[ April 30, 2004, 06:01 PM: Message edited by: Kama ]
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Whoo hooo! Long live Europa!
[ May 03, 2004, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: Telperion the Silver ]
Posted by Alexa (Member # 6285) on :
does this have to do with the 24 episode tonight I am giddy over? Or are you waiting for Terminator 4-23 to come out so you can finally see the long awaited T-24?
[ April 06, 2004, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: Alexa ]
Posted by jehovoid (Member # 2014) on :
Perhaps she's referring to days until the end of the month.
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15+10
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I think Kama's user interface might be experiencing technical difficulties.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Wir betreten feuertrunken, Himmlische dein Heiligtum. Deine Zauber binden wieder, Was die Mode streng geteilt; Alle Menschen werden Brueder, Wo dein sanfter Fluegel weilt.
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
'morgen, Kama. I see you're feeling good today ! Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Long live Ode to Joy!
*sings the greatest piece of music to himself too*
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Another hint, though not as direct as the previous two:
Mein ganzes Leben hab' ich in der halben Stadt gelebt, Was sag ich jetzt, wo ihr mir auch die andre Hälfte gebt? Jetzt steh' ich hier und meine Augen sehen sich nicht satt, an diesen Bildern, Freiheit, endlich Freiheit über meiner Stadt!
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
22 days.
The family is growing.
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People directly influenced:
Kama Tzadik Lissande Tristan Jebus Anna Amira Corwin
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Why are there only 12 stars?
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
The 12 stars were chosed as twelve is the symbol of perfection: there were 12 apostles, 12 hours in the day, 12 hours in the night, 12 months of the year, 12 signs of the zodiac. The colours, that's another story. Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
So what's the story behind the colours?
Posted by Richard Berg (Member # 133) on :
A child is due in Berlin?
Posted by Xavier (Member # 405) on :
check out the ad at the bottom. its for a hat display rack .
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
What's so nice about Athens?
Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
Poland and the Czech Republic joining the European Union?
I know five of those 8 people are in Europe. Not sure about the other 3.
And isn't the Ode to Joy the anthem of the European Union? I have to say they have the most kickass anthem of anyone anywhere.
[ April 11, 2004, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: ak ]
Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
Are there 15 countries currently in the EU and 10 more slated to join?
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Yay.
*hands Anne Kate her trophy*
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Member states:
Belgium Denmark Germany Greece Spain France Ireland Italy Luxembourg The Netherlands Austria Portugal Finland Sweden United Kingdom
New Member States:
Poland Czech Republic Slovakia Lithuania Latvia Estonia Slovenia Hungary Cyprus Malta
Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
<bows> Thanks! I'm honored! Posted by ak (Member # 90) on :
What is the second thing in German you quoted, and what does it mean? <curious>
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
In "Mein Berlin" Reinhard Mey sings about the moment when the wall falls. Suddenly, the people who have lived in half the city, are given the other half back.
We lived in a half of Europe.
"Was sag ich jetzt, wo ihr mir auch die andre Hälfte gebt"
What do I say now that you give me the other half?
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
WOW! Congrats, Kama!! Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
quote:"A day will come when all the nations of this continent, without losing their distinct qualities or their glorious individuality, will fuse together in a higher unity and form the European brotherhood. A day will come when there will be no other battlefields than those of the mind - open marketplaces for ideas. A day will come when bullets and bombs will be replaced by votes".
Victor Hugo
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Viva Europa ! L'union fait la force !
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Edit: Forget it. The stupid google ad keeps changing. ::shakes fist::
Hi kama. Come chat before I go to bed.
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Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
All it had to do is see your screen name and it knew.
*slaps knee*
[Edit: About gorillas.]
[Edit 2: Which don't exist anymore.]
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Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
huh?
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Posted by Tzadik (Member # 5825) on :
a dream of generations come true Isn't that great, Kama Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Yup.
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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
So, Kama -- are there really any personal benefits (for you) to your country becoming part of the EU? I mean, how does it affect, or not affect, common, everyday people in Poland?
Farmgirl
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
This is a difficult question, Farmgirl. The thing is, the short-term effects may not be all that wonderful. There is no way to boost our economy quickly enough to make it more competetive. At the same time, we will have to open our market to the European products, which may cause a threat to Polish enterprises. As it is mainly a farming country, farmers are the ones most concerned - and they have reasons to worry, especially that we have not negotiated the conditions we wanted with respect to farming aid.
However, the cost of staying away would quite probably be far greater. I trust that with time, the Polish people will discover many benefits of the accession, including the more competetive market, higher wages and greater opportunities of education and career, both within and outside of Poland.
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As for myself, ask me again in a couple of months.
11 days.
Posted by Tzadik (Member # 5825) on :
quote:So, Kama -- are there really any personal benefits (for you) to your country becoming part of the EU? I mean, how does it affect, or not affect, common, everyday people in Poland?
Framgirl, as I see it, the enlargement of EU by 10 new coutries finaly ends the division of Europe for Western (read democratic) and Central/Eastern (read former communist. Yes, joining EU is not all honey, there be tears etc, but in large picture, looking down on next generation(s) it's inevitable, that Poland, Czech and Slovak Republics etc. join EU. That's the only way to go. I personally have many issues with EU, but I voted yes when asked if Slovakia (my homeland) should join.
