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Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
I have been getting extremely reasonable amounts of sleep. However I've still got dark circles under my eyes. This actually works to my favor this week since it makes the additional tinge of green from the aforementioned black eye barely noticable.

I've used Mary Kay's Lumineyes with good results in the past, but it seems to have stopped working. It may just be my tube of stuff is getting old, though you aren't supposed to apply a lot at any one time.

Any ideas of any sort?

AJ
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
Belt sander.
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
[ROFL]
 
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
 
Just carry a football. They'll think you're a player.
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
Perhaps you should try darkening the entire area around both eyes.

The circles under your eyes won't be so noticeable then.

[Smile]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
[Razz] Men!
 
Posted by Professor Tor Coolguy (Member # 6361) on :
 
spackle and a putty knife
 
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
 
Sleep.
 
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
 
Spraypaint?
 
Posted by Boon (Member # 4646) on :
 
Or you could try one of these...
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
I haven't a clue, AJ.

Here's a good review of Lumineyes with a pretty comprehensive breakdown of the causes of dark circles. It seems like this user had some effect, although not much. She was also able to get it cheaper on eBay. Even if it does not work as well as it used to for you, this might be helpful.

She states that Lumineyes is tinted yellow. I wonder how much of the effect is due to the yellow tinge cancelling out the complement color of purple in the shadows. Have you tried other (more yellowish) concealers?
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
:quietly notes that advice from men gets laughed at, razzed or ignored:
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
*notes to self that it is stupid advice that gets ignored, and that the maleness of the advisers is merely a confounding variable

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
When it involves applying tools or building materials to the sensitive under-eye area, sure.

[Edit: or what CT said]

[ March 23, 2004, 02:58 PM: Message edited by: rivka ]
 
Posted by skillery (Member # 6209) on :
 
Maybe it's sinus congestion. Try irrigating the sinuses with saline mist.
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
When CT said:

quote:
it is stupid advice that gets ignored, and that the maleness of the advisers is merely a confounding variable
I was shocked. [Eek!] Could she really be saying what I think she's saying? Not trusting my memory, I went hunting for a definition:

quote:
Confounding variables are two variables (explanatory or lurking variables) that are confounded when their effects on a response variable cannot be distinguished from each other.

[No No]

Yep - she said exactly what I thought she said - "stupidity" and "maleness" are variables whose effects cannot be distinguished from each other.

Shocked. Really. Speechless.

[Razz] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

[ March 23, 2004, 06:15 PM: Message edited by: sndrake ]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
Stephen, your inability to refute the claim might be considered proof by some.

Not by me, of course. O:)
 
Posted by jexx (Member # 3450) on :
 
What about wearing some sort of herbal mask? I seem to remember an herb tincture that helped with that, and I think it was fairly simple (like chammomile or lavender or something).

Jenny Gardener might know, she's all gardeny like that.
 
Posted by Audeo (Member # 5130) on :
 
Dark circles can also be caused by an iron deficiency, so you might consider taking an iron supplement if you don't already or eating foods that are rich in iron like red meat, and green vegetables (broccoli and spinach are the most common ones that come to mind).
 
Posted by Geomancer (Member # 6299) on :
 
quote:
*notes to self that it is stupid advice that gets ignored, and that the maleness of the advisers is merely a confounding variable

Perhaps the replacement of the word "maleness" with "masculinity" might make you sound less "male" yourself...(BTW, I'm male and I was pretty offended... [No No] of course, if you were kidding, then I'll forgive you... [Wink] )
 
Posted by Jon Boy (Member # 4284) on :
 
If there's one thing we don't do on Hatrack, it's joke around.
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
[ROFL]

The thing is I've been going to bed early and been doing pretty good about geting 8 hours of sleep per night for at least the last two weeks. And the circles are still there. My whole face actually feels tired at times like my eyes are sagging into them. It could be because of the sinus issues I've been having I guess.

AJ
 
Posted by Christy (Member # 4397) on :
 
This is going to sound insane, but I think I read that hemroid cream is good because of reducing swelling. [ROFL] I've also heard warm teabags: rosehip or green, cucumbers and potato slices. All are supposed to hydrate, reduce swelling and tighten skin. [Dont Know]

Here are a few more links:
eye care
puffy eyes

Edit: Sinus swelling, stress, salt-intake, potassium-deficiency, dehydration as well as lack of sleep are all causes for puffy eyes.

