There has been some issue as to who is whom on this board. Part of this confusion is because there are few of us openly gay men on the board and two of us are named "Karl". This isn't necessarily a critical issue, but I've already encountered more than one person attributing things to me that actually should be attributed to "Telperion the Silver", and I've been asked if I'm JohnKeats, too. This guide is to clear up any confusion.
NOTE: In the interest of not assuming too much, I'll leave it to the other homosexual men on the board to flesh out their own entries.
KarlEd: Large, homosexual, somewhat bearish man. Brownish hair with reddish highlights. Baltimore resident. Agnostic former-Mormon who served mission to Brazil. Currently in the early stages of what is hoped to be a long-term relationship with a super guy named "Chris". (Recently-about a year ago-ended a 9 year relationship with a nice but increasingly incompatible guy named "Douglas") Works in IT. Likes movies, books, science, technology, art, crafts, food, astronomy and has some interest in most other things. Can be found sporadically posting on a large variety of threads. Inexplicably disappears for weeks at a time but is always accessible via the email address in his profile.
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
(((KarlEd)))
*I* always knew you guuys were different people.
But don't feel bad... I used to have people confuse me with Belle and other Hatrack Southern Moms. I think I actually did a post something like this in which I explained our differences ("Belle is married to a Firefighter. I'm married to a hunk o' burning love" etc. )
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
I think the uniqueness of each of you will become only more apparent over time, but the Field Guide is a great idea.
More KarlEd is always a great idea.
Posted by Suneun (Member # 3247) on :
*takes out field goggles and sits under a tree*
"Oooh, look at the hair on that one!"
Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
* guilty party*
Thanks Karl and Karl. I'm real sorry for the mixup (in the other thread). Now I know the truth!
Looking forward to Telperion's self description.
Farmgirl
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Well, so far I like all the openly gay Hatrack men.
And I haven't confused KarlEd and Telperion, but then again... that's all I'm aware of.
I have to confess though - Im not sure who Caleb is. I *think* it's KarlEd... but I could be seriously wrong.
And Olivetta - I didn't even know you were a Southern belle Mom. But I like you! Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
Caleb is "JohnKeats" or "CalebVarns". For the record, "KarlEd" is only "KarlEd". I never post under any other name unless it's an obvious joke.
[ April 21, 2004, 02:56 PM: Message edited by: KarlEd ]
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
And neither Karl is to be confused with Mooselet, who is, so far, asexual.
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Hey! I just had a thought--my middle name is Carl. Does that mean that I'm bisexual?
Posted by imogen (Member # 5485) on :
Ok. Thanks. I might start calling Caleb Karl just for kicks - but at least *I'll* know it's a joke.
And as for Frisco... Tsk! We all know Superstation is the asexual one.
Edit: In a good way. In that he's a baby. I just thought it was funny after Frisco's comment.
[ April 21, 2004, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: imogen ]
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
*raises hand*
guilty as charged. Telperion and KarlEd confusion.
Bad Jim.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*thwap* you should really know better.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
I should... I plead severe emotional distress.
YAY! I've finally been thwapped by Mack! Now if I can just get her to flip me off...
Hey Mack! are you JohnKeats?
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
I'm sure I'm not.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
KarlEd has a landmark that should be in the archives that I remember reading one of the first things when I got here. Telperion is the subject of "Ask a 27 year old male homosexual". Caleb participated in some gay marriage threads back in November.
Frisco, are you just really sexually repressed? Rhetorical, this thread isn't about you. I just think that remark about mooselet is unfunny. P.S. and I just saw some innuendo you made on the OSC side.
[ April 21, 2004, 11:18 AM: Message edited by: pooka ]
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
I'm pretty sure she's not, too. Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
still no bird? Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*scratches head*
It was unfunny? Others?
Karl and TAK: Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
Jim-Me, a bird from Mac is like an "I love you", meaning that it doesn't mean anything if you have to ask for it.
And for the record, I can't believe I'm the only gay male to post here so far. I mean, I put "gay" in the title and everything.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
Ah, so what you are saying is I have to be less obvious about my whingeing, groveling attempts at fishing for middle-fingers?
[ April 21, 2004, 11:36 AM: Message edited by: Jim-Me ]
Posted by Noemon (Member # 1115) on :
Well, Karl, there is some mesoappellative evidence that I'm bi, even if my behavior and conscious inclinations don't support it!
