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Posted by LockeTreaty (Member # 5627) on :
 
For all of us Hoosiers out there, we have once again dodged day-light savings time. We are one of the only states who are just entirely too lazy to run around our houses and changes all of the clocks. And I for one am more than pleased to say that I am one of those lazy Hoosiers.

In truth I don't see any legitamite reason for having day-light savings time. The time is the time. If people want more daylight in the morning wake up earier or later, which ever one applies. But what do my fellow Hatrackers think about Indiana living in its own comfortable little time zone?
 
Posted by JonnyNotSoBravo (Member # 5715) on :
 
Doesn't Arizona do the same thing? Like people from Indiana are special! Pfffft!
 
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
 
Yep, no daylight savings time here. Why, did the switch happen already?
 
Posted by LockeTreaty (Member # 5627) on :
 
Yes, we are special. We make up 4% of the states that are too lazy to move the hour and on their clocks 360 degrees.
 
Posted by Nato (Member # 1448) on :
 
Daylight Saving Time will begin April 4th this year. I don't really think it's necessary, but I'll play along if everybody else does. [Smile]
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
Every year my wife and I have an argument about this. I want to defy daylight savings time by keeping all of our clocks on standard time.

So far I've lost every year. [Frown]
 
Posted by eslaine (Member # 5433) on :
 
Lazy? Don't you mean smart?

I already want my hour back!

My obligatory comment, paraphrased from a farmer at the time Daylight Savings was instituted. "Why don't we just lower the thermometer 10 degrees in Summer--that way we can stay cooler as well."

He had just heard the idea that it would be helpful to farmers. What a crock. Farmers get up before the sun regardless of "clock" time. They have to follow the sun, not some congressional whim.

I'm not sure if this statistic is true any longer, but I remember reading that there is more traffic accidents at the times of year when we change the clocks than any other two week periods during the year.

[Mad] Stupid Daylight Savings! [Mad]
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
Us Arizonans have the most car accidents all year round.

[ March 10, 2004, 08:38 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
There's an Indian reservation in Arizona that does not change the clocks. I'm not sure of the details.

And just for the record, I hate Daylight Savings Time. What a ridiculous idea! It's just an example of "This amp goes to 11."

Dagonee
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
quote:
There's an Indian reservation in Arizona that does not change the clocks. I'm not sure of the details.
Dude, none of Arizona changes its clocks.

[ March 10, 2004, 08:44 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Oops, I got it backwards. "The Navajo Nation, in northeastern Arizona, does observe Daylight Saving Time."
 
Posted by Tstorm (Member # 1871) on :
 
I personally like Daylight Savings Time. It means more daylight in the evening for me to enjoy. Besides, who wants the sun to come up at 5-6am? Take that hour of daylight and put it in the evening, where I at least have a chance of burning it!
 
Posted by Raia (Member # 4700) on :
 
*lights torch* You said it, LockeTreaty!! [Taunt]
 
Posted by Concrete Cowboy (Member # 6229) on :
 
quote:
One of the biggest reasons we change our clocks to Daylight Saving Time (DST) is that it saves energy. Energy use and the demand for electricity for lighting our homes is directly connected to when we go to bed and when we get up. Bedtime for most of us is late evening through the year. When we go to bed, we turn off the lights and TV.
In the average home, 25 percent of all the electricity we use is for lighting and small appliances, such as TVs, VCRs and stereos. A good percentage of energy consumed by lighting and appliances occurs in the evening when families are home. By moving the clock ahead one hour, we can cut the amount of electricity we consume each day.

Studies done in the 1970s by the U.S. Department of Transportation show that we trim the entire country's electricity usage by about one percent EACH DAY with Daylight Saving Time.

Daylight Saving Time "makes" the sun "set" one hour later and therefore reduces the period between sunset and bedtime by one hour. This means that less electricity would be used for lighting and appliances late in the day.

We also use less electricity because we are home fewer hours during the "longer" days of spring and summer. Most people plan outdoor activities in the extra daylight hours. When we are not at home, we don't turn on the appliances and lights. A poll done by the U.S. Department of Transportation indicated that Americans liked Daylight Saving Time because "there is more light in the evenings / can do more in the evenings."

While the amounts of energy saved per household are small...added up they can be very large.

In the winter, the afternoon Daylight Saving Time advantage is offset by the morning's need for more lighting. In spring and fall, the advantage is less than one hour. So, Daylight Saving Time saves energy for lighting in all seasons of the year except for the four darkest months of the year (November, December, January and February) when the afternoon advantage is offset by the need for lighting because of late sunrise.

A study was released in May 2001 by the State of California's Energy Commission to see if creating an early DST or going to a year-round DST will help with the electricity problems the state faced in 2000-2001-2002. To download a copy of the study, Effects of Daylight Saving Time on California Electricity Use, please look for: Publication # 400-01-13

http://www.energy.ca.gov/daylightsaving.html


Yep, that should just about cover it. Certainly not the original reason I'm sure, but it makes enough sense not to just dismiss DST outright. Then again, I'm happy to finally live in a place where I won't be changing my clock. But, you all asked for a reason, and that is one.

