What I wouldn't give for one, universal, standards compliant browser.
I'm developing on OS X. I'm testing on pretty much everything.
Safari, Moz Firefox, I.E. 5 Mac, I.E. 5, 5.5, 6 WIN.
And I'm trying to do my layouts ENTIRELY in css, without tables.
Looks great in code.
EVERY FRIGGIN BROWSER RENDERS IT DIFFERENTLY.
I'd just love it if browser makers made something just a little more standards-compliant.
I feel dirty going back to tables for layout.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
isn't it fun? I have yet to make my website work in explorer.
Of course, it would help if I knew what I was doing. Sigh.
Posted by Annie (Member # 295) on :
Dreamweaver MX 2004 (which I'm learning right now) has a browser-check feature. It's really nice - I know exactly which parts of my code don't translate. Now, as soon as I can figure out how to actually fix them...
Posted by Rappin' Ronnie Reagan (Member # 5626) on :
Well, it does work in IE, just not Windows IE. And it's only the picture of Sacajawea that doesn't exactly line up. At least all the actual content works.
Safari and Firefox almost always render everything the same. It's IE that usually screws up. I HATE IE. If everyone would stop using it I would be much happier.
[ April 01, 2004, 02:31 AM: Message edited by: Rappin' Ronnie Reagan ]
Posted by Troubadour (Member # 83) on :
The trouble is with the use of the "height" property in Div IDs.
Although there's a trick to making 100% height work in Safari, I'd be damned if I could make it stick. But then my stylesheet was HUGE and there could've been any number of things interfering.
Plus the complexity of ensuring that fixed-width items don't break floated boxes, in conjunction with all the extra & inexplicable padding my current CMS adds in, just makes it a nightmare to try and make work.
It truly pains me to have to go from a layout that was handled entirely without tables to one entirely dependent on them.
I'd hoped to achieve the true & complete separation of style from content.
Posted by Troubadour (Member # 83) on :
Annie, your solution might be here Posted by Rappin' Ronnie Reagan (Member # 5626) on :
On a slightly related note, I've been browsing through the site css zen garden for several hours now, and a lot of the designs are simply beautiful. Makes me want to become a graphic artist.
Posted by Troubadour (Member # 83) on :
Great designs, yes.... amazing that the layout is done entirely using css.... and really one of the best showcases for css layout on the web.
Posted by fugu13 (Member # 2859) on :
I find the most effective web design strategy for me is usually not to do it all in CSS, but to do the basic separation using tables (and by putting the proper id's on the td's and using a td only where there's semantic separation its arguably even acceptable semantically; I've certainly seen all CSS pages that have less separation of form and content).
Of course, if I need the flexibility to rearrage the sections, its all CSS, but that usually isn't an issue.
I'd be much happier if IE would just get some CSS standards beyond the basic and hole-ridden stuff it has instead of being stuck in the dark ages. Usually its the only platform I have issues with.