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 433) on :
I have an idea Jim.
Hobbes Posted by JohnKeats (Member # 1261) on :
Not a Karl or Carl in my name or within 200 yards of me. Last name is Varns, though, not VarnEs (honestly, does it *sound* like there's an E in there? Or do people just think about Varnes & Noble booksellers?).
I answer to Caleb, Keats and John. Usually in that order. I had a landmark thread @ 4,000 in which I decided to put the Keats screenname away for good, only to later pull it back out of the closet.
<buh-duhm ching>
Mostly because people had learned to start calling me Caleb again and this one had most of my posting history on it, even though 'Caleb Varns' registered first.
Mack only wishes see was me.
Conversely, FlyingCow does NOT wish for Mack to be me, even though the two of us made quite a team at the Trivial Pursuit Game of the Century, which makes up for about 1/3 of my Hatrack fame.
As far as the Field Guide goes, I generally defy description and am not quite ready to put myself down in 200 or fewer words. I'll give it some thought. Maybe.
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
I'm confused by the confusion. None of them sound alike. (or read alike, you know what I mean)
Posted by saxon75 (Member # 4589) on :
quote:And neither Karl is to be confused with Mooselet
If I recall correctly, Mooselet is not a Karl.
Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
Can I say, Caleb, that I'm glad you pulled the JK screenname out of retirement. Not that I minded the other one at all -- I just missed seeing JohnKeats on the board.
Posted by JohnKeats (Member # 1261) on :
You're welcome. I like it well enough. It lets me think I'm popular every time somebody says "j/k".
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
*pat pat*
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
Mooselet's legal name is Carl (his real name is Mooselet, of course), and when Mama was pregnant with Superstation her OB was Dr. John Keats. A pattern? A coincidence? Hmmm....
--Pop
[Edit to remove vague wording, and silly Jatraqueros (94% of them) would make note of such.]
[ April 21, 2004, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: Papa Moose ]
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Hey, pop, did you find that joke funny?
Posted by Papa Moose (Member # 1992) on :
Well, I didn't think it was particularly funny, but I wasn't offended.
Posted by mackillian (Member # 586) on :
Yeah, that's what I meant. Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
-=Who is this, how you say, Telperion?=-
Well, my real name is Karl J. Wolf. Live in Detroit, Mi. I'm a GWM, 6' tall, long blond hair, hazel eyes, thin/average build. Was raised Catholic and went to Catholic grade and high schools. Became agnostic around 18 (after I was Confirmed no less). Heroes are Carl Sagan, King Jr., Steven Hawkins, Abe Lincoln, and others. Studied at Alma College, Mi. A student of history, culture, philosophy, communications, and the fine arts (especially singing). Work a day job as a corporate security officer and then run off to play music and hang out in the Goth subculture. A self proclaimed Tolkien scholar and fanatic. Rocky Horror fan (seen it over 200 times and acted on stage 5 times). I usually post to Hatrack from about noon to 5pm. Lovin every minute of it.
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
I'm really really confused now. I don't get it. So then Gay people are supposed to post here? ~.~;; Well I guess I just let everyone know that I'm 17, straight, a very pretty girl, and I've got brown curly hair. Its not like anyone cares, but I just felt like saying it... Posted by Farmgirl (Member # 5567) on :
I think that is what originally confused me -- Telperion at one point was posting in some thread, and someone, in their reply to him, said something like, Well, Karl....etc and called him by name.
Thusly, I thought it was the same person as KarlEd (although I guess I wasn't absolutely sure at that point that his real name was Karl).
Whenever people start using someone's IRL name in a thread, it can sometimes be confusing to those who haven't met them yet or got it all figured out.
Things will be much better after Chicago -- put more names with faces.
Farmgirl
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
Welcome to Hatrack, Altįriėl of Dorthonion.
I think that there was just some confusion as to who was who, now that Hatrack is getting bigger and bigger. It's fine to post wherever you want, regardless of gender/race/sexual preference/political persuasion/religious status or whatever.
I'll bump the latest FAQ, just in case it could be of some use. Meanwhile, I hope you stick around and let us get to know you.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
In case you are really new, while the 27 year old homosexual thread is hosted by Telperion, it was started by beverly who is not any sort of gay male as far as I am aware.
