the words of others to make them appear bad and then, once everybody takes her side, she rejoice in victory because that person is branded forever as a troll.
Some people should learn to think with head and judge the situation with their own head, instead of following the flow. Most of you are blind to OJ little game she plays.
And, personally I don't care if you'll believe me or not, just open your eyes and look around.
[ March 11, 2004, 12:25 PM: Message edited by: OSC-fan ]
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
quote:OJ is famous for twisting the words of others to make them appear bad and then, once everybody takes her side, she rejoice in victory because that person is branded forever as a troll.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
OSC-fan, do what pleases you to do, think what you want to think, but if you really want to belong to this community, stop accusing AJ and prove us wrong. Take another screen name, become a respected part of Hatrack and then tell us you were OSC-fan. It would prove you are not a troll. EDIT : grammar error.
[ March 11, 2004, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: Anna ]
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
This one time, in an argument with AJ, she took my words and made them seem like they were coming from a religious zealot with bigotry issues.
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
OSC-fan, here's another problem: either you're a troll or you're staggeringly clueless.
Either way, you're better off ditching the current username and starting fresh. Continuing this fight is only going to make you look worse -- unless, I suppose, you're sitting at home laughing about how silly we are, dealing with your trolling like you were a "real" person.
If THAT'S the case, let me point out something: we've had our share of trolls of this sort over the years, and we ALWAYS tend to give them the benefit of the doubt. This isn't because we don't suspect something, or because we don't have anything better to do, but because it's worse to assume the worst than it is to waste some effort on someone incorrigible.
You won't do yourself any favors by continually insulting AJ -- or screwing up her name. Persisting in that approach is just digging yourself a bigger hole.
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
Anna, which one? the real one or the fake one?
The reason why i think it's OJ it's because he vehemently tried to find a conspiracy behind all this (just open your eyes and look by yourself at what he wrote)
I have no interest in changing my screen name, so said, I'll return to normal threads with a real discussion on a real topic.
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
quote:Wanker... ehehhe... I like that word. It's almost as good as wang.
You're a fan of Penny Arcade, aren't you, Ryukochan?
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
quote:OJ is famous for twisting the words of others to make them appear bad and then, once everybody takes her side, she rejoice in victory because that person is branded forever as a troll.
You know, when Banna first came to hatrack, I remember asking her "hey, are you the famous BannaOJ, well known for twisting the words of others to make them appear bad and then, once everybody takes your side, you rejoice in victory because that person is branded forever as a troll?"
She denied it, but I think she must have been lying.
Hey--could OSC-Fan actually be the Screwtape Grandma? Maybe she found out about Banna's participation in Hatrack, and decided to warn us all that the Anna Jo we all know and love is really the internet generation's answer to Machievelli?
[ March 11, 2004, 12:42 PM: Message edited by: Noemon ]
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
Okay, I have to know: are you getting AJ's sex and name wrong because you're trying for some kind of bizarre insult, or are you just not reading the posts?
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
He seems to go back and forth on the sex thing, Tom. I assume it's a very strange attempt to be passive-aggressively insulting.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
quote: Hey--could OSC-Fan actually be the Screwtape Grandma? Maybe she found out about Banna's participation in Hatrack, and decided to warn us all that the Anna Jo we all know and love is really the internet generation's answer to Machievelli?
That is too good. Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
Considering that OSC-Fan says they weren't the one posting all those deleted post over the last week, the posting style seems really similar.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Yeah, doesn't it?
Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
quote: OJ is famous for twisting the words of others to make them appear bad and then, once everybody takes her side, she rejoice in victory because that person is branded forever as a troll.
quote: Besides, I knew that no matter what I said they wouldn't have changed their mind, their minds had already been poisoned by the words of OJ and others (like Bob),
It's saying things like that, which brands you as a troll. Bob is just trying to help and is saying that if you're really not that person then we will soon notice and accept you. But if you keep on relentlessly attacking other hatrackers then I have no reason to believe you or support you at all.