For me, the significance of All these central European countries joining EU is big. We are "returning" where we should have been right after WWII. It's Big for us all!!!
And as well as Kama, I could tell you more about the direct impact in several months.
tzadik
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Anna, you'll run out of smilies before the date.
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I know.
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I guess I'm going to count as Shadocks do and say that = Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
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Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
So will Poland, then, be converting to the common Euro dollars monetary system with joining the EU? Or is that a separate issue?
Farmgirl
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
It's a separate issue. Great Britain still functions with its own money, for exemple.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
We still need to adjust out economy to the EU standards before this can be done.
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
If you want to. I mean, a lot of countries haven't taken the Euro, so I guess there will be a referundum for it in Poland too.
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yup.
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My mistake Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
No, you got it right. But that was yesterday. Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
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Oh, in case you don't know, we are accessing the EU in order to prey on Sweden's social benefits.
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Kama,
bendzie duzse oslavy v Polske jutrom? I know, my non-existen polish sucks, good try though Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
oslavy?
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celebration
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Ano, bedzie Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
less than 2 hours
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Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
It's your time to
Have fun in there, and hope to join you soon. Posted by Tristan (Member # 1670) on :
I hope you will like it here.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Yay for Romania and Bulgaria, who are next on the list Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
Congratulations.
I have to confess, I'm a bit suprised by your unmitigated enthusiasm. I had thought many people in most of the countries joining the EU were hostile to amibivalent about it. Didn't know people were so gung ho for it. Posted by Ryuko (Member # 5125) on :
Go EU!!
Posted by cochick (Member # 6167) on :
Welcome Kama et al.
Say no to the Euro! Its just an excuse to put prices up.
Posted by =D- (Member # 5886) on :
What are Shadocks?
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Shadocks are an French anime, stupid little characters very colored who always pump (I pump so I am) and have only four cases in the brain, that's why they count in base 4.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
quote:I had thought many people in most of the countries joining the EU were hostile to amibivalent about it.
Uh. Dear. All the countries had referenda(ums?). We wouldn't have joined if most people were hostile or ambivalent.
We are happy, because in the long run, the choice was either the West, or the East. We "chose" the East once already. Didn't help us too much.
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
It is a sad, sad day for all of the real europeans. The scum has been let into the party. Never can we say again, "at least Estonia isn't here".
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
jebus202, you ARE joking, right ? Even if you are, it's really not funny...
Posted by vwiggin (Member # 926) on :
Finally, the European hatred for Americans can now be organized and consolidated.
Congratulations! Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
quote:jebus202, you ARE joking, right ? Even if you are, it's really not funny...
No, I'm not joking, and no, it's not funny. This isn't a laughing matter.
The Slav people are inferior in everyway to the rest of beautiful Europe. Too bad the money lovers up top are blinded green.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Don't mind jebus, Corwin. He's just very upset cause I turned him down. Multiple times.
Posted by Corwin (Member # 5705) on :
jebus,
Kama, now I understand ! Posted by St. Yogi (Member # 5974) on :
Congratulations Posted by Dan_raven (Member # 3383) on :
Congradulations. Now you can have a EU gettogether easier (less hostile borders to cross.)
Cheers!
Whether its Polish Vodka or French Champagne or a good Irish Ale, Cheers!
Posted by Anna (Member # 2582) on :
Flemmish bier, as far as I'm concerned. MMM... Delicious !
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
::sigh:: Oh Kama, Kama, Kama. This isn't healthy.
quote:Kama Member Member # 3022
posted April 26, 2004 04:46 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marry me, jebus.
I understand rejection is hard, but lieing about your feelings to protect yourself will only lead to more pain. No one is blaming you for being so infatuated with me, you're one of many, you just have to stop bottling it all up.
::hugs Kama:
Feel better 'kay?
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
Why don't you post that rejection e-mail you got from me?
Posted by jebus202 (Member # 2524) on :
This is so sad.
When you're ready to tell the truth Kama, let me know.
Posted by Alexa (Member # 6285) on :
What is the benefit of the EU? I saw a special that was anit-Spain EU. The reporter said that Spain took as much money from the EU that London put into the EU. The reporter was very agitated that Spain's tomatoes were subsidized and then the Spaniards had the big tomato fight.
I am not familiar with that part of the world at all. What direction is money flowing with the 10 new countries in the EU and who all benefits and why?
I would like to hear some opinions here of people who live over there.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
The benefit is that of one strong economy, instead of plenty of weaker ones. The EU means free movement of goods and services, an open, competetive market.
Now, about the money-flow. Apart from other things (like the customs duty), EU's budget is financed from the member countries' fees. A very large percentage of this money is directed towards agriculture and structural funds. The money goes to the poorest areas of the EU. With the accession of 10 new countries, which are worse off economically than the older members, the money will have to be divided between more states. The poorer areas of "Old Europe", such as Spain, Portugal etc will not get as much as they used to. Then again, the 10 new countries will have to open up their markets for the EU products, and will not be allowed to favour their own products over European.
Posted by Dobbie (Member # 3881) on :
I think it might actually turn out to be one weak economy instead of pleny of weak ones.
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Posted by Ace of Spades (Member # 2256) on :
Some union. It's like the Teamsters, only some members have nuclear weapons.
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