Feyd Baron, DoC
 
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
 
Without daylight savings, how would I know when to vacuum the living room? [Evil Laugh] Uh, I mean change the batteries in my smoke alarms?
 
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
 
My only difficulty with daylight savings is the missed hour of sleep that first day. I'd be fine if we stayed on daylight savings all year, though -- even willing to forgo getting back the hour of sleep I lost.

Besides, I like being able to barbecue at 9:30 at night. Really.

--Pop
 
Posted by Nato (Member # 1448) on :
 
It is "Daylight Saving Time" isn't it? Not "savings?"

I'm always confused about that. And doesn't "savings" sound a little better anyways?
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
I've always heard "Savings", but I'm not sure.

Moose, in Alaska, you can barbecue at midnight in the summer.

My biggest problem with DST is that, due to the fact that we don't use it, my TV-viewing habits are set back an hour, which screws up everything else.

[ March 11, 2004, 01:30 AM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
 
Posted by mr_porteiro_head (Member # 4644) on :
 
quote:
I'd be fine if we stayed on daylight savings all year, though
That makes as much sense to me as renaming the color brown to be called green. That way, I wouldn't have to water my lawn as much and my lawn would still be green.
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
I can't stand getting home from work and it being too dark to do anything. Bring on the Daylight Savings Time. It can't come too soon.

I figure its only couch porteiros that don't like it. [Razz]
 
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
 
From Indianapolis Magazine last year.
 
Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
 
[ROFL]
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
celia, is that ad a joke or is it supposed to be serious?
 
Posted by peterh (Member # 5208) on :
 
For those of you that care why the Navajo nation does follow daylight savings when the rest of AZ does not, it is because the Navajo nation covers parts of 3 states and only AZ doesn't play along with the rest of the country.
 
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
 
it is scanned directly out of the magazine. i have not altered it. what do you think?
 
Posted by zgator (Member # 3833) on :
 
It scares me. At what point do they want change? I'm guessing at some point after digital wristwatches were invented.

Please don't tell me all Hoosiers are like this.
 
Posted by Teshi (Member # 5024) on :
 
I don't know about you down further south but I rely on Daylight Savings. Do I want to be getting to school just as the sun is rising? Definately not. Without Daylight Savings time, I would be waking up hours before the sun was up! [Sleep]

Farmers may not work with clocks, but schools sure do!
 
Posted by gwan (Member # 6194) on :
 
I live in Saskatchewan, the only province, in canada, that doesn't bother with daylight savings time. I didn't even know what is was until I was 16.... hahahah suckers [Taunt]
 
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
 
quote:
That makes as much sense to me as renaming the color brown to be called green. That way, I wouldn't have to water my lawn as much and my lawn would still be green.
I'd be cool with all work and school days starting and ending an hour earlier, stores opening and closing an hour earlier, cell phone long-distance evening hour plans beginning and ending an hour earlier, primetime TV starting and ending an hour earlier, etc. But I figure there's no way everyone would agree to that, so it's easier if everyone just changes their clocks.
quote:
Moose, in Alaska, you can barbecue at midnight in the summer.
Yeah, but if you want to barbecue in November you have to wait until February. No sale.
 
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
Actually I've heard the argument about school, in that we don't want school kids waiting at school bus stops in the morning while it's still dark.

Oh, and my husband's biggest objection? He works a 24 hour shift,so if he's working on the day we move the clocks back he has to work a 25th hour that is unpaid.

[ March 11, 2004, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: Belle ]
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
People barbecue in November? Since when?
 
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
 
I live in SoCal, Goat (you know -- home of the Shindae). We barbecue year-round.
 
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
 
The more I learn about you people, the stranger you get...
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Please - The mere act of cooking outside on a grill is not "barbecuing," it's "cooking out." Barbecuing involves basting meat with a special sauce and cooking it slowly. Sheesh! [Smile]
 
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
 
Not in SoCal.
 
Posted by Dragon (Member # 3670) on :
 
I can't wait to change the clocks... the clock in my car isn't adjustable so I've been having to remember that if I'm trying to get to an appointment at 5 o'clock and my clock says 5:45 I'm on time...
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
I just don't remember how to change the clock in my car, and I keep forgetting to look it up in the manual. But now daylight saving time is coming back around, so I won't have to worry about it anymore.
 
Posted by Ela (Member # 1365) on :
 
quote:
Oh, and my husband's biggest objection? He works a 24 hour shift,so if he's working on the day we move the clocks back he has to work a 25th hour that is unpaid.
But Belle, isn't the flip side that he works 23 hrs and gets paid for 24 if he is working when we move the clocks ahead?

(This is one reason why I am glad I am not working the night shift, btw.)
 


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