Posted by Jenny Gardener (Member # 903) on :
Frisco's probably just not had much attention, pooka. That, or Spring is making him feel frisky.
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
Why would what Frisco posted be offensive, pooka?
Posted by Olivetta (Member # 6456) on :
I just want to say that I thoroughly approve of the word 'frisky'.
*frisks*
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
Ok, thanks for the welcome. I am rather new, as many have noticed, so I hope I get to make lots of friends here .
[ April 21, 2004, 02:27 PM: Message edited by: Altįriėl of Dorthonion ]
Posted by ClaudiaTherese (Member # 923) on :
*whistles at Olivia
Glad to hear it, A of D. (Is there a story behind your name?)
[ April 21, 2004, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: ClaudiaTherese ]
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
Knowing that Mooselet's legal name is "Carl", I don't think there was anything out of line at all about Frisco's joke.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I didn't realize that. I guess I'm not "with it" enough to appreciate Frisco's sense of humor. P.S. I didn't say I was offended, I said it was unfunny. Why are you offended by me saying it was unfunny?
Hey Frisco --l--. Ah, now I feel better.
[ April 21, 2004, 02:47 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
<--Also likes the word "frisky".
Hi, A of D! Anyone can post here. I was just trying to be cute about clearing up the issue that I am not, in fact, either T the S, or JohnKeats/CalebVarns, who are also gay men and one is named "Karl".
[ April 21, 2004, 02:56 PM: Message edited by: KarlEd ]
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
Pooka, who's offended? Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
Psst. KarlEd -- there's no e in Varns. See JK's post above.
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
"e"? what "e"? Posted by Zalmoxis (Member # 2327) on :
Sorry. My mistake. It must have been a phantom e.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I figured that if remarking on something indicates offense, the people who said I was offended must feel offended. Sorry for the distraction from the thread. So does that mean I can't name my garage band "frisky Frisco"?
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
Pooka, I'm offended that you would think that the people who said you were offended must feel ofefnded, because of a remark that indicated offense.
Highly offended. To tears, even. Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
I would like to state, for the record, that I don't know whether Frisco is gay or not.
P.S. I would wink, but I really don't know. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Oh darn. Too bad the screen name "digging_holes" is taken.
[ April 21, 2004, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: pooka ]
Posted by JohnKeats (Member # 1261) on :
Not possible. If Frisco was gay he couldn't have been able to resist coming on to me. And unless he's just really bad at it and I haven't noticed, that hasn't happened.
Posted by Da_Goat (Member # 5529) on :
Or what if he's so subtle at it that you haven't noticed consciously?
[ April 21, 2004, 04:23 PM: Message edited by: Da_Goat ]
Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
I can back up Caleb's statement about Frisco. If Caleb had admitted he was gay to me when we were hanging out in person, I woulda been all over him like a cheap suit.
Ah well, two ships passing in the night and all...
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
Actually, if Frisco were gay I'd have come on to him!
[ April 21, 2004, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: KarlEd ]
Posted by Storm Saxon (Member # 3101) on :
I can just imagine Frisco wondering why, if he's known to not be gay, more women haven't had the kind of response to his charms the men have had.
'Frisco is heterosexual? I'm there!'
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
oh, come on, you didn't need that space!
Posted by Frisco (Member # 3765) on :
Crikey! I've unwittingly hijacked another thread!
I'm flattered.
The guys have it right, though. If I were gay, I'd have been all over Karl and Caleb like white on rice.
And now that you mention it, Stormy, I am kinda curious. I think the ladies must just be shy.
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pooka, you're easily the most easily offended person on the forum. Maybe you should just skip over all my posts, because I can't claim to be one of the most sensitive. And not to spoil your armchair psychologist career, but not everyone who talks openly of sex is repressed. My post on the other side just happens to be the Best. Edit. Ever. Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
Slash is Gay?
If only I had known when he was here...
edit: and I'm even more saddened to never have been eaten..
[ April 21, 2004, 04:54 PM: Message edited by: Jim-Me ]
Posted by JohnKeats (Member # 1261) on :
Slash eats newbies a lot less often these days now that we have the Burninator.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
*giggles*
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
quote: pooka, you're easily the most easily offended person on the forum
You know, there was a time I would have agreed with you. Until that explanation of ... I think it was your "how to evade a hug" stick people cartoon that some folks thought was a depiction of third base at gunpoint. And the spiracles. Posted by aka (Member # 139) on :
Wow, Slash is gay? That's going to be big news to his wife. Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
Kudos to the Burninator... Posted by Slash the Berzerker (Member # 556) on :
I'm not gay.