Posted by Bokonon (Member # 480) on :
At the very least, OSC-Fan, change your password (and also, ideally, your email address attached to this username). The reason being, if you are correct (and I am assuming you are), then someone just took your username for a spin for a couple days, and deleted the evidence before you came back. This means they must have your password. It also means they have your email address, and they could conceivably find a way to get into your email and request new passwords for here, which will cause more problems.
So please at least do that.
EDIT: Also, are you logging in from a public terminal (library) or is your machine easily accessed by others (a roommate, a sibling)? If so, I recommend logging out after every session. That goes for all your web boards, not just Hatrack.
-Bok
[ March 11, 2004, 01:43 PM: Message edited by: Bokonon ]
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OJ is famous for twisting the words of others to make them appear bad and then, once everybody takes her side, she rejoice in victory because that person is branded forever as a troll.
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Besides, I knew that no matter what I said they wouldn't have changed their mind, their minds had already been poisoned by the words of OJ and others (like Bob), --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It's saying things like that, which brands you as a troll. Bob is just trying to help and is saying that if you're really not that person then we will soon notice and accept you. But if you keep on relentlessy attacking other hatrackers then I have no reason to believe you or support you at all. --------------------------------------------------
How come you don't point out when they attack me or other members??
ok, I admit it, I'm Banna's alter ego. Happy??
Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
quote: How come you don't point out when they attack me or other members??
Because I'm a jerk.
And because I haven't seen anyone attack you. I've seen people doubt whether or not what you are saying is true. I don't call that attacking because so far you haven't shown us anything to make us believe you are telling the truth. I'm sorry but there's probably nothing you can do to make us believe you other than just post normally and not be a troll. Just kind of lay low for a while and don't mention this incident.
If what you're saying is true, about you not making those posts, then there should be no problem.
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
quote: Bob the Lawyer Member Member # 3278
posted March 11, 2004 11:41 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oooo... the drama!
Ok, here's the thing. OSC-Fan as of a few days ago was the wankiest wanker that ever wanked. She wanked in the morning, she wanked in the evenings. The mormons were not spared her wanking and single mothers the world over were condemned by her wankocity.
Now there is someone claiming to be a new, improved, somehow better OSC-Fan. Fine. If this one isn't a complete, utter, through-and-through moron like the last one (s)he will fit right in. If (s)he isn't (s)he will get the same treatment the last one did. We don't suffer more than one wanker on this forum, and I've already filled the position.
In short. Who cares? Move on along now, nothing to see here.
so yogi this is not an attack? Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
That was an attack on the OSC-fan of a few days ago, which as you might recall isn't you.
Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
I don't think anyone on this forum has anything against you personally. It's just that it's all kind of suspicious. Something like this has never happened before.
Anyway, if what you say is true and you're not the OSC-fan of a few days ago then there's no problem and you can continue posting normally.
EDIT: And it might be a good idea to change your password and the e-mail you have connected to hatrack.
[ March 11, 2004, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: St. Yogi ]
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
You guys all rock - thanks for entertaining me this afternoon.
Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
Belle, is that sarcasm?
Posted by TomDavidson (Member # 124) on :
To be honest, I'm thinking that Yogi is actually OSC-fan. Posted by MEC (Member # 2968) on :
OSC-Fan is the matrix. Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
Heh. I guess that's a valid argument.
Why should I be exempt of suspicion. I have spent a suspicious amount of effort on this thing.
I assure you though I'm not OSC-fan.
[ March 11, 2004, 02:39 PM: Message edited by: St. Yogi ]
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
No, it is absolutely not sarcasm, I find this entertaining.
I don't say that to make fun of anyone, just that these responses to the evelness that is BannaOJ has me rolling on the floor. Especially Dag's. Posted by Wussy Actor (Member # 5937) on :
Just out of noob curiosity, how does the recent uproar caused by OSC–fan compare to famous trolls of the past such as Cedrios. This is my first troll watch.