[ March 23, 2004, 05:21 PM: Message edited by: Christy ]
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
quote:
Stephen, your inability to refute the claim might be considered proof by some.
Doesn't work on agnostics. Believe me, it's been tried. [Wink]

quote:
Not by me, of course. O:)
That halo isn't fooling anyone, you know. Heck, I was tempted to get one on the "rent to own" plan, myself.

I just can't find one in my size. [Smile]
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
Well I'm going to go get a 30 minute massage this evening. If I am more stressed than I realize it will help even if it isn't directly involved with my face.

AJ
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Okay, just to be clear:

I was completely joking. It was sarcastic. Kind of like saying, "Well, I'm surprised to see Bob_Scopatz reply to this thread, as he never seems to post anymore."

I thought it was funny because it was obviously a stupid thing to say. (I'm hoping that Geomancer was just being dry-witted in response, and I'm pretty sure Stephen was -- but not sure enough. [Frown] )
 
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
 
If you've got it, flaunt it.

[ March 23, 2004, 06:12 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
quote:
I'm hoping that Geomancer was just being dry-witted in response, and I'm pretty sure Stephen was -- but not sure enough.
Not sure enough? Just when I thought I had the use of smilies down...

OK - I just went back and added a few smilies.

Are you sure now? [Smile]
 
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
 
Oh, thank goodness. [Smile]
 
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
 
That's twice in one day that I've been called for improper use of a halo. *examines it* It does need a bit of polishing . . .
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
quote:
I was completely joking. It was sarcastic. Kind of like saying, "Well, I'm surprised to see Bob_Scopatz reply to this thread, as he never seems to post anymore."

I thought it was funny because it was obviously a stupid thing to say.

FWIW, your intent was perfectly clear to me and I attempted to respond in kind. At the time, I thought I was being clear, too.

It's always a hazard when doing dry, tongue-in-cheek, ironic, or sarcastic humor. So much depends on shared context.
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
I find all the apologizing just as funny as the previous sarcastic posts that triggered it!

[Big Grin]

Got massage, but I'm wondering if it is sinuses. I need to order a Neti Pot.

AJ
 
Posted by Mrs.M (Member # 2943) on :
 
I've always had circles under my eyes - it's one of the curses of having sensitive, ultra-fair skin.

One of the ways to prevent them is to stay out of the sun or wear very strong sunscreen. I wear it under my makeup and my makeup has SPF in it, so I am well-covered.

I've had good results with herbal tea bags and English cucumbers. There are also gel eye masks that you can buy and stick in the fridge or freezer. They are great for puffiness.

The best products that I have come across are:

Aveda PureVital Moisture Eye Cream
http://www.aveda.com/products/product.asp?ITEM=21306&RN=20&SN=210&SCN=2130&DD=1

Erno Laszlo pHelitone Eye Treatment
https://www.ernolaszlo.com/flash.asp?
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
Mrs M do you have any idea how cool you are?!

I actually have an eye mask, maybe I should pull it out of the fridge. I haven't been in the sun all winter so it isn't a solar exposure thing at all. Today was the first day I spent any amount of time outside at all and the circles were already there.

I did effortlessly demolish a steak tonight of a size that had Steve taking notice. He thought I wouldn't finish it and have to take it for lunch tomorrow. Maybe that will help with the Iron, though I do take a one aday multi vitamin regularly.

AJ
 
Posted by sndrake (Member # 4941) on :
 
Just had another thought.

If all else fails...

[Cool]

Sunglasses!
 
Posted by Belle (Member # 2314) on :
 
You need a yellow tinted concealer to hide the dark circles, almost any makeup manufacturer will have some, just make sure it's yellow.

As for preventing and helping them, everyone has already given good advice. Cool masks are great, I've even done a quick ice pack compress on my eyes (usually to hide the fact that I've been crying)
 
Posted by BannaOj (Member # 3206) on :
 
I have yellow concealer (and green for red acne spots too) However, I don't wear makeup very often and I would like to get rid of the circles without wearing any if possible. I'm ok with putting creams etc under my eye though.

AJ
 
Posted by aka (Member # 139) on :
 
I have always had circles, as my mom and her mom before her did. I never realized it was something you could make go away. I put concealer on them sometimes but really it doesn't make a lot of difference that I can see. So mostly I skip it. When my grandmother was young, she was a flapper and eye circles were very in style. Her friends were jealous that she didn't have to put makeup under her eyes to get that look like they did. [Smile] I think I decided I like that particular fashion and will hold to it, bucking prevailing trends. [Smile]
 
Posted by Shan (Member # 4550) on :
 
Those bags can come in useful - the pity angle and all that. [Big Grin]

(CT and sndrake - I got it and I loved it!)
 


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