But Caleb is just that darn enticing.
Posted by StallingCow (Member # 6401) on :
When he's awake, of course... which wasn't that often, if I remember.
And, yes, Caleb, I do find it a good thing that mack is not you. It would have made this past weekend far more interesting than expected... Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
Ah! thanks for the clarification...
<hides in shame>
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
I really don't get it... I think that people who are gay should say WHY they're gay, that way, people can climb on their skin, walk around in it, and understand them.
Posted by pooka (Member # 5003) on :
Be prepared to be asked why you are not gay, Al.
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
^.^ Thats a good point...
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
What I want to know is, what about the SOUTH American Field Guide to Hatrack Gay Men, and the AFRICAN Field Guide to Hatrack Gay Men, and...
Posted by lcarus (Member # 4395) on :
Gosh, Jim-Me. I'm not even sure if I should post that in the OOC thread.
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
Well, since it was decidedly *in context* in it's humorous and racy connotations, I would think it doesn't go there... but I could be wrong Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
Celia, did you catch me before the edit? (Or were you referring to something else? )
Posted by celia60 (Member # 2039) on :
Dude, I totally saw it before the edit, laughed, almost out-of-contexted it, and then laughed some more.
Posted by Kama (Member # 3022) on :
quote:My post on the other side just happens to be the Best. Edit. Ever.
<-- glad I could help
Posted by Sal (Member # 3758) on :
I'm not sure whether I should approve of this constant referral to (the anomalies on ?) Frisco's "other side".
[ April 22, 2004, 11:49 AM: Message edited by: Sal ]
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
Too funny! You guys rock.
Posted by ssywak (Member # 807) on :
Slash and Caleb were hanging out in prison?
quote:If Caleb had admitted he was gay to me when we were hanging out in person, I woulda been all over him like a cheap suit.
Oh, sorry. My bad.
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
^.^;;; I wonder if you had known...
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
quote: What I want to know is, what about the SOUTH American Field Guide to Hatrack Gay Men, and the AFRICAN Field Guide to Hatrack Gay Men, and...
I don't think we've had any confirmed sightings yet. Anyone?
Posted by JohnKeats (Member # 1261) on :
That prison video was NEVER supposed to go into publication. I tried to tell Slash that we should get that in writing, but NOOOOO...
Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
Prison... person... it's all the same with Slash...
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
Oh yeah.
Anyway, I don't think race is really something that people should worry about, if you're a gay man in hatrack, you're a gay man in hatrack.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
A of D,
It was a joke.
E
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
glad to know that.
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
I picked South America as an opposite of sorts to North America by virtue of north-south, rather than along racial lines. And Africa popped into my head, but in an earlier version, I used Antarctician. Guess I should have stuck with that.
Did anyone else not get this as a joke? Sorry if I offended anyone.
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
I got it.
Oooo.. come to me my latin lover! Posted by Jim-Me (Member # 6426) on :
I rather thought the whole thread was mostly humorous...
Posted by Telperion the Silver (Member # 6074) on :
*Latin as in Roman*
Ooooo, Maximus!
Posted by Elizabeth (Member # 5218) on :
ha ha ha
Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
i wasn't offended, afterall, I'm not from any of those races, Im not even gay, hell I'm not even a man... I'm actually a 17 year old straight Mexican chique.
Posted by KarlEd (Member # 571) on :
Yeah, I got it as a joke and was playfulling prompting any possible South American or African gay male hatrackers to fess up.
By the way, I also took SA and Africa as geographical references that didn't necessarily have anything to do with race. Even "North American" could be pretty much anyone. Heck, Mexico is in North America, for heaven's sake. Posted by Altįriėl of Dorthonion (Member # 6473) on :
I know, what I don't like is that most people don't take it that way, exept geographically. We're more American than American hemselves because weve got native blood in our veins and not just european. The best of both worlds!
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I think I actually did a post something like this in which I explained our differences ("Belle is married to a Firefighter. I'm married to a hunk o' burning love" etc. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Anyone can post here. I was just trying to be cute about clearing up the issue that I am not, in fact, either T the S, or JohnKeats/CalebVarns, who are also gay men and one is named "Karl".![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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