And OSC-fan, if you’re not a troll, I apologize for implying that you are.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
Guys, you can stop accusing everybody else. Actually, I'm an OSC fan. I'm sorry. I didn't know that was a problem, but I'll try to change. That Ender kid wasn't that cool, anyway.
Posted by katharina (Member # 827) on :
Honestly? This is nothing. Ced lasted for months. And have you heard of Baldar? I think we're still traumatized.
Posted by aka (Member # 139) on :
OSC-fan, this is how we work. We try to give everyone a chance to show they are sincere. We bend over backwards to be kind to new people. But then when it becomes completely obvious that someone is not dealing with us in good faith, we get bored with their silliness very quickly and soon totally ignore everything they have to say. Trolls are not shocking, interesting, clever, or intriguing at all, they are just extremely dull-witted, laughable, pathetic, and a big waste of time. We have more interesting things to think about and discuss here. If you want to make a big splash that way, you should try elsewhere.
Or if you want to be accepted for your true self, then drop the idiocy and join us for real. Post what you really think and feel. Be honest with people. Actually try. You might find that people will even like you. You may even earn people's respect. I think you will find that a lot more enjoyable in the long run that trying to get giggles out of stirring people up.
Posted by PSI Teleport (Member # 5545) on :
quote: That was an attack on the OSC-fan of a few days ago, which as you might recall isn't you.
That is funniest thing I've ever heard.
Yogi is on my human list.
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
quote:OSC-fan, this is how we work. We try to give everyone a chance to show they are sincere. We bend over backwards to be kind to new people. But then when it becomes completely obvious that someone is not dealing with us in good faith, we get bored with their silliness very quickly and soon totally ignore everything they have to say. Trolls are not shocking, interesting, clever, or intriguing at all, they are just extremely dull-witted, laughable, pathetic, and a big waste of time. We have more interesting things to think about and discuss here. If you want to make a big splash that way, you should try elsewhere.
Or if you want to be accepted for your true self, then drop the idiocy and join us for real. Post what you really think and feel. Be honest with people. Actually try. You might find that people will even like you. You may even earn people's respect. I think you will find that a lot more enjoyable in the long run that trying to get giggles out of stirring people up.
aka, do you think I am having fun?
I drop in one day and post what I really think and feel on the acting chameleons thread and people start to attack me and I have no clue why, do you call that fun? All my posts are deleted, do you think I find it fun? I find a thread I never started (with my name in the title) attached to my sn, do you think that's amusing? I found it all annoying and if there is someone who has to stop this idiocy I know it's not me!
[ March 11, 2004, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: OSC-fan ]
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
Yesterday OSC-fan said goodbye.
Today (s)he said:
quote:In short. Who cares? Move on along now, nothing to see here
Yet here (s)he is back in our face.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
OSC-fan, now if you are sincere, you have to cope with the fact that someone has been stealing your name and password and that we have no way to know who or if it was actually you. We can't trust this name anymore, so go and choose another one, anyway your post count wasn't that big !
Posted by OSC-fan (Member # 6195) on :
Whatever, skillery, just have fun you guys, you all have too much time on your hands. Keep spending hours of your life talking about my sn, I maybe can write a book on it and make money off it, don't worry I won't use your dull screen names
psst, yogi, I told you...but you insisted on inviting me here. Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
You are right, spend time to tell you what to do to belong to this board if you really are not a troll isn't worth too. You are not worth too, obviously. I'm leaving.
Posted by kacard (Member # 200) on :
OK gang, enough is enough. I, for one, am way tired of this issue. I don't know what happened except that OSC-fan, whoever it is, erased all of their own posts. Fine. This conversation has become pointless and somebody is going to say something else to hurt feelings. So, I use my great and amazing power to close this thread and ask that the topic not be picked up again And Anna, darling, come back -- we love you and if you really leave we won't get to find out how the wedding goes! Kristine Card
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