Wow. I can't even imagine...
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
ouch! Makes me hurt just reading it.
No hospital nearby, but had the liquor bottle handy. Nothing like a little self-induced unconsciousness...
Farmgirl
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Holy, holy Valar....... Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Give that woman a medal!
Posted by Boon (Member # 4646) on :
YEOUCH!!!
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
You know how some mothers use the "I was in labor for 48 hours" guilt trip. That will be REALLY effective from this mother.
Posted by ludosti (Member # 1772) on :
Gives a whole new meaning to "having the baby at home" doesn't it? Posted by Eruve Nandiriel (Member # 5677) on :
wOW!
Reminds me of the story about the woman who refused to have a c-section because she didn't want a scar, and then the baby died. I think she was charged with murder later...
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Dude. It's...The AWESOME!
Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
An awesome story, and an amazing woman. Only thing I would worry about is the alcohol - how fast can it cross through the placenta, and how much would? How damaging is a one time use of alcohol this late in the pregnancy?
Posted by Book (Member # 5500) on :
Damn. I posted that same link about five minutes ago.
Time to clean house.
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
Yeah. I think you're getting too complacenta.
Posted by Synesthesia (Member # 4774) on :
OH THE PAIN OF IT ALL! Talk about brave!
Posted by gwan (Member # 6194) on :
DEAR ME GOODNESS.... can you imagine. Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
quote:You know how some mothers use the "I was in labor for 48 hours" guilt trip. That will be REALLY effective from this mother.
Yeah, forget the mother, I feel sorry for the kid. Whereas, for most of us, it's only hospitals and needles that make mothers reminisce about their child's birth, this kid will have to suffer an in-depth description everytime he slices a steak at dinner.
[ April 08, 2004, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
Danzig, in late pregnancy, many doctors recommend that women experiencing early contractions drink a glass of wine to help relax. Can actually stop contractions from becoming early labor.
Besides, the kid LIVED! What, you wanted the poor woman to self-cesarean WITHOUT the alcohol??? *runs screaming from thread*
Posted by Coccinelle (Member # 5832) on :
Wow! Talk about a mother's love!
Posted by Danzig (Member # 4704) on :
Not at all; I would have used more than three drinks had I been in that situation myself. Just wondering if it was harmless or an unfortunate necessity.
Posted by sarcasticmuppet (Member # 5035) on :
quote: You know how some mothers use the "I was in labor for 48 hours" guilt trip. That will be REALLY effective from this mother.
*whistles, remembering story after story of how my mom was in labor for three days before I was born*
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
You know when I talk about not having kids?
This is what I'm on about.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Danzig, I'm not sure, but I think the real damage done by alcohol is during the development of the fetus. I don't know if a strong, one-time dose would do any lasting damage. Effect the baby, yeah. Might even give him a bit of a "rough start". But I honestly don't know. Certainly an acceptable risk under the circumstances. Posted by Son_of_Priam (Member # 6411) on :
Man, my mother tells me the horror story of her c-section all the time, and how horrible it was to watch the doctors cut through her stomach. I should make her read that...
Posted by Anthro (Member # 6087) on :
Ugh. And ouch. Reminds me of that women who performed breast cancer surgery(successfully) on herself.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
Anthro: Now that is really weird. Where was the urgency there? If the cancer didn't kill her, infection from self-surgery surely might. What a way to save money.
Posted by Shigosei (Member # 3831) on :
She was at a base in Antarctica, and it was during the winter so no planes could land. She was the doctor for the base, so she had to do it herself. Apparently it was aggressive enough that it couldn't wait for summer.
Posted by Richard Berg (Member # 133) on :
Nobody reminded of the climber-arm-pocketknife story yet?
These people are way hardcore, it's true. But consider that until not that many years ago, ALL surgery was performed with liquor, a piece of wood to bite on, and four strong guys to hold you down.
Posted by beverly (Member # 6246) on :
I guess I can understand her doing the surgery under those circumstances. I hope she had good anesthetic!
About that hiker, I loved what Eric Snider had to say about it here .
quote: I am fairly certain there is nothing that could ever persuade me to break the bones in my wrist and cut my arm off with a pocketknife. I wouldn't even consider it an option. I would think, "Well, I guess I'm going to die here. I mean, what else am I going to do, CUT OFF MY OWN ARM?!?"
I think that is probably what would go through my mind too.
Posted by MaydayDesiax (Member # 5012) on :
That story was actually rather refreshing, since the last newsworthy C-section was about a woman refusing one because she didn't want scars.
Posted by aspectre (Member # 2222) on :
The sedation was accomplished using rubbing alcohol??? That's isopropanol, not the watered-down ethanol that people drink for recreation.
[ May 31, 2004, 06:23 PM: Message edited by: aspectre ]
Posted by Pixie (Member # 4043) on :
::covers her stomach protectively and grimaces:: There is no way I could do that. I'd pass out as soon as the knife touched my skin. Gosh... ::shudders:: I'm never... oh, ick!
::laughs:: All I'm going to say is that if I ever need one of those, I'd better be as close to unconscious as possible while still being awake enough to remember giving birth. ::fidgets uncomfortably:: I hate needles and knives.
Posted by CaySedai (Member # 6459) on :
I noticed that she had to do this because her husband was out drinking at a cantina... so unfair. Not only is he not around to help, he's in a place with the "good" alcohol while she has to drink rubbing alcohol. Echhh.
I knew someone who had a c-section without anesthesia - but that was in a hospital. (Small hospital, she gave birth on a weekend and no anesthesiologist on duty at the time.) I can't imagine doing that to myself under unsanitary conditions.
I also notice she had her tubes tied to prevent a recurrance ... very smart.
Posted by Ralphie (Member # 1565) on :
quote:These people are way hardcore, it's true. But consider that until not that many years ago, ALL surgery was performed with liquor, a piece of wood to bite on, and four strong guys to hold you down.
Hot!
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
She still has my vote for the toughest human being ever.
I can't even imagine a hypothetical that would top this. The guy who cut his arm off to free himself the boulder doesn't even come close, although that's way tougher than I'm likely to be.
Dagonee
Posted by Bob the Lawyer (Member # 3278) on :
You know, he did hack off his arm with a swiss army knife, climb back down the cliff and then hike back toward civilization. I'd say that's pretty close to gutting yourself with a kitchen knife to deliver your baby.
And by close I mean they're both so far ahead of what I'd be able to do in the same situation that I can't possibly judge them. And I bet they look at the other and say, "Man... I could *never* do that."
Posted by Dagonee (Member # 5818) on :
I don't know - he was dead if he didn't do it, and his arm was already ruined. Plus, he didn't have to worry about stabbing his child in the head while he did it.
But you're right - they both can probably stop any injury bragging conversation dead in it's tracks.
Dagonee
Posted by romanylass (Member # 6306) on :
Wow, truly amazing.
Most of the damage from alcohol would be done in the first trimester, during brain develpopment. Even then, mama has to drink about 2 drinks a day, everyday for damage to occur.
Posted by rivka (Member # 4859) on :
There is NO safe amount of alcohol in the first trimester.
That said, an occasional drink is unlikely to be harmful, even in the first trimester. But it IS a risk.
There is virtually no risk (to an occasional drink) in the last few weeks, and certainly not that close to delivery.
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